Hello, its me again, im making a new map, but first take a look to SnowTorn Oasis

https://mega.co.nz/#!nwlEVYrY!7xa3LYJtOB-wYzm5EN_aWhXCHtP7kPEUxVqowB4i37s


Now lets show Trade Center

Pics

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i will be using H3 tagset from zteams
Now that i have time maybe i will release 3-4 maps

still needs scenery, this maybe wont be the final bsp

Any sugestions or positive critics are acepted on both maps, and like always let thanks for reading



Edited by EmmanuelCD on Jun 8, 2015 at 08:46 PM

Looks so square

use 007:goldeneye tagset
"DMT-Goldeneye"

but cities takes dozens of years to build e.e

Add stairs bridges and stuff done.

If there're interiors then I'll probably enjoy this... Mainly to avoid snipers camping on the tallest spot :S

Looks like a Halo 1 map.

Might want to re-think the name. Otherwise it has a nice 90'ish "true lies" feel to it.

And you might want to call it something else, too, while you're at it.

The World Trade Center site doesn't look anything like the layout you got, for starters...

Here's what it does kind of look like:

Looks so Halo 1

Why does NY look so busy and crap? Where are the parks and zoo's?

No wonder it's one of the worst rated countries for good manners.

That's Central Park you're thinking of.


(The WTC site is around the top of the photo)

Ohhh. Makes sense.

Because it is busy? And it is crap? I lived there for a decade.

its ok, i will change the name, i forgot that the name can offend some poeple.

i was gonig to post some pic of the map but tinypic doesnt seem to cooperate.

its goning to have more interiors, scenery and bridges, and now the top of some buildings can be reached

Reminds me of BioHalo

I made you a city map odst themed since you told me you havent seen one in a while, but it gave me errors when compiling and with CE3 and a new project haven't been able to fix it :(

Den send it to me you hot latino.

Me back!!! sorry, i want to do that

some pics of my actual progress in the map

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maybe in saturday it will be finished

Please consider including some pictures of this to next time. People like to see how it looks like before they download it.

sorry the thing is that a made a thread oldier than your acount, but if you want to see it take a look

http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=48263

To be honest I'm actually kinda impressed. Just use a new road texture and the buildings themselves could look more complex.

I think it looks ok, minus the road texture, but the weird thing for me is that these buildings are just ridiculously small to-scale. Have you ever been to a big city?

These buildings are crazy tiny; a real skyscraper (or any building higher than 5 or 6 stories) can be an entire city block on one side. We're talking about 100 square feet for the base, and about 400-700 feet tall. 1 story = ~10 feet, usually.

This map so far reminds me of playing GTA Vice City... On the lowest possible graphics settings possible.

I hope those stair cases are usable!

Does anyone else feel reminded of this? http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=3527

Things to do:

1) Higher resolution bitmaps, especially the road. Make a single bitmap, high res, for the strips, and have the cement (is it called this way? IDK) be a detail map

2) Bump maps. BUMP MAPS and specular maps, everywhere; this is so flat I could slide on it with my knees. Use very, very soft specular for the road (you could add a little rain and puddles with heavy reflections, see here)



and more pronounced on glasses and buildings. I know reference pic come from Unreal Engine, but a similar effect can be achieved in Halo, and it would be a lot less expensive if you used pre-rendered cube maps. I think, though, that you would need very high-res cubemaps as well, since they are going to be rendered on very big surfaces.

I think especially the wood floors would look a lot better if you do both these things.
A good reference could be Reflection, from Reach

Also, you should avoid so "squarey" looks

all the more if you are already using a squarey-looking bitmap, like the panels you are using.
Also; give each building its sort of unique-look. The general feeling is like you made a single building with a bunch of boxes, then you copypasted it everywhere. A similar feeling is for each and every feature of your map, with the sole exception of the wooden ladder, which I somewhat like.

For example, look at the textures here, in the building on the right



Couldn't you add there 2 big monitors? Couldn't you change the textures into something different and add more detail on the entrance? Couldn't you make it look less like an armory and more like a true building, with smoothed curves and all? A good reference pic, for that one, may be this



all in all, this map isn't bad. The idea is there, the BSP is working. Thing is; you need to make it alive, and it's going to take a whole lot of work; the result, however, will be worth the time you'd spend on it. Especially considering that it would be pointless to have good-looking ZTeams weapons, vehicles and bipeds in a poor scenario. You can do much better that this.
Edited by rododoonceagain on Jun 20, 2015 at 06:16 AM

rododoonceagain how it going with your maps and tags?
Edited by pablolinkone on Jun 20, 2015 at 07:17 AM

Tags are pretty much done. I have perfectly working marines and stuff; as for now I'm retexturing the forerunner beacon (the one you find in a30) with CEA bitmaps to put it in a Firefight map. It is useless to say that, even as unfinished as it is, it is incredibly sexy. CEA bitmaps are very good indeed.

I'm not saying in any way your map is bad. I'm saying it has a lot of potential to both look and play good (plenty of room, you can make a good-looking bsp without going crazy with the natural environments which is, IMHO, the very weak spot of Halo CE, you can drive vehicles and so forth), but it will take a whole lot of work to bring it all out.

About point 2: GTA V may be a good reference. We both know that it isn't going to look anywhere as good as it; still, you can make a great map nonetheless keeping it as your ideal aim.

About the cube maps: keep in mind that ZTeam provided you with an incredible amount of cube maps and detail maps (in tags\zteam\shared\bitmaps). They look incredibly good, you should check them out.

About the cylinder building, I'm unsure whether you're joking or not. But, if you look at a city, there's variety in the look of the buildings; a hotel doesn't look as a bank, which doesn't look as a supermarket or a night club.

Still, cylinder building wouldn't even be a bad idea, if well done. Look at Boston.

im back, maybe nobody cares byt still i will post some pics

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Almost done...

It's getting there...and the cylindrical towers are a start. Aside for the roads, something else I would look into is to use different textures for the sides of each building (i.e. don't use the same two glass panels and white concrete tiles for all of your skyscrapers). It's important to make your map look just as awesome from far away as it does when you're zooming into the details.

It's really unnatural to think that an entire city was constructed by one designer, and that one designer decided to make everything shaped differently but looking similarly... (and of course, you don't want clones of the same tower all over your map, so what does that leave you?)
Edited by renegade343 on Jun 24, 2015 at 04:15 PM

kind of reminds me of biohalo

;)

Well, maybe a have a last review to the bsp, i must have done for tonight, so any other changes please tell me,
Sparky, i think its better a fog volumen up in the buildings, let me see want i can do