Quote: --- Original message by: Rododo
Those marines are trying really hard to piss me off =| there are no particular reasons for mushballing like that

https://i.imgur.com/Uoytu2Z.jpg

Now, if I rig a right arm on the right arm's bones... well, that's what I am supposed to do, am I not? Or that's something I am missing?

Quote: --- Original message by: Rododo

Well, the marine was feeling alone, so I provided him a wife. Unnamed bumblebee pilot, don't be shy, come here

https://i.imgur.com/hYbiCSZ.jpg

Now, here you have a step-by-step tutorial showing HOW YOU SCREW UP A MODEL WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING WHY
What I did with the marine:

1) Exported in amf with adjutant.
2) Opened it with the script generated by Adjutant, default settings applied. Rigging is preserved, that's worth saying.
3) Deleted the old bones/markers and deleted the old "skin" modifier
4) Imported stock marine bones and markers.
5) Adjusted the marine bones to fit the body of the new model, edited envelopes, and checked the hierarchy stuff to be where it should be (everything linked to bip01 pelvis, markers attached to the right bones yadda yadda yadda). Exported in JMS with TheGhost's script (the one that preserves rigging), only error popped up was the "vertixes rigged to more than one bone".
6) tool model "characters\marine reach". It compiled fine, no errors popped up.
7) Changed the "node list checksum" so that it matched the node list checksum of the model-animation of the marine (from 3251 to -1623928023, in order to avoid the "OUT OF OBJECT: cannot draw marine" error)
8) Put it in a map with Sapien and saw this

What I did with the bumblebee pilot
1) Opened with GBX Model Importer. Rigging, UVW and all the stuff were preserved.
2) Deleted old "visor" bone so that it could use the "marine" model animation.
3) tool model "characters\pilot 2\". It compiled fine, no errors popped up.
4) Changed the "node list checksum" from 3251 to -1623928023 (the stock model had -1154900487)
5) Put it in a map with Sapien and saw this

It is also worth noting that both the models actually render well in 3DS Max with the marine animations, imported with the Halo Animation Importer script (or, at least, they still don't look good, but you can actually recognize a human shape moving there, and not just a bunch of deformed corpses), so I guess that, whatever went wrong, it is not a matter of "pure rigging".
Edited by Rododo on Dec 9, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Quote: --- Original message by: Rododo

Sorry, exactly HOW do I change my model according to the bones? Rotating bones is easy, rotating body parts, on the other hand, isn't.

I mean, the marine is in a position and I don't know how to change it (and, however, by taking a look at another, working marine model from Reach, it seems that the creator moved the bones as I did). Could you be more clear? Keep in mind that you are dealing with a total noob.
Edited by Rododo on Dec 9, 2014 at 02:16 PM

Quote: --- Original message by: Rododo
Ok, I eventually got it right. It is not well rigged at all (I still don't know how to rig properly, only thing I can do is editing envelopes by enlarging the circle thing at the edge of the bones, which is quite unpratical), but now you can recognize a human shape, moving in there. Thanks for the help, guys!

Quote: --- Original message by: Rododo
(I still don't know how to rig properly,

Quote: --- Original message by: Spiral

Oh no
http://i.gyazo.com/e1cdb22ba224071df7651cbc6d09c24e.png
Why is this happening to me? I've been able to do this just fine before! All I did was import using the exact same maxscript that i've used before. Selected all the verts and welded by 0.01 like I normally do. Exported with my usual jms exporter. Compiled, no errors. Matched node checksum. Now BAM, as if I just started modding halo again. :(

Now I did upgrade my PC but that is probably a 99% chance that the new stuff is not the problem.
Here is what I did.
I upgraded to a new Hard drive. SSD. Same operating system.
Installed halo PC. (legitimate copy, happy I have one)
Updated Halo PC.
Installed Halo ce.
Manually updated to 1.09.
Installed HEK.
Installed OS.


I ran everything as admin (which fixed my issues when I was new at modding).
I gave me full permission to the scripts and folders.

This is weird. I have made many things in the past involving rigs:
http://i.imgur.com/omh5eBM.png
http://i.imgur.com/XQ63oqO.png
http://i.imgur.com/DdEAxYH.png
http://i.imgur.com/PSuW4ae.png
The majority of these once looked like the spartan up there.
Anyone have a solution? I'm pretty sure this has to do with some settings when running something.
And again, I have fixed this issue before. I have no idea what I did or why this is happening.

Oh and I downgraded from 3dsmax 2015 to 2014 because apparently the student license doesn't want a (version specific) program to be one more than one system...
Edited by Spiral on Dec 13, 2014 at 03:43 AM

Quote: --- Original message by: SOI_7
Anyway, there's an easy tool if you are using 3DS Max: in the Skin modifier, where it says "Select", check the "vertices" flag. Then, select the vertices you want to rig, scroll down to "Weight properties", select the "Weight tool" (The one with the wrench icon), and assign the desired weights selecting a number. Voilą!
Edited by SOI_7 on Dec 10, 2014 at 01:07 PM