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Yoda
Joined: Jan 30, 2011

Do or do not, there is no try


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 06:00 PM    Msg. 1 of 16       
A friend on the forum brought this to my attention, some idiot is uploading my tutorials and listing himself as the author.

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=6701
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=6715

I made these tutorials quite a while back and released them in my tutorial thread here on the forum:
http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=42693&start=1

and also on my youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZXCB5-qadk
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsYFcdY5bHyIEj38SFXPRgTCqItJMyLRi

and also on my moddb page:
http://www.moddb.com/members/ncc-1701/blogs

On top of the fact that this guy was stupid enough to take credit for someone elses work he also forgot to include part 3 of the character tutorial (he only added parts 1 and 2).

Has anyone else had this problem? Is this "Thefooler" person a member here on the forum? Anyone know him? Is there anything that can be done about stuff like this?


BKTiel
Joined: Mar 18, 2014

strong independent bird needs no cage


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 08:02 PM    Msg. 2 of 16       
Yes, and Dennis refuses to do anything about this kind of thing, unfortunately.


PRPatxi
Joined: Oct 30, 2010

Dennis, free me from this suffering


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 08:14 PM    Msg. 3 of 16       
Thefooler goes by the name of Joe55, I had some problems as well:

http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=35369


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 08:25 PM    Msg. 4 of 16       
Guess you could say...

you've been fooled.

I'll go kill myself now


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 08:53 PM    Msg. 5 of 16       
Quote: --- Original message by: BKTiel
Yes, and Dennis refuses to do anything about this kind of thing, unfortunately.
You are wrong in so many ways.


Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011

Dead.


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 08:57 PM    Msg. 6 of 16       
Quote: --- Original message by: Yoda
A friend on the forum brought this to my attention, some idiot is uploading my tutorials and listing himself as the author.

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=6701
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=6715

I made these tutorials quite a while back and released them in my tutorial thread here on the forum:
http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=42693&start=1

and also on my youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZXCB5-qadk
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsYFcdY5bHyIEj38SFXPRgTCqItJMyLRi

and also on my moddb page:
http://www.moddb.com/members/ncc-1701/blogs

On top of the fact that this guy was stupid enough to take credit for someone elses work he also forgot to include part 3 of the character tutorial (he only added parts 1 and 2).

Has anyone else had this problem? Is this "Thefooler" person a member here on the forum? Anyone know him? Is there anything that can be done about stuff like this?

Flag em.
Flag em all.


BKTiel
Joined: Mar 18, 2014

strong independent bird needs no cage


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 09:34 PM    Msg. 7 of 16       
Quote: --- Original message by: Dennis
Quote: --- Original message by: BKTiel
Yes, and Dennis refuses to do anything about this kind of thing, unfortunately.
You are wrong in so many ways.


Is that so?

First sentence:
Quote:
Once we place something into the file archive it will not be deleted without a court order. Period.


And it's not like it's something you haven't enforced or reminded us of numerous times over the lifetime of this website. Several leaks come to mind. As you yourself say in your QA:

Quote: --- Original message by: Dennis
There is no discussion, no argument, no plea that is going to change my mind because I have had it! I am not some teenage kid throwing a tantrum, I have been doing this stuff before most of you were even conceived and now it is time for you take responsibility for your actions and decisions. If the only way to get you to be more careful is by posting the unauthorized releases when uploaded to us then so be it. Because: I ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO BE THE GATEKEEPER FOR YOUR BAD JUDGMENT.


So no Dennis, it's not me who's wrong here (and only in one way, really), unless you've taken a complete 180 in what you will and will not do.

I rest my case.
Edited by BKTiel on Apr 7, 2014 at 09:41 PM


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 09:42 PM    Msg. 8 of 16       
There's a difference between a leak of something that has not been uploaded to the website in any way, shape, manner, or form, and releasing something that someone else has already released to the website. This was not an unauthorized release that came about because Yoda trusted assets to the wrong person, this was a a re-release of assets that had already been made available.

Tl;dr: You linked to a page of rules regarding leaks, and the files in questions are not leaks.
Edited by Echo77 on Apr 7, 2014 at 09:44 PM


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 09:47 PM    Msg. 9 of 16       
What Dennis is saying is not that he'll take it down, but probably pointing towards he can change author names (provided proof)


Yoda
Joined: Jan 30, 2011

Do or do not, there is no try


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 09:53 PM    Msg. 10 of 16       
The author has been changed (thanks Dennis).

In the long run I guess it doesn't really matter very much, it just really irks me when people take credit for something they didn't do.


BKTiel
Joined: Mar 18, 2014

strong independent bird needs no cage


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 09:57 PM    Msg. 11 of 16       
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
There's a difference between a leak of something that has not been uploaded to the website in any way, shape, manner, or form, and releasing something that someone else has already released to the website. This was not an unauthorized release, this was a a re-release.


And yet once again,
Quote: Once we place something into the file archive it will not be deleted without a court order. Period.


Get that? Period.

Re-releases have survived well enough; I recall Slayer saying in another thread that most tags uploaded nowadays are just old ones with a thing or two changed. Do you really think he cross-checks every new arrival with all the stuff in the archives, anyway? If you want to say it's different, take it up with Dennis. Maybe between the two of you a way can be found to creatively circumnavigate a policy that's been in visible effect for as long as I've lurked this site. I'd like to see this clown's stolen work deleted, but I don't see that happening without Dennis reneging on one of the standards he's set for himself and this site.

Changing the authors would certainly work, as Higuy pointed out.

e: Hrr. I guess the old boy decided to be charitable after all.
Edited by BKTiel on Apr 7, 2014 at 10:01 PM


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 10:04 PM    Msg. 12 of 16       
Quote: --- Original message by: BKTiel
Quote: Once we place something into the file archive it will not be deleted without a court order. Period.

Get that? Period.

Quote: it will not be deleted

Attributing a file to the proper author is not deleting the file. The entire basis of your initial comment was built off of a page of rules concerning an unrelated scenario.
Edited by Echo77 on Apr 7, 2014 at 10:07 PM


BKTiel
Joined: Mar 18, 2014

strong independent bird needs no cage


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 10:08 PM    Msg. 13 of 16       
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
Quote: --- Original message by: BKTiel
Quote: Once we place something into the file archive it will not be deleted without a court order. Period.

Get that? Period.

Quote: it will not be deleted

Attributing a file to the proper author is not deleting the file.


Interesting that you only point that out after Higuy and Dennis figured it :D

Nicedits

Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
The entire basis of your initial comment was built off of a page of rules concerning an unrelated scenario.
Edited by Echo77 on Apr 7, 2014 at 10:07 PM


Not at all. In practice he's applied this as a blanket policy, eg http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=41356

You can also just search anything he's said with 'leak' in it and tell me this is a man that seems friendly to the concept of removing or otherwise modifying things uploaded to his server. The entire basis of my argument here, if it could even be called such (more like motivation), is that Dennis is willing to renege on standards he's set for himself if it's situationally viable. I don't hold that against him; it's really inevitable when it comes to administration, I just really wish he'd stop pretending it wasn't the case and admit these things are really only guidelines.
Edited by BKTiel on Apr 7, 2014 at 10:15 PM
Edited by BKTiel on Apr 7, 2014 at 10:17 PM


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 10:26 PM    Msg. 14 of 16       
Quote: --- Original message by: BKTiel
I rest my case.
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You have no "case". Just because I don't do what you think I should do does not mean that I do nothing when there is a dispute over authorship. And let's be clear here in that you said "and Dennis refuses to do anything about this kind of thing," which is very clear in it's meaning and very wrong. (emphasis by me)

We do not delete files in the archive when someone disputes authorship. We never have and never will. We will remove them if they are found to be overlooked malware or with a court order. The issue of dispute of authorship has always been handled the same way. If I can definitively ascertain authorship it will be changed. If I can't then the author's name will be removed.

In this case the previously posted videos is a third party verification that the tutorials in question were incorrectly attributed and it was changed. In so many other situations it is a he said she said situation where I cannot verify who is the author so the file authorship will be removed.

Now as to why I require a court order. it is because only the copyright owner has legal precedence over something we host and since all fan made items cannot be copyrighted because the intellectual property they were created from are already copyrighted there are no legal grounds.
Edited by Dennis on Apr 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Apr 7, 2014 11:03 PM    Msg. 15 of 16       
if you dont like how dennis runs his site...


dont go on it.


rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009

I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)


Posted: Apr 8, 2014 12:58 AM    Msg. 16 of 16       
I would regardless see them as yoda's

 

 
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