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MyHogs
Joined: Feb 16, 2014


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 12:47 AM    Msg. 71 of 183       
Quote: --- Original message by: MEGASEAN2812
BUT I HAZ LEGIT COPY WHAT I DO.


Nothing you can do. Your legit copy will mean nothing, and you will be on the same level as those that do not have a legitimite copy.

You will not be able to host online games from within the actual game, you will not be able to join a server unless it is modded with a No CD Check modification, etc.

I'm really curious to see if this is going to break the installer as well, though.


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 12:47 AM    Msg. 72 of 183       
Or spam bs angel on tweeter.
also considering i focus mainly on sp mods at this point in time, i could care less about my serva hostin not to mention inferno is still doing 12D.
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Apr 4, 2014 at 12:49 AM
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Apr 4, 2014 at 12:49 AM


General_101
Joined: Dec 23, 2013

Apparently all I post is spam.


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 12:49 AM    Msg. 73 of 183       
Quote: --- Original message by: ZOBI3KING
We could either do A.Start a petition to 343i asking them to host or B.Make a mod that brings tons of attention to Halo CE (maybe go complete overhaul like Brutal Doom, idk)

Something that makes halo ce profitable would definitely work best in catching their attention. The mod itself will be difficult to do though considering the level current projects are at and even they can't satisfy everyone.


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 12:50 AM    Msg. 74 of 183       
Brb gonna go spam bs angel on twitter.


rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009

I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 12:53 AM    Msg. 75 of 183       
they do realize that there are gamespy servers that are still very populated right?


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 12:57 AM    Msg. 76 of 183       
Itz cuzz glu bought them. I hope someone glues glus mouth shut and burns there companys profits for this herecy. Also use hesh tegz #halocustomeditiononsteamplz if u go on tweeter.
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Apr 4, 2014 at 01:28 AM
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Apr 4, 2014 at 01:29 AM


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 01:59 AM    Msg. 77 of 183       
Im pretty sure the installer doesnt do an online check when you put in the cd key. Cant say for multiplayer though cuase I heard something about how you cant have 2 people be online with the same key


xnx
Joined: Feb 12, 2013

h2 marine anims or i detonate the vest


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 01:59 AM    Msg. 78 of 183       
*Initiate mass forum panic*


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 02:04 AM    Msg. 79 of 183       
Quote: --- Original message by: xnx
*Initiate mass forum panic*

Ms or 343 wont budge. There hidin something

I think.


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 02:20 AM    Msg. 80 of 183       
K. So really, all we have to do, is use direct ip and have all the dedicated servers not check cd keys? Is it possible to make some mod that makes it so the check is disabled? Which would help all the server joining stuff?


stunt_man
Joined: Sep 22, 2009

GMYF - Now hosting proper MLG gametypes!


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 02:26 AM    Msg. 81 of 183       
Quote: --- Original message by: General_101
Considering how the xbox one and halo is right now I doubt they care much. Add that to the fact that halo ce doesn't bring in a lot of money.


This is besides the point. I thought you were trying to produce reasons why it didn't matter if it was shut down? Not stating the obvious.

But, if we're going to talk about business, so be it. The way I see it, they have nothing to gain from letting the master server shut down. On the other hand, they can seize the opportunity and keep them running, gaining fans' respect in the process. This would be a relatively low expense, especially for Microsoft with all their server power.

I don't like to speculate, but if by some miracle the game got Steam support, they could make loads of money off a decade-old game that otherwise would never have continued selling.

Quote: --- Original message by: General_101
Minecraft has no public server list yet many servers manage to get players in. There is no logical reason why there can't be a place for servers to advertise their servers.


Minecraft also sold 9 million copies. More than 10,000 people play the game daily. Clearly, with that kind of population, the concept of having a place to swap server info makes sense. Also, Minecraft shipped in that state. It has always been expected of its players to use such methods to find servers. Halo shipped with a server browser, and should continue to have a server browser.

Quote: --- Original message by: General_101
All you lose is the people not willing to look it up in the end.


Yes, and what if that is 30% of players? What if it's 50%? At the time of writing, there are about 1000 players across various versions of the game, around the world. You really are indifferent to that kind of population decline? You call yourself a fan of this game? What fan of any game doesn't care about the loss of a key feature that will result in a potentially massive decline in active players?

Quote: --- Original message by: General_101
The last few major custom content projects even still active is cmt, lumoria, and project lawson. Other than that all you have to show here is a bunch of random projects that are never finished or imported tags from other halo games. Halo had great maps in the past but this is the present we are talking about.


CMT, Lumoria and Project Lawson are the culmination of years of progress that the community has made. Just because content isn't being produced at a pace fast enough for your standards doesn't mean it is worthless. And just because many beginners get horny and post their projects too early (and don't finish them) doesn't negate the quality of the more popular projects, or even the modding scene as a whole.

You lack respect for the individuals who have brought the game to the state it is in now - that state being, the most functional, most accessible, and most content-full state the game has been in since release.

Quote: --- Original message by: General_101
Doom is a classic game created by id software and not the end of times you seem to think I am saying.


Simply capitalizing the 'D' in 'doom' would have cleared that up.

Quote: --- Original message by: General_101
Look at the major forums for doom projects and you will see what I mean when it is very similar to these forums. Same people posting everyday, Projects never truly finished, and only a handful of gems worth playing that are still active.


What are you trying to get at? What point are you trying to make? Should Doom be shut down as well? I'm unfamiliar with that scene, but your point eludes me. Are you saying that Halo, like Doom, has a boring modding scene? That it's past its prime? Hanging on for dear life?

Quote: --- Original message by: General_101
You seem to be suffering from a classic case of nostalgia and fan boyism. Games come and go and with that you think too highly of 343.


I think very lowly of 343 and I don't expect anything. I can only hope they do something about it.

Sure, I'm nostalgic. I'm an adult, however, and don't let such sentiments cloud my logic when critically examining a blatantly ignorant response to a real ethical issue.

Everything I've written today was written objectively.

Fanboy-ism, as you say, implies that I have surrendered myself to the whims and decisions of the developers/producers of the game, and to the game itself, and that I am close-minded when it comes to other games/devs/producers.

In this case, you couldn't be more wrong. Halo is not the only game I play, nor am I a big fan of either Microsoft Game Studios or Gearbox.

And a game should not "go" until no one is playing it anymore.

Oh, please tell me more about how many of the active players are using pirated copies! So what! They wouldn't have sold those copies anyway. Piracy was never a major issue for Halo PC until recently. The way I see it, the more the merrier, and if it takes a bunch of South Americans to populate the servers, then I welcome them with open arms, not understanding a word of what they are saying. And giving them no quarter on the battlefield.

Quote: --- Original message by: General_101
You really think anyone cares about a game that brings little to no profit. If by modding community like none I have ever seen means one that insults each other for no reason then yes this is one of a kind.


What do you mean "anyone"? Do you mean anyone at 343i? Or do you mean the playerbase? Or do you mean potential new players?

If you mean 343i, then I suppose that no, I highly doubt anyone cares. Which is the issue here. They should care. Why? See my earlier post.

If you mean the playerbase, well I suspect that many of them either aren't interested or lack the brain capacity to understand what this will do to the active population of a game we all like to play. Hell, I had even stopped playing this game for years before I found out about SAPP's no-leading and HAC's bookmarks. People are adding functionality to the game, while the businessmen are removing it - the same businessmen that are losing Halo fans and ought to be doing something about it, instead of letting opportunities like these slip through their fingers.

If you mean potential new players, that's a bit unfair. In a time when PC games cost $60-$70 and nearly always have ridiculous DRM implementation and are lacking basic features like dedicated server support and modding tools, Halo CE with its plethora of user-created content, improved functionality and, let's not forget, the competitive multiplayer and myriad of custom dedicated servers could be an easy alternative for people looking to escape the exhausting milking of IP that has plagued the industry since the early 2000s.

It is simply my belief that it ain't over till it's over, and it's not over yet. With a small investment, the game can be kept up and running. I don't understand your justification of the closure of the master server.

Why should they let the game die? By not taking action, they can't seriously be expecting us to migrate to Xbox One for Halo 5. Even Microsoft and 343 aren't that stupid. Halo PC and Halo 5 cater to different markets and tastes.

Why should they let it live? Simply because not only are people still playing it, but people are still creating content, renting/running servers, playing competitively, and still trying to improve on its shortcomings a decade later. Not to mention that they can sell more copies if they release a digital copy on Steam (we can all dream).
Edited by stunt_man on Apr 4, 2014 at 02:31 AM


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 02:35 AM    Msg. 82 of 183       
343 and ms have remained very quiet about this. It seems like they are hiding something. So i wouldnt be suprised if a steam version does come.


Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011

Dead.


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 02:48 AM    Msg. 83 of 183       
Quote: --- Original message by: MEGASEAN2812
343 and ms have remained very quiet about this. It seems like they are hiding something. So i wouldnt be suprised if a steam version does come.

If there is a Steam version, I will have to buy it again.

Won't that be fun?


UnevenElefant5
Joined: May 3, 2008

its been fun yall, i'll never forget this site :')


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 04:18 AM    Msg. 84 of 183       
I can't imagine they'd charge more than $20 for it. Last time I saw it at Best Buy a few years ago it was on the shelf for $10. I'm sure everyone here can spare $20, or just do some extra chores if you can't.


Hobbet360
Joined: Jan 10, 2012

ProTools > ToolPro


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 04:44 AM    Msg. 85 of 183       
Am I the only one that is not worried?


UnevenElefant5
Joined: May 3, 2008

its been fun yall, i'll never forget this site :')


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 04:49 AM    Msg. 86 of 183       
No. Even if it turns out to be true (only been skimming the thread) I only stick around for the SP stuff. I moved on from MP a long time ago. It was fun when I could get together with a bunch of friends and play together, but a lot of the people I knew are gone. Pubbing on BG all snipers is not appealing to me.


DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013

{DM} [gamesmaster] if i can ill help maybe


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 05:22 AM    Msg. 87 of 183       
just use XFIRE for halo ce man it not hard to use

Dennis what your take on this?
Edited by DOOM899 on Apr 4, 2014 at 05:41 AM


PRPatxi
Joined: Oct 30, 2010

Dennis, free me from this suffering


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 06:19 AM    Msg. 88 of 183       
I'l come back to Xfire i guess.


DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013

{DM} [gamesmaster] if i can ill help maybe


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 06:34 AM    Msg. 89 of 183       
halo ce well not die
I well take a look at new ways to play mp online

and if you don't use XFIRE you can look at this
http://www.gameranger.com/support/network/
I well not let halo ce die


Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010

[Insert sarcastic comment here]


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 08:37 AM    Msg. 90 of 183       
If anybody can afford to host a master server, just ask Gamespy if it's possible to purchase the domain and redirect it to the new server.(Then there would be no effect on the end user)

That is, assuming Microsoft doesn't already have the same plan.(or a better plan)

(And assuming anybody's wealthy and willing to host a new master server. I'm unsure if those few wealthy old players still have enough nostalgia in them)


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 08:42 AM    Msg. 91 of 183       
Well i still kinda want my mp since it was kinda... a thing.


altis94
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

Join my Discord https://discord.gg/GDVEaRD


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 08:53 AM    Msg. 92 of 183       
This time they might be serious.


DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013

{DM} [gamesmaster] if i can ill help maybe


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 09:33 AM    Msg. 93 of 183       
Quote: --- Original message by: MEGASEAN2812
Well i still kinda want my mp since it was kinda... a thing.

Direct IP work's so all you need is a new browser so XFIRE is all I no of
and that link I put up ...Game Ranger something that may help for a new browser

and MEGASEAN2812 you can make maps or mods we can play them if there good tho.. and play them in a server

even if game spy did go down it not all bad new we got xfire so we can play server's
Edited by DOOM899 on Apr 4, 2014 at 09:34 AM


stunt_man
Joined: Sep 22, 2009

GMYF - Now hosting proper MLG gametypes!


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 09:36 AM    Msg. 94 of 183       
Would Xfire really work? I'm pretty sure it just parses Gamespy's server list, much as the old Gamespy Arcade client used to do. And can Xfire list servers from alternate versions of the game?


game user10
Joined: Dec 9, 2011

Who is the Overseer?


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 09:51 AM    Msg. 95 of 183       
Still hoping it's all just a sick april fools' joke.


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 10:00 AM    Msg. 96 of 183       
Would the no cd thing work to fix this? But then again wouldnt that brake os?


altis94
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

Join my Discord https://discord.gg/GDVEaRD


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 10:10 AM    Msg. 97 of 183       
SAPP can disable cd-key check, that's why all latinos use same cd-key and banning one of them bans them all.


DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013

{DM} [gamesmaster] if i can ill help maybe


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 10:19 AM    Msg. 98 of 183       
Quote: --- Original message by: game user10
Still hoping it's all just a sick april fools' joke.
yeah me two

we got 8 weeks to come up with something all I can think of is xfire

take a look at something http://www.gameranger.com/support/network/
this all that I can see that wood do

I got to go bed see ya


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 10:32 AM    Msg. 99 of 183       
Gameranger needs to support the game, and right now they dont.

@altis K. So from now on we cant be lazy and we gotta use sapp? XD
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Apr 4, 2014 at 10:35 AM


MyHogs
Joined: Feb 16, 2014


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 10:53 AM    Msg. 100 of 183       
Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor
April fools, this happened a year ago...


Yeah, you might be right. Now, excuse me while I go play Halo Trial...


Lyra_qt_fag
Joined: Jan 1, 2014

Too Much Lynx


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 11:46 AM    Msg. 101 of 183       
-cries forever-
I grew up on this game.
The idea of not being able to play when ever I want is....
Horrid...
It can't end like this D:


rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009

I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 12:15 PM    Msg. 102 of 183       
assemble the halo-vengers


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 12:21 PM    Msg. 103 of 183       
Quote: --- Original message by: Mootjuh
Maybe Halo 3 PC is born from the corpse of CE? We never know.

Halo 3 PC CE.

CE ad infinitum.
Edited by Echo77 on Apr 4, 2014 at 12:21 PM


rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009

I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 12:41 PM    Msg. 104 of 183       
halo 3 pc ce deluxe special edition 2 barbeque mode


PRPatxi
Joined: Oct 30, 2010

Dennis, free me from this suffering


Posted: Apr 4, 2014 12:44 PM    Msg. 105 of 183       
Quote: --- Original message by: Mootjuh
Maybe Halo 3 PC is born from the corpse of CE? We never know.


I want.

 
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