Adjutants AMF scripts were designed with 2013 in mind, idk if that will affect what you do, just tossing that out there.

doesn't matter. if it causes trouble i can just import the model with 2014 then save it as 2012 format.

2014 takes forever to load files with AMF. 2012 works fine

amf works better in 2012 but my .jms export script works waaay better in 2014. its a difference of almost 10 minutes +i have to close max 2012 before it will compile the .jms

Edited by killzone64 on Apr 12, 2014 at 11:47 PM

It takes me about a 2 minutes to export a JMS. 30 - 45 seconds to select a file to export, and another minute or so to actually export it.

It also takes me about a minute to import BSPs with the AMF importer in 2014.

3ds 8 takes about 2 seconds to complete a JMS export.

More things you have in your map, the longer it will take to export.

Of course, but with the same map (pit) there is a huge difference in exporting times between 3ds8 and max 2014.

ok so now, after all that setup for the render only material and applying it to every instance i imported i get a whole bunch of open edge errors. and the wrl points to every one of the lights that i have set to the render only material -_-



welding round 2....

i did. still open edges. is this being caused by the intersecting geometry?. i have all the pieces seperate from the bsp (still linked to the frame) and they have the duped material applied to them. but i am still getting open edges and in the same spots. its almsot as if the materials aren't named properly

i found the issue. just as i suspected, i renamed the materials improperly. the ! is supposed to go in the sub material name not the name box in the multi sub object -_-
Edited by killzone64 on Apr 13, 2014 at 10:46 AM

yea, after the name in the sub material box, here.

also anytime i have used a texture twice in a bsp, if once is for a decal, light etc,
then i just rename the texture and use it that way, and make a separate shader for that.

Did you run an STL check on the bsp and instanced objects? Are the instance objects like lights, done as "instances" or "copies"?

bump a update wood be nice

Killzone is busy being lazy and not working on rats nest.

i dont think you get the purpose of a bump...

and your being lazy to for not giving bigass map of yours a update :[]
Edited by DOOM899 on Apr 27, 2014 at 08:27 PM

Someone should get some dramatic sound effects for these edgy posts. I can see it now so clearly, "Halo maps forums: The soap opera"

bigass is in private beta last i heard, even if they had updates they wouldnt be allowed to show. also theyve been working on that dmr, happy? for rats nest, ripz.

it dose not take so much time to work on the DMR but for now that well do
now we need a update for this »Halo 3 "Rats nest plezz

Don't make the lights a part of the BSP, that will just eat up yor triangle counts. Make them scenery (or device_machines for future mods if applicable).

Remember to make the lights actually emit light, but not until you're near to running final lightmaps or making betas, otherwise running test lightmaps will take longer than necessary. As for that pelican landing bay, you could delete the faces that aren't visible from the play area to save polies. If you make it render only, grenades might go through it, ruining any sense of realism that part might have, so model a very low poly collision model for it in the BSP that's invisible but collidable.

For the piping near the roofs, I'd suggest making t scenery, and anything that a player might hide behind should be BSP (so explosive damages won't bleed through). If it must be scenery, then keep the object where it is at, model a basic collision model and do like I said for the pelican dock.

not as much time as you think if you no what your doing tho then again It dose take some time just like the toothbrush dose
Edited by DOOM899 on Apr 28, 2014 at 05:01 AM

yeah I no just like the toothbrush does
Edited by DOOM899 on Apr 28, 2014 at 06:14 AM

I brush my teeth for weeks...

Any ways. Rats nest is looking smexy! nice job Killzone :D

Stop watching too much SBB.

you cannot stop me form seeing them haha there soooo funny well most of them and thanks to them and I got some more players into liking halo ce

StormUndBlackbird / the bag man you like fun things yes take a look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ECa0p8Rso&feature=autoshare
it's something you did not see

yes I have been working on the gravity hammer to get it just like halo 3 it is hard but fun

Edited by DOOM899 on Apr 30, 2014 at 07:34 AM

Most of them....??

yeah you need to work on your humor more bean [laughs]

UPDATES 5/5/14 10:54 PM
i though i might sneak in something on custom editions 10th anniversary, and i'm finally updating this thread! its has been a while but college takes a lot of time from my hobbies. plus i have also been hanging around with SBB a bit too much recently. tbh i picked the biggest pain in the blam halo 3 map to port. the base bsp is 20,000 polys. then there is 620,000 polys worth of instanced geometry............. 100,000 of that is just the lights, yes you read correctly, just the lights. currently i have the base bsp ingame, portaled, and ready for more instances. i am currently working on fixing up all the instanced geometry that is needed in order to play the map properly. once that is done you can expect to see some footage from SBB (AKA internal testing footage +random shenanigans and glitches that we happen to find)

bsp progress as of recent





i just today began working on a sky for rats nest. and i am quite happy with the progress that i am making on it so far. its my first time messing with a sky so i am learning the do's and dont's as i go.



still wip but its getting there.

that's all for tonight but expect a bunch more updates scattered throughout the next two weeks.
Edited by killzone64 on May 6, 2014 at 02:18 AM

Looking good, keep it up

very excited about this, i think rats nest is a great multi-player map

i need some with stairs, i remember there being a certain method for making stairs smoother to climb. but i cant remember how to set it up. (my thought was to make the stairs render only and have a ramp collision in its place)

Im getting really excited now. I should try porting a h3 map lel.

DO NOT make the lights a part of the BSP, even if they are render-only. Make them scenery, give them proper LODs and cutoff values, then they won't be a big pain (also, you probably won't be able to copy Halo 3ms lighting anyway.)

Make sure you optimize the model for CE. The map models have some vertices in the middle of things that can be removed (Kirby said they were for portaling purposes)

OK so a quick update, the map is now in a playable state. it doesn't look pretty, but its playable. so i am now doing the first weapon balancing pass with the SBB guys. all the lights are in-gamed and all the necessary geometry to play the map is in place as well. once i get more details ingame i will show more pictures. you can also expect a public beta By CE3.

thats all for today. ill hopefully have more updates for you guys later on this week
Edited by killzone64 on May 19, 2014 at 01:34 PM