1. Is it possible to have multiple BSPs in a single multiplayer scenario? If so, how exactly do I get it to work? I have a level with 2 different structures, but only one shows up in sapien, but I did successfully create 2 structure BSPs.

2. I'm looking for an animator for some new weapons I modeled, I am terrible at animations and never could get them to work, so would anyone be interested in helping me out with that?

3. Can someone link me to a biped Elite, either from H2 or H3, to use as a player?

4. Why did I get an error when I followed the instructions for creating water on a map? I got some warning about cyan something, I don't remember what it said, BUT the structure still created, and the map doesn't even show up in the map list in game...

elite bipeds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tcqMAZTvr3A

Thank you for the link! :D

Extinction and coldsnap don't have 2 different bsps... the bases in coldsnap are just hidden down below in the mountain areas and then you teleport outside

Extinction has a night time BSP that the map switches over to when you kill a biped somewhere on top of the covenant cruiser. I'm not sure about cold snap, but I've heard rumors...

Ahh it does. Does that sync though?

It does sync. Switching bsps with trigger volumes have some issues.

Even still, if some two people are in two different bsps on the same map, would that work? I just don't think BSP switching like how this guy wants it, works

It does work. I'm actually helping someone with his map which has 2 bsps. We're still trying to figure out how to make people spawn in 2nd bsp and fix respawning from one bsp to another.

With coldsnap and extinction, the BSPs are nearly identical and overlap. So switching the TODs is the perfect crime, because it doesn't mess with the playable terrain

What shouldn't work properly in multiplayer is linear terrain laid out over multiple BSPs. Because as soon as the host moves from one BSP to another, the clients will go into either an infinite-fall loop(in the eyes of the host and vice versa) or simply exception. cmiw.

Exactly, I'm building a singleplayer like level, but made for multiplayer, and I want to be able to go from one structure to another, even if I have to use teleports (if possible that way). And nothing like Coldsnap nor Extinction.

im planning on doing something similar as well,
my plan was to create a respawn room with weapons etc for a real armory loadout feel i
n the first bsp of the map with trigger volumes attached to teleporters in that room that link to each subsequent bsp.
Edited by casual mods on May 21, 2013 at 08:55 PM

Unless all the BSPs at least store the collision data for the other BSPs, it wont work (And at that point, just merge all the BSPs). The host is the only one who really matters, so if the area your in doesnt have collision on the host.. well, your screwed.

is there a limit on how big a bsp can be?
and can you explain how collision would sync bewteen the host\client a little better?
Edited by casual mods on May 21, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Large.
Host decides whats real, simple as that.

Bad idea. People would respawn the same room and potentially kill each other, if the room is small enough, a player that does wont be able to spawn at all because a player (assuming one had died and is choosing weapons) is still too close to the spawn point, which will give you the "waiting for space to clear" error and you would not be able to spawn until the player already in the armory leaves it.

Multiple BSPs only really works when the BSPs are geometrically the same. This is why all maps that have multiple BSPs only have basic functions such as night/day. (Speaking for multiplayer of course.) if you try using multiple BSPs that have different areas (like an interior), you will run into many issues.

It's worth running some tests though, because I was testing some bsps for B30:E the other day, and because I'm lazy they're always mp maps rather than sp. And since they're mp we can go online with more than one person, though the bsps have to be blank since obviously sp stuff wouldn't work very well if at all.

Llama Juice was riding in my gunner seat (and was also hosting the server) and I was driving the hog, and as we hit a bsp switch, I manually switched (bsp_switch #) and he did not. What he described was being in a flying warthog until we hit the point at which the second bsp resumed.

So at the least we know that manually triggered bsp switches in mp by the client (not the host) do function, which is rather strange. I don't know however what would happen if two people on foot in separate bsps tried to play at the same time or god forbid interact over bsp lines. And being in a hog might have convoluted that even more.
Edited by slashrat on May 22, 2013 at 04:59 PM

Which you just gave an exact explanation of "Host decides whats real", the person thought he was falling, he wasnt. You drove to a overlap.

Host is the only one who matters. Doesnt matter what others see, only what the host sees is real.

what happens when you dont manually bsp_switch # and let the game do it for you?
and have you tested host bsp_switch # from host side?

Interesting, I'm working on a multiplayer map where I want 2 BSP Structures in a single scenario, one side is desert like, and the other I want it to be snowing, dark and light fog. I have a tunnel that connects between the 2, but I'm not sure how to create 2 separate BSP Structures.