
MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:20 PM
Msg. 36 of 145
The backdrops are actually camera shots, so I would actually need to go in and make them.
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Goldy De Wise
Joined: Dec 24, 2011
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Posted: Feb 17, 2013 11:52 PM
Msg. 37 of 145
Excellent work on this.
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licon4812
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 03:18 AM
Msg. 38 of 145
this is the most sufficient ui ever i approve although it would be good if hac can download the maps you dont have Edited by licon4812 on Feb 18, 2013 at 03:29 AM
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 04:31 AM
Msg. 39 of 145
Yes, definitely. For a future update, I am going to see if I can coordinate with Firescythe and the Open Sauce to team to bring that functionality to this UI, and to Halo itself.
Stay tuned.
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Kal825B
Joined: Jan 16, 2012
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 08:14 AM
Msg. 40 of 145
I can't wait....
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licon4812
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 02:37 PM
Msg. 41 of 145
os doesn't work on my computer
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 02:46 PM
Msg. 42 of 145
If OS doesn't work on your computer, I'm not sure I can do anything about that. :| Sorry.
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 02:50 PM
Msg. 43 of 145
Quote: --- Original message by: licon4812 os doesn't work on my computer File a bug report.
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killzone64
Joined: Jun 9, 2010
sometimes i miss the chaos occasionally
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 03:22 PM
Msg. 44 of 145
didn't you backup the original strings dll?
plus if you still want to use it you can just backup your copy of halo to another folder and use one for the stock game and one for os Edited by killzone64 on Feb 18, 2013 at 03:23 PM
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killzone64
Joined: Jun 9, 2010
sometimes i miss the chaos occasionally
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 03:57 PM
Msg. 45 of 145
the benefits of OS definately outweigh the hassles. and i believe either Kirby or waffles made a ui with version changer built in if you still want to use it
Edited by killzone64 on Feb 18, 2013 at 03:59 PM
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The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 04:17 PM
Msg. 46 of 145
I have yet to see a feature so essential, that it's worth installing. It's all just "nice-to-haves", but definitely not why I came to HCE. Let's focus more on how MoooseGuy pulled off this UI fantastically, rather than have another stupid OS argument.
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 04:31 PM
Msg. 47 of 145
Quote: --- Original message by: The Lodeman I have yet to see a feature so essential, that it's worth installing. It's all just "nice-to-haves", but definitely not why I came to HCE. Let's focus more on how MoooseGuy pulled off this UI fantastically, rather than have another stupid OS argument. Agreed. OS really doesn't bring much to the table that's much use unless you've got a large team of modders like CMT does. The only useful features that I can see even for modders which could be essential for certain types of maps would be increased tagspace and increased mapsize. However, increased tagspace is useless unless you've actually got enough tags to use which fit.(A lot of mappers just throw randoms into their maps which make no sense so if they've run out of tagspace, it's not because they need to bypass the tagspace limits, it's because they haven't managed their tags properly) Anyway, let's not have an OS argument anyway. :P Awesome to hear that singleplayer map downloading is a feature you're looking at, Moose, although I kinda already knew because of CMT over on Halomods :P
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licon4812
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 05:01 PM
Msg. 48 of 145
os doesnt work because my computer isnt capable to handle its fetures
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 05:06 PM
Msg. 49 of 145
Quote: --- Original message by: Long WangQuote: --- Original message by: killzone64
didn't you backup the original strings dll? Didn't have a reason to at the time, as I never planned on not using version changer. Quote: --- Original message by: killzone64
plus if you still want to use it you can just backup your copy of halo to another folder and use one for the stock game and one for os That's not the point. I don't care about reinstalling. My point is that why should I need redownload and reinstall the game just for an add-on. Tbh, anyone can send you the file. I'm about to step out the door but I can send you mine if you want it. Quote: --- Original message by: JazQuote: --- Original message by: The Lodeman I have yet to see a feature so essential, that it's worth installing. It's all just "nice-to-haves", but definitely not why I came to HCE. Let's focus more on how MoooseGuy pulled off this UI fantastically, rather than have another stupid OS argument. Agreed. OS really doesn't bring much to the table that's much use unless you've got a large team of modders like CMT does. The only useful features that I can see even for modders which could be essential for certain types of maps would be increased tagspace and increased mapsize. However, increased tagspace is useless unless you've actually got enough tags to use which fit.(A lot of mappers just throw randoms into their maps which make no sense so if they've run out of tagspace, it's not because they need to bypass the tagspace limits, it's because they haven't managed their tags properly) Anyway, let's not have an OS argument anyway. :P Awesome to hear that singleplayer map downloading is a feature you're looking at, Moose, although I kinda already knew because of CMT over on Halomods :P More grenades, boarding, enterable bipeds. Unified versioning (no need for version changer), faster boot times regardless of the number of maps and auto map downloads? Edited by Masters1337 on Feb 18, 2013 at 05:08 PMQuote: --- Original message by: licon4812 os doesnt work because my computer isnt capable to handle its fetures Add -no_os_gfx to the end of your shortcut and it will work. Add it just like you would console or devmode. I don't believe the way OS is set up SP map autodownloads would work or be effeciant. SP maps are much larger in file size and you may as well download it in the browser than be stuck on a screen in CE. Edited by Masters1337 on Feb 18, 2013 at 05:12 PM
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Guilty_spark
Joined: Dec 8, 2011
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 05:26 PM
Msg. 50 of 145
doesn't lumoria come with the original strings.dll?
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licon4812
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 09:14 PM
Msg. 51 of 145
no it comes with modified ones
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Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011
Dead.
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 09:29 PM
Msg. 52 of 145
Does it even come with a strings dll?
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Posted: Feb 18, 2013 11:31 PM
Msg. 53 of 145
Lestat, don't even start please.
And yes, -no_os_gfx will enable you to play with the features of OS without the graphical enhancements if your computer does not support them. Edited by MoooseGuy on Feb 18, 2013 at 11:36 PM
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
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Posted: Feb 19, 2013 01:07 AM
Msg. 54 of 145
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: JazQuote: --- Original message by: The Lodeman I have yet to see a feature so essential, that it's worth installing. It's all just "nice-to-haves", but definitely not why I came to HCE. Let's focus more on how MoooseGuy pulled off this UI fantastically, rather than have another stupid OS argument. Agreed. OS really doesn't bring much to the table that's much use unless you've got a large team of modders like CMT does. The only useful features that I can see even for modders which could be essential for certain types of maps would be increased tagspace and increased mapsize. However, increased tagspace is useless unless you've actually got enough tags to use which fit.(A lot of mappers just throw randoms into their maps which make no sense so if they've run out of tagspace, it's not because they need to bypass the tagspace limits, it's because they haven't managed their tags properly) Anyway, let's not have an OS argument anyway. :P Awesome to hear that singleplayer map downloading is a feature you're looking at, Moose, although I kinda already knew because of CMT over on Halomods :P More grenades, boarding, enterable bipeds. Unified versioning (no need for version changer), faster boot times regardless of the number of maps and auto map downloads? We're talking essential features here. More grenades is nice, boarding is nice, enterable bipeds are nice, though perhaps essential to some ideas if used correctly. I hate unified versioning and it's a feature of HAC anyway as is faster boot times. Auto map downloads are also a feature of HAC and the way the feature's implemented is much better imo as HAC simply maintains the loading screen style, thus maintaining immersion. Plus OS isn't compatible with HAC. That's the only reason I'm not using it personally though as I don't mind spending the time installing something. :P (HAC is awesome; bookmarks unlike most of OS's features are essential once you've started using them properly) Edited by Jaz on Feb 19, 2013 at 01:44 AM
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licon4812
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
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Posted: Feb 19, 2013 01:26 AM
Msg. 55 of 145
i have hac and os and does the ui work with Spv3 truthand reconciliation the os vestion Edited by licon4812 on Feb 19, 2013 at 02:42 AM
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:11 AM
Msg. 56 of 145
The UI works with the current version of the SPv3 Truth and Reconciliation (a50), but right now you need to load it through the Classic Campaign menu due to the filename.
CMT will be re-releasing the level along with their other levels under a new naming convention, which will allow it to be loaded through the SPv3 menu.
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The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012
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Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:39 AM
Msg. 57 of 145
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
More grenades, boarding, enterable bipeds. Unified versioning (no need for version changer), faster boot times regardless of the number of maps and auto map downloads? Edited by Masters1337 on Feb 18, 2013 at 05:08 PM
It's opinions of course, but to me those are just, as I said, "nice-to-haves". Boot time doesn't affect gameplay, more grenades don't if you as designer don't want/need more types. Same for boarding and enterable bipeds. And in SP boarding can already be achieved, albeit not super efficient => therefore the OS mechanism is just a nice-to-have, not essential. Version changer again doesn't affect SP, and auto-map-downloads is possible without OS...and apparently according to your last point also not efficient for SP. Cheers!
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licon4812
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
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Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:33 AM
Msg. 58 of 145
ok thanks
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Posted: Feb 20, 2013 04:59 PM
Msg. 59 of 145
No problem.  Also Dennis, I was wondering; around when is the next round of uploads gonna be coming up? Just so I can better plan some stuff.
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raphaelBLOOD WAR
Joined: Dec 4, 2012
I wipe your maps with your own blood!
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Posted: Feb 21, 2013 11:07 AM
Msg. 60 of 145
So this ui is finally complete.
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Nickster5000
Joined: Dec 11, 2010
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Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:42 PM
Msg. 61 of 145
Quote: --- Original message by: raphaelBLOOD WAR So this ui is finally complete. Probably not. He'll update as new projects come out.
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Skyancez3o4
Joined: Apr 6, 2010
I miss CE
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Posted: Feb 22, 2013 01:29 AM
Msg. 62 of 145
Hey, I have a question about the multi-campaign menu. If some of the campaigns use the same name for levels (Eg: A10,A30, etc), how will the UI distinguish between them?
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Posted: Feb 22, 2013 01:53 AM
Msg. 63 of 145
Halo itself cannot distinguish between one version of, say, A10 and another. This means that if you have a different version of A10 in your maps folder, it will still be loaded through the classic campaign menu, as has always been the case.
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Skyancez3o4
Joined: Apr 6, 2010
I miss CE
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Posted: Feb 22, 2013 03:01 AM
Msg. 64 of 145
Ok nvm, I got confused with the CMT campaign page lol.
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Posted: Feb 24, 2013 12:13 PM
Msg. 65 of 145
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The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012
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Posted: Feb 24, 2013 12:47 PM
Msg. 66 of 145
Great job MoooseGuy, you pulled off this UI very well. Thanks for your effort!
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Posted: Feb 24, 2013 10:35 PM
Msg. 67 of 145
Lmao, welcome back?  EDIT: If you guys have suggestions for improvements to this UI, feel free to send me a PM, Xfire message, or post in the thread mentioned in the readme.  Or, of course, right here. Edited by MoooseGuy on Feb 24, 2013 at 10:44 PM
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licon4812
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
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Posted: Feb 26, 2013 05:49 PM
Msg. 68 of 145
it would be cool if you can automatically download a firefight or sp map if you don't have it using Hac
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Guilty_spark
Joined: Dec 8, 2011
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Posted: Feb 26, 2013 05:53 PM
Msg. 69 of 145
moooseguy already said he is gonna have them downloadable with OS in the future.
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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008
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Posted: Feb 26, 2013 06:31 PM
Msg. 70 of 145
That is, only if the creators of HAC and/or OS support this UI. I still have made no contact with whoever created HAC. Heck, I have no idea who even made that extension. If you give a mouse a map list... 
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