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The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012

Hipster Lodeman: Enjoyed goats before it was cool.


Posted: Jan 19, 2013 09:11 AM    Msg. 1 of 20       
Hi all,

Seeing as how OS is adding more and more interesting "out of the box" features, such as more particles per frame, longer viewing distances, etc. I was wondering if anyone had already ventured into redoing the models (weapons, bipeds, scenery, ...), particles and shaders for the vanilla Halo tagset (including MP tags such as flamethrower, fuel rod cannon).

If a thread like this isn't up yet, perhaps it could become a collection of sorts for people to contribute and add towards a vanilla OS tagset database. Ideally it should then become possible to just go in and easily replace the vanilla tags with the OS upgraded ones.

It'd be great to have a relatively simple upgrade module for existing SP maps visually.

So yeah, if anyone has already redone some vanilla tags, post 'em up and let's start a nice collection!

With love,
Lodeman


Ubergoober
Joined: Oct 11, 2010


Posted: Jan 19, 2013 09:34 AM    Msg. 2 of 20       
id like to see what mythril could come up with as far as particles go, fella's got skills


Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011

Dead.


Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:15 AM    Msg. 3 of 20       
I forgot his username but I think it's starts with ki11a or something...

He was working on something like that.
Not sure how well he's doing on his big OS project.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jan 19, 2013 02:35 PM    Msg. 4 of 20       
The best thing to do would be to use H3 and Reach and H2 assets, rather than try to pretty up H1. Unless you specifically want something custom.


The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012

Hipster Lodeman: Enjoyed goats before it was cool.


Posted: Jan 19, 2013 05:55 PM    Msg. 5 of 20       
Well the purpose is just to have a visual upgrade of the stock weapon set. I would love to see the original content taken, and improved upon, rather than just replacing it with content from the newer games. The point of this thread is to see if some people by any chance were already doing this, and if not, perhaps someone will feel inspired to do so.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jan 19, 2013 06:00 PM    Msg. 6 of 20       
Yeah, I'm saying it won't look good. It be best to keep the stock behavior but upgrade the visuals to later games, which were designed to support normals and specular maps.


The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012

Hipster Lodeman: Enjoyed goats before it was cool.


Posted: Jan 19, 2013 06:08 PM    Msg. 7 of 20       
Oh is that what you're saying.
That just doesn't make sense. Read the initial post, it's about redoing the original content in any in order to make it look nice and modern. Redoing means redoing, but starting from the old as a starting point.

That would be best. That is what the thread is about.


Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010

[Insert sarcastic comment here]


Posted: Jan 19, 2013 06:16 PM    Msg. 8 of 20       
Masterz, you could remodel everything completely and still maintain Halo 1's style.

Quite obviously Lodex wants the vanilla tagset redone, as in rebuilt in the same style. With normal maps. Saying that only the newer games have normal maps makes no sense as OS supports normal maps and Halo 1's art style is not closed off from such modern techniques.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jan 19, 2013 06:23 PM    Msg. 9 of 20       
I thought he just wanted normal maps and specular maps for the stock content? Or was I misunderstanding.


The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012

Hipster Lodeman: Enjoyed goats before it was cool.


Posted: Jan 19, 2013 06:39 PM    Msg. 10 of 20       
Quote: --- Original message by: The Lodeman

I was wondering if anyone had already ventured into redoing the models (weapons, bipeds, scenery, ...), particles and shaders for the vanilla Halo tagset (including MP tags such as flamethrower, fuel rod cannon).


I believe you were misunderstanding.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jan 20, 2013 04:06 AM    Msg. 11 of 20       
Well in that case Lodex, you may as well just look at what we've been doing on CMT. Pretty much every stock asset has been recreated from scratch, with the exception so far of the FRG and Flamethrower.


The Lodeman
Joined: Sep 16, 2012

Hipster Lodeman: Enjoyed goats before it was cool.


Posted: Jan 20, 2013 05:05 AM    Msg. 12 of 20       
Quote: --- Original message by: grey knight
Demanding things eh? why don't you do them yourself. So all you do is make yourself comfortable being in this forum and posting crap just get attention? while this retarded members do stuff for you? Oh no, just no...


Asking if things exist.
Demanding things.

Idiot. Just don't post if you're illiterate.

@Masterz: I was not aware you guys were actually doing the vanilla tagset from scratch, with the aim of having them look like a modern version of the original tagset. I mean I haven't even seen CMT's redone marines yet, just ODSTs so far.

But if what you say is true, perhaps you could bundle them together and it could all be uploaded in a nice and easy "OS vanilla upgrade pack", so to speak.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jan 20, 2013 05:49 AM    Msg. 13 of 20       
Quote: --- Original message by: The Lodeman
Quote: --- Original message by: grey knight
Demanding things eh? why don't you do them yourself. So all you do is make yourself comfortable being in this forum and posting crap just get attention? while this retarded members do stuff for you? Oh no, just no...


Asking if things exist.
Demanding things.

Idiot. Just don't post if you're illiterate.

@Masterz: I was not aware you guys were actually doing the vanilla tagset from scratch, with the aim of having them look like a modern version of the original tagset. I mean I haven't even seen CMT's redone marines yet, just ODSTs so far.

But if what you say is true, perhaps you could bundle them together and it could all be uploaded in a nice and easy "OS vanilla upgrade pack", so to speak.


Well it's eventually going to have 90% of the stock content redone. While we are not making stock tags, it be very simple to change a few shaders for things like the AR screen and the needler, and adapt it to the original tags.


Edit: Of the stock content we have replacements for and have already announced (this does not mean things on the list aren't going to be redone, they just aren't planned yet or are a WIP)

WEAPONS
AR
Pistol
RL
Sniper
Shotgun
Frag (not done yet but happening)
Needler
PR
PP
Sword (old model, redone effects)

VEHICLES
Chain Hog
Wraith
Pelican (WIP)
Shade
Tank (Grizzly)

BIPEDS
Elites
ODSTs
Jackals
Edited by Masters1337 on Jan 20, 2013 at 05:56 AM


OrangeJuice
Joined: Jan 29, 2009

Documentation and debug.txt


Posted: Jan 20, 2013 05:11 PM    Msg. 14 of 20       
What about compiling a new halocesetup_xx_1.09.exe that contains all the upgrades, and remakes of the original maps(os_whatever.yelo, complete with updated bitmaps for the multiplayer menu) and a ui map that allows easy tweaking of the OpenSauce settings?


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jan 20, 2013 05:18 PM    Msg. 15 of 20       
You can't really repackage the installer, and all maps have checksums so that wouldn't work either (unless OS could change that, which wouldn't be a very good idea)


Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010

[Insert sarcastic comment here]


Posted: Jan 20, 2013 05:32 PM    Msg. 16 of 20       
Well, you could make another installer and do the same thing(excepting installing Halo of course, which seems pointless for anyone who knows about this anyway). Which would be completely legal.
Edited by Jaz on Jan 20, 2013 at 05:33 PM


Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011

Dead.


Posted: Jan 20, 2013 06:13 PM    Msg. 17 of 20       
Quote: --- Original message by: grey knight
Quote: --- Original message by: The Lodeman
Quote: --- Original message by: grey knight
Demanding things eh? why don't you do them yourself. So all you do is make yourself comfortable being in this forum and posting crap just get attention? while this retarded members do stuff for you? Oh no, just no...


Asking if things exist.
Demanding things.

Idiot. Just don't post if you're illiterate.

@Masterz: I was not aware you guys were actually doing the vanilla tagset from scratch, with the aim of having them look like a modern version of the original tagset. I mean I haven't even seen CMT's redone marines yet, just ODSTs so far.

But if what you say is true, perhaps you could bundle them together and it could all be uploaded in a nice and easy "OS vanilla upgrade pack", so to speak.


Grow up, flip out, lawl.

I seem to remember you doing the same thing,except it was about your name and identity.


bourrin33
Joined: Oct 19, 2009

HEK not installed tho


Posted: Jan 21, 2013 03:37 PM    Msg. 18 of 20       
Quote: --- Original message by: Dumb AI
Quote: --- Original message by: grey knight
Quote: --- Original message by: The Lodeman
Quote: --- Original message by: grey knight
Demanding things eh? why don't you do them yourself. So all you do is make yourself comfortable being in this forum and posting crap just get attention? while this retarded members do stuff for you? Oh no, just no...


Asking if things exist.
Demanding things.

Idiot. Just don't post if you're illiterate.

@Masterz: I was not aware you guys were actually doing the vanilla tagset from scratch, with the aim of having them look like a modern version of the original tagset. I mean I haven't even seen CMT's redone marines yet, just ODSTs so far.

But if what you say is true, perhaps you could bundle them together and it could all be uploaded in a nice and easy "OS vanilla upgrade pack", so to speak.


Grow up, flip out, lawl.

I seem to remember you doing the same thing,except it was about your name and identity.

Will you ever stop answering trolls/troll posts ?


bourrin33
Joined: Oct 19, 2009

HEK not installed tho


Posted: Jan 21, 2013 06:24 PM    Msg. 19 of 20       
Change your password.


Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011

Dead.


Posted: Jan 21, 2013 06:59 PM    Msg. 20 of 20       
Or make a new account (with a strong password)
Edited by Dumb AI on Jan 21, 2013 at 07:00 PM

 

 
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