well the first one that comes to mind is Mendicant Bias. seeing as in the books they never did find him. they killed the primordial so i can only think of Mendicant Bias. What do others think?

I really do wish I knew what the f--- you were talking about... sorry.

Didact bro

i dont think he's alive but it is possible that he is. but why would he attack us? hmmmm. you do bring a valid point though. do monitors dream? because in the E3 campaign demo the voice said "I've long dreamt of this day Reclaimer." this could just be an AI trying to relate to living things.

oh, your talking about the ai at the end of halo 4 trailer. i think its, a forerunner defensive AI thats similar to monitors.

i just read up a little and now i think that it might be Offensive Bias. and now you say that. so now we have three candidates. now i'd like to add one more but this one is extremely unlikely. A Precursor. at the end of Primordium the precursor said "It is your task to kill this servant, that another may be freed." right before the Didact killed him, which was awesome btw.

Precursors? They've been long dead. 343i used what Bungie intended to be a mere myth in forerunner society to make the forerunners seem extremely violent. They also used the precursors to bring humanity to a huge technological scale just so that they could make humanity seem advanced enough to rival the forerunners. Something that ruined the story. Bungie made something where humanity was the underdog ( for a while that is ) and 343i twisted and bent that so that humanity was something huge at some point in time until the forerunners decided to bring us back to cave man times ( even though humanity was found close to the period of time before the rings detonated in Bungie's story and were preserved by the Librarian ) and split into subspecies and stuff by the forerunners. Plus the precursors were LONG gone in Bungie's storyline ( They only left NARROW traces to their presence and as a result were regarded as a myth by forerunner society ). In truth the "Precursor" in Primordium is actually a Gravemind ( which somehow died because of decay ).

The main enemy is believed to be the Didact or perhaps the exact opposite of him by many of us for multiple reasons ( last terminal in HCEA stated that the humans might even prefer the flood over the didact when he's angry, and because of the fact that his symbol is shown multiple times, even in the live action videos shown before the gameplay and at the end of the gameplay right before it flips upside down ) however this would be extremely stupid as the Didact is supposed to be of high morale and what not. They made humanity their Heirs in Bungie's original storyline, however it seems he may destroy them in 343's. Plus the fact that 343 Guilty Spark turned out to be a human originally before being transferred into a monitor's "body" is just bull****. That's the end of my rant. Have a nice day.

Spark was an AI ever since the beginning of his existence.That's what I think Bungie's story for 343 GS was.It makes more sense than what 032 mentioned earlier.

the didact's symbol and the one from the H4 trailer are not the same. they're close but not the same. 1. the hexagon is filled in and 2. the arms connect to the outer circle. so this could either be an AI or another forerunner.

As I also said, the possible exact opposite of the Didact. Anyways, in the Primordium, Spark is revealed to be the human "Chakas" embodied into a monitor's shell. Which is also complete bullsh**. Basicly in 343i's story, the HUMANS defeated the flood (even though they were on a lower technological scale) and were then split into subspecies and brought back to the cave man times after the forerunners decided to start a war against them. You know, 343i's story. Oh and a new addition to 343i's story is this: Forerunners can mutate. One Forerunner mutated so much he's a shapeless blob of hair, skin, veins, and teeth. My god, what is this crap? Long time halo fans who know nothing of the story?
Edited by 032 Mendicant Bias on Jun 24, 2012 at 04:15 PM

where can i read bungie's story? because when i read some of the newer books i did feel like they contradict the older ones. and yea that mutation thing is kinda weird.

now for the enemy speculation. i cant remember if the master builder is dead or not, but he would seem to be the kind of guy that would want vengeance and annihilation seeing as he sanctioned the construction of the halo array.

Don't believe most of the crud Greg Bear wrote. It's all nonsense and contradicts many themes of the Halo series.

It's either Mendicant or the Didact, however, there is more supporting evidence that it's the Didact since visual themes of the Didact are similar to those in released Halo 4 media. Unless, of course, Mendicant Bias assimilated the Didact.

my speculation is that whoever it is, they will be shot again and again with the trusty ma5c assault rifle, and then they'll blow up violently.

that's guns and bullets logic for you.

MA5D,actually.But who cares.Still the same 32-round assault rifle.

ilold

Halo 4's New Enemy?

Forerunner defense AIs which have either mistaken the Infinity and the Master Chief as hostiles, either just... hostile or vulnerable to the flood (Onyx sentinels are supposed to eliminate a possible flood vector) infection. Or, they are controlled by a nasty Forerunner AI that has gone rampant. This is supported by the fact that they have orange strips of light; when 343 Guilty Spark went insane, his eye glowed orange. Possible connection? However, this does not support the fact that during the E3 trailer ( which was AWESOME) there were robots similar to Promethen Knights, and they had BLUE lights. Which undermines that theory.

I conclued fo reading stuff here and there that forerunners dont like much the humans.
They just now they are able to contain the flood, and now they know humans can blow up forerunner technilogies and structures.

Would you let enter in your home those who blew up 3 of your other houses ?

Hmm. I didn't really look at it that way.

BUT did you hear that old man speak at the end? He sounded more happy - which is really strange, because if he is trying to kill the humies, then...

Unless the humans were mistaken for covenant with the advanced infinity.

The sad thing is, Halo 4 Followed is going to draw a totally bogus conclusion from this and draw tons of people in. I hate it when he does that. He jumps to conclusions, when you have to follow a strict analytical process. I'll walk people through it.

What do we know?

Forerunner defense Ai's, bla bla bla, symbol like the didact, etc. Just stuff from that trailer, basically.

What can we find similar from other Halo games?

343 Guilty Spark glowed Orange when he was mad.

What conclusion can we find from that?

Don't these things have orange lights? Do Forerunner AI's glow orange when mad? Or crazy? or insane? They could be controlled by a crazy AI! Or they're all just malfunctioning.

What can contradict that?

There are defense Ai's attacking you that have blue lights. Duh, they're obviously not crazy.

Something else that fits in with the known data?

Maybe... The lights dictate which AI is controlling it! So the gameplay we have some crazy AI ( or not) controlling them, and at the end with the blue lights... Please not be Cortana.

Start with what you know. Jump to conclusions from there, every time looking for something that contradicts, int he slightest, your conclusion. if it does, back to the drawing board.
Edited by LegionofShadows on Jun 26, 2012 at 08:30 AM

I can't help but wonder if forge world will have a terrain editor

It won't. Pretty sure that 343 is continuing using a modified version of the Blam! Engine.

Just a brief recap, Mendicant Bias is most definitely off the list, if anyone here has bothered to check all terminals, Mendicant Bias sent the chief to that planet to be his "example" ( to show his masters that he has changed his ways ) right before the destruction of Installation 04(b) and the extreme damage the ark sustained. The blue forerunner AIs are actually variants of the classic ones we see ( aka the default Promethean Knight and Crawlers ). I honestly doubt a rampant AI is the cause of the different variants of Promethean Defense AIs. Anyways, I'm glad to hear that the covenant attacking you is a mere faction. Sadly, we don't know what's going on with the Arbiter because of the fact that in Halo: Glasslands, there were multiple elites that were against the Arbiter's decision to ally with the humans, not attack them ( which prompted him to say they are welcome to try and kill him ).
Edited by 032 Mendicant Bias on Jun 27, 2012 at 07:25 PM

Whats that got to do with it? Halo has used the same engine for every game, just upgraded... they could easily upgrade it with a terrain editor feature if they really wanted to...

Clearly,the version we're modding with is obsolete.