Quote: --- Original message by: The Cereal Killer

Before my opinion is stated, I'll just make it clear that I've little to no interest in H1 multiplayer, and my interest in modern Halo multiplayer (or any game, for that matter) is still limited.

I understand that you're talented at what you've done. That must be true due to the popularity of the map; that said, please understand my opinion without being insulted: it should not be incorporated into (or even associated with) Halo 4; furthermore, I would be disappointed in the developers if they did include it. This is because it was a Halo 1 map, designed for the Halo 1 engine, and it simply does not meet the standards of a 2012-2013 Halo (and never will without major editing, at which point it ceases to be the same map you created) in the area of graphics or mechanics.

It is a nice map. It's just not exactly professional quality. And professional quality will never be achieved by any single person on a map, for the simple reason that professional quality maps aren't created by individuals, but rather with very large teams (such as Bungie).

This is only a side note, but your original post seethes vanity; I'm sure it's unintentional. May wish to tone that down a bit. I know I'm often guilty of the same and worse, however it is not advised for a public appeal; that is, I only do it to create a persona, not when serious business hits the fan.
Edited by The Cereal Killer on Apr 11, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Quote: --- Original message by: Jaz
I'm confused.
Do you not understand how this 'optimization' thing works?
It WAS a Halo 1 map, designed for the Halo 1 engine.
However, there's this thing called 'scaling' which generally occurs during 'optimization'. This basically means that you can scale the 'quality' of something up or down depending on what platform you're preparing to support.
Clearly you did not understand this process, which is rather strange considering you just tried to pompously describe what professional quality is. Hmm...

Quote: --- Original message by: yoyorast
I respect your point of view, but can't desagree more. Yes, the map was made for Halo1 and of course it doesn't meet the 2012/13 standards. Now look at what they made with Custom Anniversary : new graphics, new engine but same map shape, same gameplay etc... Tell why wouldn't this woulnd't be possible for Yoyorast Island ?
But maybe you think Halo 4 will be very different from Halo 1 ? Well, we'll see, but if there's a CTF and Salyer mode in Halo 4, that's enough to think the map will as enjoyable as it is today.

Quote: ...it simply does not meet the standards of a 2012-2013 Halo (and never will without major editing, at which point it ceases to be the same map you created)

Quote: --- Original message by: yoyorast
About the "professional quality", well most of time what you say is true, but look at the map around here, there are plenty of them as good and sometimes even better than Halo 1 default's. Don't you think.

Quote: --- Original message by: Jaz
And still more people insisting they actually know at all what Halo 4's 'style' is, but just ignore them...

Quote: --- Original message by: TM_updates
Quite alot of bullcrap about "modern professional quality" and "modern standards of gameplay" is all that I read in the above post. Yes, bullcrap. Sorry TCK but I heavily disagree with you.

Quote: --- Original message by: tylerp14
Hey TCK, Are you Sceny's brother? I heard from Sceny that you are so I was just wondering...

Quote: --- Original message by: Sean Aero
As everyone has an opinion I might as well add mine.
Yoyorast Island map design is certainly unique and clearly represents a TRUE custom made map. It's purely creative and really gives the player the feeling of exploring something "new".
I think the feeling it gives players is the reason for its success and has made it quite the icon in Halo CE.

However....
As with most CE maps, gameplay wise they usually tend to fail quite a bit.
By gameplay I mean, on a competitive ground, where scores actually matter!

In my personal opinion this is the same with Yoyorast Island, it's slow passed and very sensitive for camping and spawn killing. In order to understand the map routes completely you'll have to play it a dozen times before you get a clue on what roads are available. So the map has quite a bit of a learning curve. Also all the water surrounding the island helps to break the pase of the game and tends to put certain players out of the game for a while. "Death water" would have been more suitable to keep the game going.

For these reasons I do not see this map being included as an official map with any future release of the next generation Halo games.

Quote: --- Original message by: Jaz
ethreepoh, you do realise nobody has permission to read someone else's PM right? It just says 'Message not found'.

Quote: --- Original message by: Mootjuh
I guess it didn't work out in the end huh? That's too bad.