say someone decides to take models from CE and puts it in another engine as a mod, and this someone credited the people who made the stuff, would this be ripping/illegal? since technically all your content are belong to microsoft?

It's still ripping because ripping means that it's taken from another game and not made custom.

Like Qwerty said, ripping is the act of taking a model from one game and putting it in another. Telling people it is yours though is another story, so if you do rip, just make sure you credit who made it first.

But they are made custom, just by another person!

plan to credit, but doubting anyone reads filefront descriptions..thanks for clarification

Since the models used in halo CE are already precompiled(into gbxmodels and stuff...): yes it is ripping

but then again... has anyone who WASN'T / ISN'T a CEO or high-end business person ever been sued by microsoft? They'll probably never know so....
Edited by OrangeJuice on Jan 5, 2012 at 08:27 PM

the company who made the engine went bye-bye, so microsoft can't sue nobody.
Edited by Actual on Jan 5, 2012 at 08:33 PM

I think they can sue you.. But I doubt they would.

They could conceivably sue anyone using their assets for profit.

Technically Bungie Still exists, they are still a thriving company. if you Read the EULA it states everything we make and put into BLAM it's basically theirs. Were Bungie's slaves.

Who said bungie left? They're making their next game, this time cross-platform..

He is talking about an engine of a company that disbanded. Not about Bungie.
Edited by Wolf_ on Jan 5, 2012 at 09:39 PM

not talking about bungie, talking about pandemic.
Edited by Actual on Jan 5, 2012 at 09:38 PM

Oh misread, the company who made the engine. I see.

I'm taking it your modding the only good game from Pandemic, I'm guessing your modding Battle Front 2.

evil plan ruined.


Edited by Actual on Jan 5, 2012 at 10:20 PM

I figured, now you have run into another problem Pandemic was the number one developer, but as a big player of SWBF2 myself I know that there were other companies involved. So Pandemic is dead but the others are very much alive. after all if the game was open so the engine could be used free willingly, than why is it still like 20 bucks?

Copyright violations are generally not criminal they are civil so legality is not the issue. You will not be arrested but you run the risk of being sued. Essentially if you take copyrighted assets from one game and place them into another game it is generally a copyright violation however it is up to the owners of the copyright to determine if they will bring suit or not. For the most part in the video game world unless you are going to either take or make profits from your "mod" or cause harm to the copyrighted brand the owner of the video game will not bring suit, but they can if they decide. Keep this in mind: ANYTHING made by ANYONE for or from a copyrighted asset like a video game can not be copyrighted because the original copyright prevents it. So if you make a model of something for or that looks like a Halo asset you can't copyright it so you have no legal protection for that asset or in essence you only possess it, you don't "legally" own it even though you made it. That means if you give it away or post it on the internet you have absolutely no legal right to determine what anyone does with it. You can't sue because you have no copyright.

Ah never mind, grey don't play well in the the black and white world of the young'ens. Yes it is OK to rip models from one game and place them into another as long as you don't try to sell it and the copyright owner does not complain.

that was informative, thanks Dennis.



Battlefront has mod tools just like HEK, just need to get the hang of em.
Edited by Actual on Jan 6, 2012 at 06:01 PM