Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
H3 BSPs can't render in HCE without OS.

Quote: --- Original message by: Lestat

I will retort for the one and only time, I welcome any and all criticism toward this subject, not how I wrote this post. I already know you don't like me, save your breath. You honestly think I'm just here to stir up my haters? I'd go to Madacity if that were my sole intention. Is it a coincidence that all the people I have had previous encounters with are all shouting rude comments? Please, I have an agenda and haters are not worth being a part of it. Do your own thing in your own little cramp corner if you can't help the community. What seems to be happening here is misfocus. Let me shine the light back on the subject of this thread.

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The whole point is, if we can just have access to Halo 3 BSP extraction tools, ports of Halo 3 maps will actually be possible. We should all know the results of "mock up" Halo 3 maps that were attempted, like Gaurdian, Foundary, Narrows (lmao), and Valhalla. They all failed because of their faulty BSPs. This plea may be perhaps pointless for most of the users who can't practice patience, but again, what about those one or two people who do have the patience? I guess we'll just ignore them? Just dismiss the possibility of actually having a good port of a Halo 3 level in Halo CE? Ignore the hundreds of requests? What harm could it pose to release a program that may end up being used by only a limited few who can understand the capability it represents? I suppose some heads may start to shrink back to normal.

I know exactly what's possible to port and Halo 3 CAN be ported, if you (whoever you may be) would just release some freaking BSP extraction tools. I've seen renders of raw H3 BSP data before, so you can't deny it's been done. If somehow you do find that task impossible, due to not knowing how, shame on ZTeam for advertising their abilities to rip but not share. I think enough people have already said what I just stated, so shame on them anyway. What good is it to show the community all the little tricks you know if they have no meaningful master plan? Simple personal gain unfortunately takes the cake here. ZTeam's YouTube channel is an unwelcome tease to all the people who just want to play some decent ports. I am DSalimander, AKA Sali. I made the ports of Ivory Tower, Beaver Creek, and almost Midship, if I had more support behind me. I represent myself and work with a select few who can appreciate things for what they are, not who/what made them where/how. You CANNOT say I don't posses the skills and means neccessary to port a Halo 3 map. And for the curious: the first map I plan to port is High Ground- a perfectly reasonable place to start. It would be a temple on which I can see the full possibility at hand if these tools were made available. I highly doubt High Ground surpasses the poly limit in Halo CE and the geometry can't be too horribly riddled with errors that it couldn't be fixed. The poly count is nowhere near the issue at hand and never has been. I have no intentions on porting an H3 SP map and I laugh at whoever does- it would be tedious. If you cannot appreciate having access to a quality map then leave Halo CE, as you don't belong here.

Creditentials, check em: http://www.xfire.com/profile/dsalimander/

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Edited by Lestat on Jan 2, 2012 at 06:50 PM

Quote: --- Original message by: goldkilla88
I see, it sounded like they would be released in the "packs" like the one you released it in. Anyway, Now that I hear why ZTeam has not let out one tag since the break up, i'm not AS pissed at them.

Quote: --- Original message by: LegionofShadows
Whatever sali says, the decision for Zteam to keep their tags is perfectly fine. You may not know this, but they created it. Its perfectly fine for them to keep it private, seeing as it is their property. Now, if they stole it from somebody else who created it, said it3 was their own, and refused to release it, well then there would be a problem with it.

Seeing as you obviously are a talented modder who can do what he/she wants, I say go ahead. Release the Halo 3 BSPs. Make us love you.

Plus, you know what I say about you? I know who you are! Click the link to find out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI&feature=related

Quote: --- Original message by: LegionofShadows
No, I meant the ports. I don't understand this business much, but if Zteam makes the asset necessary to port things from Halo 3 to CE, then the asset is still theirs, since it is their creation. So its perfectly alright to withhold it, because they made it.