I'm a sucky modeler, and I was wondering If I could get help while modeling from advaced modelers.

Basically all I did for now is putting a cylinder, deleting many faces and applying some symmetry. Idk how to start, I hope this could become a step by step tutorial :D



So... yeah... I made the back and it's supposed to be less wide than the rest of the gun. Crit plox ?

http://www.moddb.com/tutorials/beretta-9000-video-tutorial

http://www.randomlinkwithoutdescriptionthatdoesntapplycrittotheworkshown.com/hunterisinthefriendzonelmaooooooooooo/Paul

LMAO! Fail much.

I provided a link to a tutorial which will teach him how to model. That is crit as words are not needed. It is clearly a tutorial.

umad bro?

I'm just messing with ya Marty! :-)

Lodex, just post TM news and stop trolling please. ;)

Lol.

You should model it with a plane, then mirror it and attach both sides.

With a plane? you crazy. use spline modeling it's easier to get the right shape because all you have to do is trace around sections. it's a tone easier IMO.

No, plane modelling. Maybe that's why most people's models are so boxy, if they do it the way you just said.

You can model however you want but personally I find plane modelling easier because I can set up my wireframe how I want it, then once I have the outline, I can work with my wireframe to get the side, top, and bottom details. You can also do this with spline modelling I guess, but once you finish the outline it ends up as one big poly, and you have to connect the verts manually.

I started by Modeling a tea pot, much easier than you think.

Dont be so silly, you can spline model,vertex model or plane model, all produce the same results and it is personal preference only.

^what hé said. But i think I'll create hundreds of teapots and delete the faces i dont need.
@sarge1337: -10, i dont like how your model looks, I'll check hunters tut.

I cant work on the model atm, but I'll post pics when i consider it's needed, ty everyone

Edit : I must admit that plane modelling and hunter's tutorial is really good and complete, I recommend it to everyone
Edited by bourrin33 on Nov 21, 2011 at 03:43 PM

Are you joking? I'm a better modeler than you are.

I personally find that plane modeling will give me better results, and if spline modeling really does work, you're a fool to use it as a beginner, due to the amount of work and knowlege needed.

It all depends on what I'm modeling. For a majority of things I've modeled, I done it by box modeling. I've just recently started using plane modeling and so far, it's working out pretty well for me.

Here is some new progress using plane modeling. I'm not expecting much from this first model, I'm spending a lot of time to think how could it turn out.

Am I doin it rite ?

Reference :

Edited by bourrin33 on Nov 25, 2011 at 04:09 PM

Oh there is a face wrong about the curve of the back thing, it's corrected now
Edited by bourrin33 on Nov 25, 2011 at 04:12 PM

One thing I still can't get right to this day is getting those details into the model. I used to boolean them in, but I'm sure there's a better way.

I liek inset/extrude foar mah detalez. I also love shift-edge modeling, but it's all personal preferences (I also box/plane model!). I never could get the hand of spline modeling though, it was always too... spliney.
It's all aboot what feeelzzz right though broseph. Also, model looks good! I don't feel like criticizing, because I'm lazy.

I would use shift-edging for the extrusions (as opposed to spline modeling), and proboolean for combining meshes and primitives (like you'll probably do for the scope). Boolean works best for me when the operands are sealed meshes.
e: Forgot to say, this looks goodygood so far. Makes me want to try modeling another one of those concepts, but I haven't the time.
Edited by SlappyThePirate on Nov 25, 2011 at 09:47 PM

I first made a plane (red) then extruded-placed faces, i finished extruding blue part and finally weld everything. I had to replace points 1by1

Edit :



More progress and wireframe... some things are eww...
Edited by bourrin33 on Nov 26, 2011 at 07:41 AM

Some areas are inaccurate. The area near the stock, for instance, isn't separated right. Double-check your references, you'll see it. As far as everything else: not bad. I wouldn't worry too heavily on things looking perfect yet, as smoothing is a major component to things looking nice.

Some of your faces are 'bent' into two differently-shaded triangles... move points around until these faces are lined up right. It helps a lot.

The unsmoothed vertices looking crap and unaligned doesnt really need change, since it would be a loss of time and really hard to make perfect. I'll check this kind of error lastly.

Also, I'm really used to port things in halo and I know it wont be noticeable at all, and even if I replace those it would still be 2 triangles so theres no urge.

It's not just a lack of smoothing, and it does show up weird in halo. They are supposed to be planar, or as close to planar as you can get, so it looks good. Not a very hard fix, just move the verts on the side of the gun on the XY until the shading on the triangles just about match.
You might be right in that it might not be noticeable because it's behind the handle where the hand covers it up.


Edited by SlappyThePirate on Nov 26, 2011 at 12:10 PM

I cant notice the angles on viewports even when making the shader shine. I can only see it when using mental ray renderer... I'll fix that in the end.

more progress :





I'll finish it soon :D
It's made of multiple parts tho., idk if it's fine or not

Looks really good can't wait to see it finished and put in game

...have you modeled stuff before?

He has but has usually box modeled. IF ONLY MY FUUUUUKING 3DS MAX WOULD WORK AND NOT CRASH ON STARTUP. This thread has inspired me to go and model.

Inb4 profanity filter.

In fact for the handle I'll just delete the faces and remake them.

Edit : remade them, here are new pics


Edited by bourrin33 on Nov 29, 2011 at 08:26 AM
Edited by bourrin33 on Nov 29, 2011 at 02:15 PM

looking good, nice and clean.

Thank you. I didnt know how many bullets to use for the magazine, so i modeled some and looked how many could fit it.




The design looks flat on some parts tho, I'd like some suggestions.
Edited by bourrin33 on Nov 29, 2011 at 02:22 PM

im a nub model but still...

I still didnt get why are there shadows here. Its not even following the triangulation of those polies, so excuse me but those areas are good and flat, its just mental ray a bit retarded on my settings

I spy ngons. Otherwise I like the model, will give further crit when I'm not walking around Disney, but it looks preety good otherwise. Off topic: it's oddly cold in Orlando this week, great week to come to Disney.