
Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 04:10 PM
Msg. 1 of 29
E: My fps is fine, it's just that some maps lag if they try to use advanced shadering systems, or if too many things happen at once. Which is probably due to bad rendering systems within the engine. Dennis, you may as well lock this thread if you want. I was tired at the time, and I have no idea why I said that Halo has fps drops. My fps is perfect. Sorry for wasting your time guys. Edited by Jaz on Nov 19, 2011 at 05:53 AMEdited by Jaz on Nov 19, 2011 at 05:54 AM
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UBE Chief
Joined: Sep 28, 2009
Raising the bar, one kill at a time.
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 04:23 PM
Msg. 2 of 29
Halo ran fine on my '02 P4 desktop (on all low settings), it runs fine on my '10 laptop (medium settings) and ridiculously fast on my new '11 dekstop (insta-respawn in SP, anyone? High settings). Dunno why your computer is having issues.
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SeL
Joined: Dec 15, 2010
twitter.com/TeamFalldog
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 04:41 PM
Msg. 3 of 29
Halo doesn't utilize multiple processor cores, because it is an old game, and iirc has an issue with decals on modern nvidia cards, other than that it runs well beyond perfectly afaik!
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 04:46 PM
Msg. 4 of 29
Maybe I should rephrase. What I mean is that Halo runs at a slightly lower fps than newer games. Not majorly lower but slightly lower. The reason I'm so confused at it though is because Halo's not even got modern graphics and the fps is as low as it is on newer games, even when I turn vsync off(What's the point in vsync btw? Newer games shouldn't have it because if your computer has issues with the graphics, you shouldn't playing games with super graphics.). And on certain maps, it crashes after a few scripts are run, such as lockdown on rpg beta 6.2.
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Yoda
Joined: Jan 30, 2011
Do or do not, there is no try
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 05:16 PM
Msg. 5 of 29
Halo runs perfectly on my both my gameing pc and my laptop, what are your specs?
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 05:25 PM
Msg. 6 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: Yoda Halo runs perfectly on my both my gameing pc and my laptop, what are your specs? 4gb ram, 512mb 9500 GT graphics card, and 4ghz processor(I think). Halo runs perfectly for me too, my point is just that it needs optimization so that it can run better graphics as it has lower, or, on some occasions, similar fps to newer games which use far more post processes and far more scripting. E: I may be losing my grasp on how laggy Halo usually is for me though, as I'm currently using a post process mod, xD Edited by Jaz on Nov 18, 2011 at 05:26 PM
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UBE Chief
Joined: Sep 28, 2009
Raising the bar, one kill at a time.
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 05:28 PM
Msg. 7 of 29
For one, if you turn off Vsync, you're either locking it in at 30fps or risking visual tearing on your monitor. Second, what graphics settings are you using? Try putting them at the lowest possible and see if that boosts your fps. For me, even on my old '02 desktop, I placed my monitor refresh rate at 85Hz and Halo's display settings to VSync On and got my 85fps easy. On my newer, '11 desktop, I give it the same settings (although the refresh rate is locked at 60Hz due to me using a four-year-old 50" Plasma HDTV via VGA), and I achieve well over 200fps. For full specs on my new desktop, see this link.I still can't understand why your computer is rejecting Halo so much.
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 05:33 PM
Msg. 8 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: UBE ChiefFor one, if you turn off Vsync, you're either locking it in at 30fps or risking visual tearing on your monitor. Second, what graphics settings are you using? Try putting them at the lowest possible and see if that boosts your fps. For me, even on my old '02 desktop, I placed my monitor refresh rate at 85Hz and Halo's display settings to VSync On and got my 85fps easy. On my newer, '11 desktop, I give it the same settings (although the refresh rate is locked at 60Hz due to me using a four-year-old 50" Plasma HDTV via VGA), and I achieve well over 200fps. For full specs on my new desktop, see this link.I still can't understand why your computer is rejecting Halo so much. I get quite a bit over 100fps without vsync. Dunno how vsync helps you. It just makes the fps worse for me. I turn vsync off on all games and I get no visual tearing, but I do get a significant fps boost. I get over 200fps on newer games, though Neverwinter Nights 2 needs some optimization too. On Halo however, the main problem I'm having is that on some maps, Halo just can't run scripting and it messes up shadows, causing quite a bit of lag. E: Yeah, maybe I should get some sleep and stop posting stupid threads xD Edited by Jaz on Nov 18, 2011 at 05:34 PM
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UBE Chief
Joined: Sep 28, 2009
Raising the bar, one kill at a time.
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 05:44 PM
Msg. 9 of 29
The reason why VSync isn't helping is because you probably have your monitor refresh rate lower than what you have set. Best way to check what rate you have set for your monitor is to do the following: 1) R-Click on your desktop (no windows open) 2) Select and L-Click on Properties 3) Select and L-Click on the Screen Resolution tab (or whatever it is on XP - it's been a while :c) 4) L-Click on Advanced 5) Select and L-Click on the Monitor tab 6) Under "Monitor Settings", there is a drop-down menu on the available refresh rates for your monitor. Select and L-Click the highest refresh rate shown in the drop-down. 7) L-Click on OK until you get back to the desktop.
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 05:44 PM
Msg. 10 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: JazQuote: --- Original message by: UBE ChiefFor one, if you turn off Vsync, you're either locking it in at 30fps or risking visual tearing on your monitor. Second, what graphics settings are you using? Try putting them at the lowest possible and see if that boosts your fps. For me, even on my old '02 desktop, I placed my monitor refresh rate at 85Hz and Halo's display settings to VSync On and got my 85fps easy. On my newer, '11 desktop, I give it the same settings (although the refresh rate is locked at 60Hz due to me using a four-year-old 50" Plasma HDTV via VGA), and I achieve well over 200fps. For full specs on my new desktop, see this link.I still can't understand why your computer is rejecting Halo so much. I get quite a bit over 100fps without vsync. Dunno how vsync helps you. It just makes the fps worse for me. I turn vsync off on all games and I get no visual tearing, but I do get a significant fps boost. I get over 200fps on newer games, though Neverwinter Nights 2 needs some optimization too. On Halo however, the main problem I'm having is that on some maps, Halo just can't run scripting and it messes up shadows, causing quite a bit of lag. E: Yeah, maybe I should get some sleep and stop posting stupid threads xD Edited by Jaz on Nov 18, 2011 at 05:34 PM Vysnc locks the fps at exactly 60 or 30 fps, that way it does not move.
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 05:47 PM
Msg. 11 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: UBE ChiefThe reason why VSync isn't helping is because you probably have your monitor refresh rate lower than what you have set. Best way to check what rate you have set for your monitor is to do the following: 1) R-Click on your desktop (no windows open) 2) Select and L-Click on Properties 3) Select and L-Click on the Screen Resolution tab (or whatever it is on XP - it's been a while :c) 4) L-Click on Advanced 5) Select and L-Click on the Monitor tab 6) Under "Monitor Settings", there is a drop-down menu on the available refresh rates for your monitor. Select and L-Click the highest refresh rate shown in the drop-down. 7) L-Click on OK until you get back to the desktop. My monitor's only available refresh rate is 60Hz.
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UBE Chief
Joined: Sep 28, 2009
Raising the bar, one kill at a time.
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 05:49 PM
Msg. 12 of 29
Same with my laptop, but it can run Halo at a much higher fps than that. Dunno why yours can't :x
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 05:51 PM
Msg. 13 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: UBE Chief Same with my laptop, but it can run Halo at a much higher fps than that. Dunno why yours can't :x Maybe nvidia's already running vsync and it just gets reversed or broken when running it in-game?
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UBE Chief
Joined: Sep 28, 2009
Raising the bar, one kill at a time.
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 05:57 PM
Msg. 14 of 29
ATI FTW then...?
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OrangeJuice
Joined: Jan 29, 2009
Documentation and debug.txt
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 06:19 PM
Msg. 15 of 29
Halo renders 100% of everything through a shader, kinda inefficient. Some of the shaders only worked on the xbox(which can use shaders that don't follow PC standards :D, aka generic, and plasma, and (sometimes)multipurpose), kinda inefficient. The engine was programmed for (maybe...)macintosh, reprogrammed for xbox, ported to PC, It was not optimized for PCs, kinda inefficient.
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Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010
Former biped rigger & FP animator
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 06:46 PM
Msg. 16 of 29
So say if they decided to make anniversary for PC... with everything in PC in mind, optimize, framerate, blah, blah, blah.. would that probably fix everything?
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eliteslasher
Joined: Jun 30, 2008
Crysis 3!!!!!!! All I have to say. :D
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 07:32 PM
Msg. 17 of 29
why is everyone ducking the obvious answer? 10 year anniversary. old coding is old
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SeL
Joined: Dec 15, 2010
twitter.com/TeamFalldog
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 08:04 PM
Msg. 18 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: eliteslasher why is everyone ducking the obvious answer? 10 year anniversary. old coding is old Uhm, read my post lol?
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 08:36 PM
Msg. 19 of 29
You could use XP, my FPS increased by about 50 overall switching from 64 bit W7 to 32 bit XP
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UBE Chief
Joined: Sep 28, 2009
Raising the bar, one kill at a time.
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 09:06 PM
Msg. 20 of 29
He is using XP. Lol.
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xXThePlague1Xx
Joined: Sep 2, 2011
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 10:02 PM
Msg. 21 of 29
Masters your fps got a boost cus W7 is a phat memory hog lol. :)
Anyway idk why Halos running "slower", but I think Nvidia cards have special drivers & settings for new games that give them an edge over ATI (ATI Keeps up with brute power :) ). So maybe Halos to old to have those? Also somebody already posted about decal issues with later Nvidia Cards.
So It could be anything, but your system should have enough Horsepower to run it just fine.
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DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008
All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.
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Posted: Nov 18, 2011 10:44 PM
Msg. 22 of 29
It's your Nvidia driver. Not sure how to fix it (I have an ATI Radeon on both laptops), but try using search some more to see if anyone else has a clue. You may also want to try Modacity.net, mainly because those guys are at least decent at troubleshooting.
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
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Posted: Nov 19, 2011 05:51 AM
Msg. 23 of 29
Maybe I should edit the first post. My fps is fine, it's just that some maps lag if they try to use advanced shadering systems, or if too many things happen at once. Which is probably due to bad rendering systems within the engine.
Dennis, you may as well lock this thread. I was tired at the time, and I have no idea why I said that Halo has fps drops. My fps is perfect.
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TM_updates
Joined: Aug 31, 2011
Superior to you, Superior Musclez near Brussels
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Posted: Nov 19, 2011 05:56 AM
Msg. 24 of 29
The thing about those maps Jaz, is that they are specifically designed to lag for any user that goes by the name of Jaz, or any similar name that hints even remotely at that user being Jaz.
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
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Posted: Nov 19, 2011 06:02 AM
Msg. 25 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: TM_updates The thing about those maps Jaz, is that they are specifically designed to lag for any user that goes by the name of Jaz, or any similar name that hints even remotely at that user being Jaz. But think about the kittens called Jay, or Jaz, or Jazz, or Jaaazzzz!
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TM_updates
Joined: Aug 31, 2011
Superior to you, Superior Musclez near Brussels
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Posted: Nov 19, 2011 06:08 AM
Msg. 26 of 29
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Xoronatus
Joined: Dec 6, 2010
Taking a break
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Posted: Nov 20, 2011 12:18 AM
Msg. 27 of 29
I set my resolution to 640x480 (lowest) and everything else to highest and I get great performance with 30 fps. In H2V, I set my resolution to 800x600 (lowest) and set everything to lowest and get pretty good performance with like 20-30 fps. Edited by Xoronatus on Nov 20, 2011 at 12:19 AM
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
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Posted: Nov 20, 2011 04:36 AM
Msg. 28 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: Xoronatus
I set my resolution to 640x480 (lowest) and everything else to highest and I get great performance with 30 fps. In H2V, I set my resolution to 800x600 (lowest) and set everything to lowest and get pretty good performance with like 20-30 fps. Edited by Xoronatus on Nov 20, 2011 at 12:19 AM I actually find that higher resolutions look better than higher shader quality, so I'd do the opposite to you if I had your computer.
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eliteslasher
Joined: Jun 30, 2008
Crysis 3!!!!!!! All I have to say. :D
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Posted: Nov 20, 2011 11:01 PM
Msg. 29 of 29
Quote: --- Original message by: SeLQuote: --- Original message by: eliteslasher why is everyone ducking the obvious answer? 10 year anniversary. old coding is old Uhm, read my post lol? LOL, I must've missed it. Yeah, pretty much that covers it.
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