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ODST72
Joined: Jul 19, 2010

Where's the rest of your platoon?


Posted: Nov 16, 2011 03:03 PM    Msg. 1 of 5       
i made a map but when i try to turn iit in to a bsp it tells me thisbuilding intermediate geometry...

building collision geometry...
### ERROR couldn't update edge #506 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #506 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #551 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #562 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #136 (red).
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### ERROR couldn't update edge #600 (red).
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### ERROR couldn't update edge #602 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #779 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #614 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #574 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #613 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #131 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #785 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #34 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #737 (red).
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### ERROR couldn't update edge #768 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #300 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #786 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #715 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #303 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #762 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #129 (red).
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### ERROR couldn't update edge #779 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #27 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #769 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #770 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #32 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #794 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #777 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #739 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #316 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #740 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #29 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #767 (red).
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### ERROR couldn't update edge #788 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #306 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #714 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #777 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #568 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #737 (red).
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### ERROR couldn't update edge #714 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #715 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #24 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #762 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #739 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #38 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #740 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #766 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #766 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #294 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #794 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #738 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #566 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #602 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #770 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #315 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #767 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #39 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #786 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #788 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #128 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #562 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #785 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #874 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #319 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #769 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #41 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #576 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #874 (red).
### ERROR failed to build collision geometry.
### ERROR failed to import collision bsp.
Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'


OrangeJuice
Joined: Jan 29, 2009

Documentation and debug.txt


Posted: Nov 16, 2011 05:27 PM    Msg. 2 of 5       
If you are using alot of glass or grate shaders, they're probably too close to other objects, that's all I know about update-edges.

Someone else should know more about this


CAG Gonzo
Joined: Apr 2, 2009

Retreat? Hell! We just got here!


Posted: Nov 17, 2011 12:55 PM    Msg. 3 of 5       
Update edge error means you have three or more faces sharing an edge. Picture a rectangular prism; at any given edge, you have two faces, like so, sharing an edge:
_____
|
|

But what's this? A third face butted in, sharing that edge:

_____
|\
| \ <---fix this

Halo can only handle two faces per edge. Any tag-along faces need to be deleted and remade elsewhere. These errors commonly occur when you make, say, a small tunnel and put a face in front to prevent the player from accessing it, i.e. the tunnel is for design purposes only. Well now you have an issue: you have the floor on the outside of the tunnel, the floor on the inside of the tunnel, AND the tunnel guard (the face denying player access) all sharing one edge, like so:

_____|_____________

The vertical face must be either moved (but that's not what you want in this case, as it would result in open edges, or other errors depending upon how you decide to maintain the tunnel's seal), OR you select all the inaccessible faces (those comprising the tunnel) and set their material IDs to a non-collidable ID, i.e. add '!' to said ID's name. The '!' is a shader symbol recognized by Halo that instructs it to render any geometry with that symbol as render-only. Thus, when you compile your map in tool, that geometry will only be processed for rendering. When it builds the collision BSP, it will not look at any faces with a material that has '!' in its name.

Selecting all vertices and welding to a low threshold may solve your problems, but it is not guaranteed to work. Welding typically solves open edge errors. Update edge errors are different, and the methods I listed above can be used to correct them. Of course, those are not the only methods available.
Edited by CAG Gonzo on Nov 17, 2011 at 12:57 PM


Nickster5000
Joined: Dec 11, 2010


Posted: Nov 17, 2011 09:05 PM    Msg. 4 of 5       
Or... You rendered it in editable poly. You need to render it as an editable MESH.


Wolf_
Joined: May 16, 2006


Posted: Nov 18, 2011 03:55 PM    Msg. 5 of 5       
Quote: --- Original message by: ODST_Nick
Or... You rendered it in editable poly. You need to render it as an editable MESH.
This is most likely the problem. You will still have errors after though. Or maybe you did something wrong in the model, in which case you will just have to start fixing.

 

 
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