You're wrong. You're basically saying "we know more than you" without any background of my knowledge of the game to base that on. It's an assumption, and a false one. You think I don't have a copy of custom edition, that I never use 3ds max, that I don't create maps using sapien and tool, but you're wrong. I've done all that, and more. Take my advice and stop posting here if you're not interested in the topic at hand, you're just making a fool of yourself.




YOU'RE SO TOTALLY WRONG IT'S HILARIOUS. I'M GUESSING YOU DIDN'T NOTICE THE CREDIT TEXT. This trick was not done by me alone. It was done, on several occasions, by groups of trickers in the game. There are over 36 different individual trickers, who do what they do without mods, hacks, devmode, cheats, etc. who were involved in the making of this trick. And, there are thousands of people out there who have taken pride in doing tricks without cheating, modding, or hacking over the last 10 years. High Impact Halo stands as a monument to this fact, and jumprs.org as attests the practice still lives. Open your eyes. The only people who don't care are those who are raging about it here. Do some research, and see the other responses I got to this. You'll find almost all of the negative responses emanate from this forum, this community. You can be certain I won't be posting such a thing here again, because it's clear you're all immature, jealous, little kids, who can't understand not using cheats in a game because you can only understand how to do things the easy way. You know nothing of challenge, of journey, or of discovery. You are flat, lifeless, foolish, blind, modders. Though there are a few in this community who do not fall under this description, it would seem they are far outspoken by those who do.

Good day, ignoramus


-Mator

I don't get it, If you're so much in proving the others wrong, what is your side, and what DO YOU know about this "trick/glitch". How is this possible? I'm asking you, Mator.
Edited by XlzQwerty1 on Aug 22, 2011 at 12:06 PM

ok then sir. Please tell us how the game works.
Because we just have years modding ce, and we are just ignorant people.
Edited by Mangenkyo on Aug 22, 2011 at 01:23 PM

Yet again, you may have 36 trickers helping you, but there are thousands of Halo players that just don't care if those 36 trickers can do a trick the hard way. It may be interesting to watch your method, but in the end you're adding a little bit of pointless knowledge to people's minds, and taking away their own hopes of taking pride from doing a trick the hard way. I'm sure there are lots of people interested in you doing a trick the hard way. But they're probably all trickers themselves, and I'm sure they'd be quite annoyed to have the plan shown to them so that they can't work it out themselves.

This community develops the best Halo CE maps there are. So if I were you, I'd pay a little bit more respect.

I only saw 1 trick in the video utilizing a ghost and a grenade as many people in halo 3 video would do to get super high. My head isn't scratching. Though its nice that you are able to share.

all these trick below doesnt require 300% health( theres no way you can survive from that many grenades thrown at you)

The only other tricks ive seen on youtube is grenade jumping, and using the ejecting of a sideways moving ghost.

I only know two tricks on my own. Betraying on danger canyon with friendly fire off; ramming your team through the map with a ghost (which I know alot of people know about it). Now the second one that I learned is gonna be kept secret.
It uses a tank on death island, if anyone knows what I'm talking about I'll give you a cookie, cuz I havent heard this trick from anyone else.

Anyways, the real tricks in halo ce are the ones that map makers use to make their maps fully working: fp legs, syncing ai, man canon, etc. These are the toughest and greatest tricks that benefits the whole hale ce universe and community.

I use to glitch pokemon games all the time, its fun until the music changes.

exactly! :)

In the final video, I shall explain it completely. I'm not going to spoil it now. Be a bit patient and you will get the explanation as I have promised.




How the trick* works. That's the thing, there's different knowledge floating around here. My knowledge is specifically applicable to doing/creating/understanding tricks. The knowledge of a modder/map maker would be more applicable to creating maps or creating custom models. Our knowledge may be similar in some ways, but it retains it's differences. I'm simply saying he was jumping to a conclusion without any evidence to base it on, and could very likely be wrong. You can find out as much when the final video comes out including my detailed explanation of how the trick works. I'm sure you modding types will understand most of the ideas behind it quite well, with familiarity in all of it save that which involves glitches in Halo's netcode (because I'm pretty sure no one has modded that...)




Thousand of Halo: Custom Edition modders**, primarily. But then again, who are you to speak for the masses? I can tell you that there are also equally many Halo players who appreciate seeing a side of the game they didn't know existed, or seeing what the tricking community has managed to pull off next. I spread my video to every corner of the internet as pertained to Halo, and it seems to have 50% likes and 50% dislikes. If those who have seen the video represent the Halo population accurately... need I go on? And when you add in the fact that nothing was explained in the trailer and no one knows who I am I'd say that's a pretty darn good statistic. Imagine the results on the final video, where things are explained. (The explanation will be in a separate video, like how DemonStrate did Portal Done Pro).

Also, it's been a part of Halo tricking culture to publish videos showing your greatest accomplishements/new tricks, including the method used, so others can build on what you have found. It's an ever-evolving, ever-growing knowledge base, with each generation of trickers knowing a bit more than the generation before (so long as the generation before did a good job passing down their knowledge).

I know what this community does, but the treatment I've been receiving from it certainly does not put it in a good light. I've respected Halo: Custom Edition map makers for a long time now, and it is only given this thread that I question that respect. (Though perhaps I shouldn't let the actions of the few create in my mind a judgement upon the many, that's stereotype, and is wrong. Though I would still recommend those who disagree with the few who are so ruthlessly attacking me to speak out. For your own image.)




Your English isn't very good, but I'll try to understand and respond. Correct me if I interpret anything wrong:

You say you saw only one trick in the video. I'm afraid there are 5 different tricks shown in the video, which go into making a Ghost Froom. I won't explain these because I don't want to spoil this, again, please be patient for the final video.

So you're comparing this to Halo 3? I don't think this is similar to Halo 3 in any way. In Halo 3 a few explosives can yield a lot of power. In Halo 1, it takes much more to do the same. One plasma grenade in Halo 3 = three plasma grenades in Halo 1, pretty much.

Your head would be scratching if you had enough background in Halo 1 to understand what you were seeing.

I don't know what you mean by "all these trick below doesn't require 300% health." That makes absolutely no sense to me. In the server I have 800% health and friendly fire is off (which would explain surviving large explosions).

The rest of your post becomes a mystery to me past this. What the developers do to sync AI or whatever else isn't tricking, or glitching, that's game development. That's a totally different playing field with totally different rules, and shouldn't be brought into the discussion.

Saying just "Tank" and "Death Island" leaves around 80 different possible tricks/glitches you could be talking about. You could be launching the tank onto a tree, pushing someone into a rock, pushing a ghost out of the map, balancing the tank on a rock, etc.

And, if you truly know of so few tricks, I wouldn't think it'd be wise of you to try to make sense of this video. It's complex even for those with very extensive backgrounds in tricking to understand, because it's not meant to be understood. Pretty much the only people with the background necessary to understand what this trick is from this "teaser" trailer alone are those who were directly involved with it.

A guy over at jumprs.org was glitching Pokemon Blue for a time. I think he did something like getting all 151 pokedex without getting any badges in a run. He named it WDNNSB: 151 Pokedex, 0 Badges. I don't know anything about Pokemon so I don't know anything about that, but it was still pretty cool. http://jumprs.org/forum/showthread.php?788-WDNNSB-151-Pokedex-0-Badges


-Mator
Edited by Mator on Aug 22, 2011 at 07:32 PM
Edited by Mator on Aug 22, 2011 at 07:34 PM

Enough arguments. If you are interested in the trick video then feel free to post. If you are not then ignore the thread. Simple.

Why do you care what people think about it when you are just doing it for the challenge? I know the feeling of accomplishing something, video is cool can't wait to see how you did it :P.

I prefer stunts where you need 1/2 players to do it, anymore and usually people just stop caring about the trick to actually do it.

Any trick done is most likely not due to halo's netcode. All it does is relay information between a client and server. The only information being passed to the server from the client is movement, aiming vector and controls. None of which could cause a glitch. As well all physics calculations are done on the server based on the input so the client doesn't really have any say in the matter, unlike games such as h2 and up.
Edited by Sprinkle on Aug 22, 2011 at 11:13 PM

i think its time to post the Deadly stunters video again mator ^_^

While I did it just for the challenge, it's always nice when the community appreciates your work as well. The point of this video (the trailer) is to build up anticipation. It didn't do that for everyone.

It's true that it can be hard to do stunts/tricks involving more than a handful of players due to the lack of control/direction larger groups tend to have. However, we have managed to work with extremely large groups doing extremely complex and detailed operations in which each individual player is but a cog in a vast machine (or a rung in a tall ladder: see The Final Act - playlist of four video parts).

I know what Halo's netcode does. In fact, I probably know it better than just about every Halo player out there. It's been a main focus in my studies/advancements in the Halo tricking world. In addition to sending information on movement and aiming/vector controls the netcode also controls when a player fires their weapon, when they throw a grenade, the explosion of plasma grenades stuck to a player (this is due to the complications involved with making this variable managed by the host), etc. I won't go into details here, I don't want people to connect the dots yet.




I dunno... I think they can find it if they want to see it. Or you can post it, if you want. :|

You should go and find Ms. Man's halo videos :)

This topic is tempting me to hook up my old xbox just to play halo.

I've seen every single one of them, and I've reuploaded most of them to YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/h1stunting#p/c/2455BD3FFDEA508B/4/Es6ENVywnzo




Halo CE still has some active trickers, join in anytime you want. :)


-Mator
Edited by Mator on Aug 26, 2011 at 01:02 PM

Exact same reaction in this thread as the one on Modacity.

There are more positive reactions over at modacity. Though I have to admit it is a little interesting, the one posting it makes it lose some shine. I doubt I will be watching this when it's coming out, I would if it was something like LBYL.
Edited by Wolf_ on Aug 27, 2011 at 04:50 AM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

What have I done to make it lose some shine? :(

Also, it's not like LBYL in the fact that it's not trick jumping - which is a bit more straightforward. However, I hope you will at least watch some of the explanation video to see if it is indeed interesting and legitimate, as I have claimed. Perhaps given some understanding of the trick people will respect it more. At least, that's my hope.


-Mator