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rassilon
Joined: Apr 5, 2011


Posted: Apr 15, 2011 03:02 PM    Msg. 36 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: SeL
It's not just far from perfect, it's visually bland, and if that's as far as you intend to take anything you make you're letting yourself, and everyone else you're showing this to down.

Has it occurred to you that maybe I don't particularly want the base to be filled with multi colours?
There are plenty of examples where Forerunner was a mix of silver, grey and blue lighting such as the sentinel wall.
Just because this construct doesn't fit to the Halo 3 standard of brown and khaki metals in every corner doesn't mean it's deviating from the Forerunner stereotype.
I'm willing to take advices and tip's but I'm not going to pander to everything down to exactly which color mixture I use.
In the cryengine build I plan on having some marker flares which will break up the monotonous grey.

Edited by rassilon on Apr 15, 2011 at 03:03 PM


SeL
Joined: Dec 15, 2010

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Posted: Apr 15, 2011 03:18 PM    Msg. 37 of 107       
You can sit here posting about areas where bungie didn't put much effort forward to justify you doing the same, and making everything the same boring gray, with splashes of blue, or you can improve it. The choice is your's.
Edited by SeL on Apr 15, 2011 at 03:18 PM


R93_Sniper
Joined: Feb 13, 2011

When in Doubt, RUN!


Posted: Apr 17, 2011 12:53 AM    Msg. 38 of 107       
any plan of releasing the Actual model soon? or are you still trying to build further up on it

Also SeL, it may have been Bungie's lazyness, but not everybody who looks at the map will scrutenize every little detail of each object. only mappers and play testers do that. along with that, the lighting and detaling system of crysis is very different than that of halo, so the way it looks will be very different


rassilon
Joined: Apr 5, 2011


Posted: Apr 17, 2011 07:06 AM    Msg. 39 of 107       
It's a small room, it doesn't need any more than 3 colors in the color palette.
If the room was larger then I would agree to use more varying colors but it's not and it's currently fitting the scheme I've aimed for.
There are some UV errors that require fixing but that is as far as it's going.
As for the model being released, I plan on releasing this on Crymod forums first which will be back up anywhere between tomorrow and Friday.
They are currently doing maintenance so now it's down to when they re-open.


abkarch
Joined: Mar 20, 2010

This account is old. Sorry for inappropriate posts


Posted: Apr 17, 2011 08:01 AM    Msg. 40 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: SeL

You can sit here posting about areas where bungie didn't put much effort forward to justify you doing the same, and making everything the same boring gray, with splashes of blue, or you can improve it. The choice is your's.
Edited by SeL on Apr 15, 2011 at 03:18 PM


Or, you can let him make his work how he wants to make it.
PERSONALLY, i think it looks awesome. i would use that in maps in a heart beat.
if you dont like it, you dont have to use it.

Seriously, dude, PLEASE get that into CE, especially with the lighting. :D


R93_Sniper
Joined: Feb 13, 2011

When in Doubt, RUN!


Posted: Apr 17, 2011 07:21 PM    Msg. 41 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
Seriously, dude, PLEASE get that into CE, especially with the lighting. :D


You know, problem is, Crysis has one insane kind of lighting system. Halo wont ever be able to handle it. You can mimmic it to a certain point (which hopefully is whats gonna be happening), but you cant get an exact replica.

Quote: --- Original message by: rassilon
As for the model being released, I plan on releasing this on Crymod forums first which will be back up anywhere between tomorrow and Friday.
They are currently doing maintenance so now it's down to when they re-open.


Whenever you get that released, please, PLEASE give me that link, would love to use it in a map
Edited by R93_Sniper on Apr 17, 2011 at 07:22 PM


rassilon
Joined: Apr 5, 2011


Posted: Apr 29, 2011 04:31 PM    Msg. 42 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: R93_Sniper


Whenever you get that released, please, PLEASE give me that link, would love to use it in a map
Edited by R93_Sniper on Apr 17, 2011 at 07:22 PM

Crymod still hasn't reopened so once it has I'll let everyone here know.
Whilst I've been waiting I've started on something else.
This currently has no UV's as the model is still incomplete how ever, the idea should be easy to understand.


R93_Sniper
Joined: Feb 13, 2011

When in Doubt, RUN!


Posted: Apr 30, 2011 09:17 PM    Msg. 43 of 107       
You know, technically you could simply release the model of that base on the 3D Model section of halomaps. You'll eventually have somebody (maybe and most likely me) pick up that model, use it in a map, or even take it in as scenery and release the tags. You can simply have alternatives you know.

As for that new structure, are you aiming to have it similar to the tunnels from that tunnel in forge world? or is it a base of some sort. Which is it?

Also, i'm all up for cool forerunner stuff and lighting effects, but for posting this on the halomaps forums, is any of this halo friendly? a Map's BSP can have at max, 80,000 polys, and thats pushing the envelope into a mailbox that it does NOT need to be in, especially if you're wasting 50% of it on a pair of bases.

Are those Electrical feilds running through the inside of the doors? 0.o


Ubergoober
Joined: Oct 11, 2010


Posted: May 1, 2011 03:54 AM    Msg. 44 of 107       
ras, ur pics look awesome, i hope u have some more to show us soon.
sel, ras doesnt need to create things to our expectations, we need to be grateful that he has decided to share his creations with us. ur a perfectionist sel, relax a lil :)


rassilon
Joined: Apr 5, 2011


Posted: May 2, 2011 12:33 PM    Msg. 45 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: R93_Sniper
You know, technically you could simply release the model of that base on the 3D Model section of halomaps. You'll eventually have somebody (maybe and most likely me) pick up that model, use it in a map, or even take it in as scenery and release the tags. You can simply have alternatives you know.

Yes, I know.
The issue is that Crymod is where I originally set this project out at so it would be disrespectful to not let them get first picks on it all.
I'm sure you can probably understand why I would give a community who has been waiting for over a year on this project a quicker chance than one I only registered last month at.


As for that new structure, are you aiming to have it similar to the tunnels from that tunnel in forge world? or is it a base of some sort. Which is it?

The mesh you see there is only the forerunner metal portion which would work for CE since the rocks you see are prefabs created by Crytek.
Think of the cliff entrances seen on assault on the control room and you'll know what I mean.

Also, i'm all up for cool forerunner stuff and lighting effects, but for posting this on the halomaps forums, is any of this halo friendly? a Map's BSP can have at max, 80,000 polys, and thats pushing the envelope into a mailbox that it does NOT need to be in, especially if you're wasting 50% of it on a pair of bases.
The entrance mesh is currently around 1400 triangles, not much but it doesn't need to be much.
The base how ever is approximate 9000 triangles weighing in at 8588 triangles.
Not super heavy and more than fine for CE.
The reason I'm working with Cryengine and not Blam is because I want to learn a current generation engine and not a dinosaur from a long gone era.


Are those Electrical feilds running through the inside of the doors? 0.o

Yes those fields are embedded into the doors, they also flicker and fade as well as stopping bullets but letting players pass.


UBE Chief
Joined: Sep 28, 2009

Raising the bar, one kill at a time.


Posted: May 2, 2011 12:40 PM    Msg. 46 of 107       
Can those work in CE? :o


R93_Sniper
Joined: Feb 13, 2011

When in Doubt, RUN!


Posted: May 2, 2011 03:31 PM    Msg. 47 of 107       
kk, i understand what you're trying to say Ras. Though, my statement stands: Will this be released after you get it up on crymod or what?


Ubergoober
Joined: Oct 11, 2010


Posted: May 13, 2011 09:27 AM    Msg. 48 of 107       
well this thread went quiet all of a sudden, whats crackin ras?


Karima Narstrom
Joined: Nov 12, 2010

Galloping along the hilltop rode the Narstrom....


Posted: May 13, 2011 09:32 AM    Msg. 49 of 107       
He's probably busy with real life


cyboryxmen
Joined: Nov 7, 2010

--CG artist-- New mission. Refuse this Mission!


Posted: May 13, 2011 09:56 AM    Msg. 50 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: Karima Narstrom
He's probably busy with real life


Good for him. After my exams are over, I am never busy with real life . Mind you, I still do my own chores.
-Zekilk


XboxHavic
Joined: May 8, 2011

-Modder- -Gamer-


Posted: May 16, 2011 05:50 PM    Msg. 51 of 107       
subscribed


rassilon
Joined: Apr 5, 2011


Posted: May 17, 2011 08:54 PM    Msg. 52 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: Ubergoober
well this thread went quiet all of a sudden, whats crackin ras?

I would imagine the ground is cracking right about now, whilst it's being glassed and all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV6TNfq76zs&feature=player_embedded


XboxHavic
Joined: May 8, 2011

-Modder- -Gamer-


Posted: May 17, 2011 09:00 PM    Msg. 53 of 107       
you better be putting that in halo. thats amazing

that makes me want to go out and buy crysis right now.
Edited by XboxHavic on May 17, 2011 at 09:04 PM


SeL
Joined: Dec 15, 2010

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Posted: May 17, 2011 09:35 PM    Msg. 54 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: rassilon
Quote: --- Original message by: Ubergoober
well this thread went quiet all of a sudden, whats crackin ras?

I would imagine the ground is cracking right about now, whilst it's being glassed and all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV6TNfq76zs&feature=player_embedded


OH LOL ITS YOU

I should have guessed as much when you totally disregarded feedback hahahah


rassilon
Joined: Apr 5, 2011


Posted: May 17, 2011 09:52 PM    Msg. 55 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: SeL

OH LOL ITS YOU

I should have guessed as much when you totally disregarded feedback hahahah




Kind of anti-climatic knowing who I was.


XboxHavic
Joined: May 8, 2011

-Modder- -Gamer-


Posted: May 17, 2011 11:49 PM    Msg. 56 of 107       
i dont get it who is he.


rassilon
Joined: Apr 5, 2011


Posted: May 18, 2011 09:31 AM    Msg. 57 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: XboxHavic
i dont get it who is he.

Someone who Selentic has made a habit of hounding due to his intolerance on our disagreements.
Nothing more, Nothing less.


SeL
Joined: Dec 15, 2010

twitter.com/TeamFalldog


Posted: May 18, 2011 10:11 AM    Msg. 58 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: rassilon
Quote: --- Original message by: XboxHavic
i dont get it who is he.

Someone who Selentic has made a habit of hounding due to his intolerance on our disagreements.
Nothing more, Nothing less.


Wrong, you're an idiot who ignores any feedback that is actually legitimately telling you what you're doing wrong, so you can just bask in the comfort of people who don't know what they're talking about saying it's the best thing they've ever seen.

nice try though!
Edited by SeL on May 18, 2011 at 10:13 AM


rassilon
Joined: Apr 5, 2011


Posted: May 18, 2011 10:45 AM    Msg. 59 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: SeL


Wrong, you're an idiot who ignores any feedback that is actually legitimately telling you what you're doing wrong, so you can just bask in the comfort of people who don't know what they're talking about saying it's the best thing they've ever seen.



Incorrect.
Considering there are plenty of people on Crymod who know far more about game development than yourself I would imagine listening to them would be far more worthy than listening to a egotistical intolerant fanatic whose sole belief is their opinion is the only one there is.
Nice try, but no cigar.


cyboryxmen
Joined: Nov 7, 2010

--CG artist-- New mission. Refuse this Mission!


Posted: May 18, 2011 11:13 AM    Msg. 60 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: rassilon
Quote: --- Original message by: SeL


Wrong, you're an idiot who ignores any feedback that is actually legitimately telling you what you're doing wrong, so you can just bask in the comfort of people who don't know what they're talking about saying it's the best thing they've ever seen.



Incorrect.
Considering there are plenty of people on Crymod who know far more about game development than yourself I would imagine listening to them would be far more worthy than listening to a egotistical intolerant fanatic whose sole belief is their opinion is the only one there is.
Nice try, but no cigar.


Smoking is bad for your health.

Isn't Lodex the guy that ripped the halo 3 elite bipeds and cause a troll fest because he...rip? Yea, didn't see any point of that discussion. If I remember correctly, that's where Sergent Johnson posted his first comic which will later lead to his ban.

-Zekilk


SeL
Joined: Dec 15, 2010

twitter.com/TeamFalldog


Posted: May 18, 2011 02:19 PM    Msg. 61 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: rassilon
Quote: --- Original message by: SeL


Wrong, you're an idiot who ignores any feedback that is actually legitimately telling you what you're doing wrong, so you can just bask in the comfort of people who don't know what they're talking about saying it's the best thing they've ever seen.



Incorrect.
Considering there are plenty of people on Crymod who know far more about game development than yourself I would imagine listening to them would be far more worthy than listening to a egotistical intolerant fanatic whose sole belief is their opinion is the only one there is.
Nice try, but no cigar.


Funny, since I read that thread, and the one person actually giving you negative feedback instead of telling you it looked amazing was called a troll by you and a bunch of other people and eventually forced out of the thread by you and your idiot paparazzi.
:)


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: May 18, 2011 02:59 PM    Msg. 62 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: cyboryxmen

Isn't Lodex the guy that ripped the halo 3 elite bipeds and cause a troll fest because he...rip?


no


rassilon
Joined: Apr 5, 2011


Posted: May 18, 2011 03:27 PM    Msg. 63 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: SeL

Funny, since I read that thread, and the one person actually giving you negative feedback instead of telling you it looked amazing was called a troll by you and a bunch of other people and eventually forced out of the thread by you and your idiot paparazzi.
:)

Funny, because I wasn't aware the forum thread was the only form of communication on Crymod.
Private messages, Instant messaging and E-mails are used as well.
My point stands firm, to pretend that you have higher qualified and better suited at giving advice on a forum filled with real developers on the engine creators own public website is far fetched at best and delusional at worst.


SeL
Joined: Dec 15, 2010

twitter.com/TeamFalldog


Posted: May 18, 2011 03:32 PM    Msg. 64 of 107       
Anyone who thinks your garbage is good isn't a professional game designer, regardless of whether they hold that title or not.

I hope I cleared this up for you.


XboxHavic
Joined: May 8, 2011

-Modder- -Gamer-


Posted: May 18, 2011 03:47 PM    Msg. 65 of 107       
i dont think anyone here is a professional game designer.


SlappyThePirate
Joined: Aug 24, 2009

You are irritating, I'll release nothing


Posted: May 18, 2011 03:50 PM    Msg. 66 of 107       
Sel made trains and does a lot of level design, albeit his comment about professional game designing is rather blunt.


rassilon
Joined: Apr 5, 2011


Posted: May 18, 2011 04:53 PM    Msg. 67 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: SlappyThePirate
Sel made trains and does a lot of level design, albeit his comment about professional game designing is rather blunt.


He makes a lot of level designs for a 7 year old game, The people at Crymod are making designs for a 3 year old game which an engine which was unparalleled for years in terms of technology held withing said engine.
The Cryengine isn't the only engine I've worked on, the difference is I kept what I made for personal use AKA LAN and private servers.


Quote: --- Original message by: SeL
Anyone who thinks your garbage is good isn't a professional game designer, regardless of whether they hold that title or not.


That has got to be the most ignorant comment to have come from your narrow tunneled mind yet.
So a professional developer that has a recognized position is apparently not because an amateur on a fan forum for a 7 year old game says so?
Seriously get over yourself.
I'm happy for you in that you managed to sell your trains to Valve for TF2 and all but don't let it go to your head.
There is a difference between constructive advice and malicious spite, thus far all you have done is the latter and barely of the former.
I'd suggest you avoid this thread from now on lest this discussion derails further but we both know you cannot tolerate not getting the last word in.


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: May 18, 2011 04:58 PM    Msg. 68 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: rassilon
Quote: --- Original message by: SeL

Funny, since I read that thread, and the one person actually giving you negative feedback instead of telling you it looked amazing was called a troll by you and a bunch of other people and eventually forced out of the thread by you and your idiot paparazzi.
:)

Funny, because I wasn't aware the forum thread was the only form of communication on Crymod.
Private messages, Instant messaging and E-mails are used as well.
My point stands firm, to pretend that you have higher qualified and better suited at giving advice on a forum filled with real developers on the engine creators own public website is far fetched at best and delusional at worst.


i'm pretty sure crymod isn't full of professional game designers if they were praising halo 3 rips and conversions not to long ago


rassilon
Joined: Apr 5, 2011


Posted: May 18, 2011 05:00 PM    Msg. 69 of 107       
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy


i'm pretty sure crymod isn't full of professional game designers if they were praising halo 3 rips and conversions not to long ago

I'm pretty sure as soon as the rips were known about the member was banned for said rip.
In fact, the forum has a policy of not showcasing work not your own or risk penalty.


SeL
Joined: Dec 15, 2010

twitter.com/TeamFalldog


Posted: May 18, 2011 05:11 PM    Msg. 70 of 107       
neurological6
haha what a dumbass
thats warlord?

neurological6
tell him i worked on crysis2, and i tell him to stuff it lol

^

hth :)
Edited by SeL on May 18, 2011 at 05:11 PM

 
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