you don't have to go to school to get into the industry as long as you have the talent. you can be self-taught. granted, it's easier going through school because you pay to get proper direction and assignments

Wrong.

Nobody with at least a half functioning brain will hire somebody who doesn't have school experience and a degree. That's like saying you can become a judge by watching Family Court all day long.

you can be self-employed.

yeah I guess all those little companies out there all have the highest grade of professional developers who all have degrees and have worked on dozens of triple A games

Actually... no.

Your wrong. Developers don't care how you got your education. It all boils down to if you can do the job with skill or not. If you can do it better then the guy who actually went to college for it, you'll get the job. Have you ever looked at any top developing companies when their hiring? Almost none of them ask as a requirement or a plus for a college level education.

Though I'll probably be going to college so I have a degree in this, practicing on your own is the best way your going to learn and actually become experienced in just about anything, not just video game development.

Umm.. I am pretty sure they do. Bungie is a great example. :p

Most studios do not require a college degree to get in, portfolios are what are looked at when it comes to getting into Game Industry. A degree means absolutely nothing to studios since many people who have them don't actually have the talent to create good work.

you guys are retarded if you think a degree means somebody is artistically talented

uh, what's to lol at? college is a very good way to get direction

Most company's require a degree or at least 10 years experience. A person with a degree is more likely to get the job then someone without a degree.

pretty much this

a college degree is good for direct and faster involvement and learning. thats about it.

also bungie does not require a college degree when it comes to most of their jobs, i haven't looked at any programing things though. mission designer did not require one, neither did 3d artist. in both jobs they look at your portfolio and also give you "homework". in mission designer, you had to create an entire document of a halo styled level with drawings and everything. 3d artist was given a piece of concept art and they had to model and texture it the best they could.

obviously, they're looking for skills, not a degree to be "certified". your not certified for the job until you've proven to the employer that you are.

Having a Degree does not make you an artist, but it helps you understand new techniques and understand concepts that are rarely self taught.

For 3d in bungie:

Undergraduate degree or completion of a certificate program that provides an education in the fundamentals of art.

As for level design, you are right.

My point is, now a days most people are hired because of degrees. Yes, you get hired if you are very talented, but most people that go through art school are very talented and want to further there knowledge. So you most likely will be put aside, because the guy next to do you has a degree and a lot of work to show that is most likely very good. I'm not talking about the guys that come out of an art school and aren't that good, because game companies don't just take randoms, they take the best of the best (If they can that is).

Plus, in most art schools, co-op is provided, meaning you get experience, putting you ahead of the game again.

josh is indeed correct!~

we call those people junkyard mechanics and mc dick workers

everyone hired in the gaming industry that got their career without a degree were in there when it first kicked off, such for Bungie Studios which had kicked off with a programmer and an enthusiest.

plus, what self-respecting company hires a kid without ANY college training and NO way to show that know their work. Plus, its more than just what you know, its how you apply it.

I worked for a small game company, unpaid, volunteer, over the internet, you know what? I made concept models on sketchup, and my pay was $0. Yup, self taught, small company (1 owner, and that was it), and the game is now a kicking MMORPG with still 1 guy.

Want to become a game developer without any schooling? start a comp....wait... you need a business degree? lol
Edited by KillerKip1 on Mar 4, 2011 at 12:49 AM

Thought this conversation was dead but Kip you just said it yourself that you worked for a company without a degree. And company's don't hire "kids" in general if your not 18 no one in any industry is going to hand you a contract.

I've been at GDC the past two days and you know what all the companies say, "We want to see things that make us go WOW!" < That's the only requirement.
Edited by YakZSmelk on Mar 4, 2011 at 02:28 AM

Bump as people have made another two of these threads. Should be stickied Dennis :)

Stickyed? There are already a thread for vehicles weapons and bipeds WIP. And there is the Semi-Offical for everything else which is as good as stickyed.

Yeah but this is a good thread for Halo:Reach things.

Relevant? I think so.
As you can clearly see, my flippin' falcon has a "campaign" style gun on teh front.
Sorry, I just felt like posting in here, I'll come back later, with some "Sabre" pics (Without a texture, OMG!), and maybe some shortsword pics, too, if I'm feeling nice. If I'm feeling really nice, I just might show some of the changes to my Mass Driver.

Sincerely,

Amazingcuzimnot

@ Amazingcuziam: About the falcon: howbout a full pic?

Later, I'll have to render on, later, g2g atm.

have a reach magnum, plasma pistol, needle rifle, plasma rifle, and am doing plasma repeater. (Some of the models are from the roject for CE my friend Chris and I are doing, specifically the NR+PR.)

I was wondering... I'm not really too keen about the Reach weps, but is there a good falcon out, or being made? Just cause I'd love to see it in multiplayer. It'd suit Sidewinder very well... or Death Island...

I doubt it would on Death Island, but maybe Sidewinder or Extinction...
Anyway, yes, there is a good falcon model that went ingame, but the problem was that you couldn't have two separate people control two separate guns on the vehicle, due to Halo's engine.

lol someone strying to copy me.
I have a billion guesses who. Yeah, you tight.

And no, those are mine, not FRMT's

i think that the reach dmr and ar that imbrokeru did are the best.

ar and dmr seem to be the ones ppl want to make the most.

and HaloIsAHorribleGane is right you don't have to go to school look at imbrokeru he
was self-taught.
Edited by Spectre_the_grunt on Jul 16, 2011 at 01:48 AM

Umm why do you guys keep dissing us?

hilaris

Hilaris might be annoying at times(most of the time) but he's harmless.
-Zekilk

annoying is enough for people to hate him.

I thought Hiralis wasn't in our team anymore? Or...

I thought he thought he was the ultimate ruler

He's an idiot. You don't want him in your team.

I'm trying to make a Reach Rocket Hog, but I sure I won't be able to make it epic as this: http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4272/rockethog6.jpg
... So yeah... I'z be back with stuffz later.

good luck!