so i heard you cant compress maps to .rar or something.

This needs a video demo, because as far as I can tell it's just CMT weapons in Bloodgulch with randomly placed AI.

Take vid of more advanced, improved AI, and maybe I'll download.

omfg blood gulch mod ftw!

I see AI walking to move positions. That's not really intelligent AI ._.

do they move full speed this time? the last one had alot of potential
Edited by abkarch on Aug 16, 2010 at 10:16 PM

Nice maps!

im downloading cuz i wanna see those spartan bipeds

Technically, all the tags belong to bungie now. Or is that Microsoft, well one of them either way

One question: What did you mean by "realistic AI"? If you wanted intelligent AI, the entire map should NOT be covered with firing positions; rather, the firing positions should be placed intelligently. If you wanted human acting AI, then yes, the map could be coated, but you'd have to do some stuff in addition, guarding at guard position and several magically see scripts to complement the positions.

Looks great, I can't wait to check this out on Monday!

Difference between Human and Intelligent AI.

Playing the map won't let me see the firing positions. For instance, in your screenshot on Chillout, there's a brute / elite / spartan thingy standing in the middle of the map.
Edited by Gamma927 on Aug 17, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Lol, Gamma, posted right when I did.

Downloaded it at your insistence, and...

Playing the map doesn't answer my question about whether they're meant to be intelligent AI or human AI. Since it's covies vs humans, I'll assume they were meant to be intelligent AI. In that case, I can admit that you made a valiant effort. However, this still could use a lot of work.

Why: What is this:

This wasn't the only case in which I noticed where AI got... stuck.

The AI also tended to ignore me, and didn't really do a good job on concentrating on enemy AI as well. They concentrated more on running to another location rather than shooting anyone in their immediate proximity.

And the magnum is IMBrokeRU's animations. Just something you should add to the creds.

Well, seeing that pic, definitely not downloading now. If 3 AI all bunch up stuck in a doorway, well, I'd hardly call that "perfected" or "intelligent"

They're all grouped up in one place, as were the spartans. The occasional AI that were brave enough to go elsewhere ignored everyone around him as he tried to make his way to another room.

:P i can make encounters better then this.. the chillout mod is horrible ai cant jump to pillars cant go through telle porters ( i think you can make a trigger volume where they do go through telles)

and you chose chillout and blood gulch where it relys on tellporters..

they seem like normal retard ai to me. they stand still and shoot half the time, they dont strafe, that dont jump, and they dont throw nades. if u can fix that these would be pretty good

http://www.xfire.com/video/3382c7/] <a href="http://www.xfire.com/video/3382c7/" target="_blank">http://www.xfire.com/video/3382c7/</a> http://www.xfire.com/video/2aebd0/
http://www.xfire.com/video/274d05/
http://www.xfire.com/video/24b977/
http://www.xfire.com/video/292182/
projects that im still working on since crimson dropped out

http://www.xfire.com/video/278ae4/
http://www.xfire.com/video/278b22/



and thats not all if i had my pc working i would have 50 links and some of those are super old pics/videos

also UNMT stuff that we havent revelead yet

springfield is one not unmt but it counts as my map (not released yet)
Edited by Hydrogen on Aug 17, 2010 at 06:23 PM

Actually, that's one of the issues. If you want better AI, scripts WILL make it much more "interesting". Also, just because the AI don't get stuck in those places for you doesn't mean they don't for other people. AI are random; their actions are random. You can post a video showing what they're like for you, and I can post a video showing what they're like for me, and both videos will prove both our points.

For instance:
-AI don't dodge grenades
-AI shoot at me, then halfway through killing me, they turn around and go shoot other people
-AI don't shoot while moving
-AI are far more interested in other AI than players

Don't deny these, because I have a video recorded that shows all of these flaws, ready to upload.

Sure, you have firing positions, but without correct AI squad setup and efficient tagging, you'd need scripts to improve AI combat. As for AI throwing grenades, it's in the actor variant tag. Scroll down to grenades and make sure the velocity is a whole number. The other fields are self explanatory.

The whole purpose of my posts are not to flame the map, rather, show that you still do not fully understand AI and their nuances. I had originally posted to ask your definition of "intelligent AI", which you advertised the maps with. Downloading the map showed me that these were not fully intelligent AI, and that you needed a lot of work. Don't deny the "bugs" and defend your work, as is your instinct. You've spent a lot of time on this; of course you'll try to defend it. However, you still need to listen to the criticism, else you'll be falsely advertising "intelligent AI" again and again.

why would it matter what i have released if its not 100% perfect?

lol releasing stuff or not. are you saying since i havent released anything that the Blood Gulch mod guys are better then me? No that better not be what your saying cause release or not we still have knowledge. it's like Critics they dont make movies they just know movies and the know when they see a bad movie.

Lol , I just want to inform everyone that it's the Eighteenth of August, 2010, well, you've just been chilled in. (Or out)
This is rapidly turning into a trollfest and arguement. Can I please be informed about this map so that I can either 'crap' or 'fap' to it.

Have they now? So your saying all my textures and stuff. Hanging off the edge of a cliff to get a pic of this awsome stone wall, they have put more work in then i have? LOL you sir are the cancer killing this forum.

Definitely the former of the two options. AI are nothing like the creator wanted them to be like. Wait for the next release when the creator has actually put some more effort into it and it doesn't seem like a bunch of AI and CMT tags tossed randomly into Bloodgulch/Chillout.

Way to not be able to take criticism. Just by looking at Gamma's bug list
-AI don't dodge grenades
-AI shoot at me, then halfway through killing me, they turn around and go shoot other people
-AI don't shoot while moving
-AI are far more interested in other AI than players

I have already decided this is not worth a download, especially since you didn't even bother to compress it in a .zip

You cannot bar me from posting. I am still on-topic. So far I have stated to:
-Zip your file next time, it'll halve the filesize and download time.
-Fix bugs as described by Gamma and maybe more people will play it.

Also, are you deeming Gamma's words to be untrustworthy? I watched your gameplay video too, and it displayed essentially what he pointed out anyway.
Edited by doompig444 on Aug 18, 2010 at 07:14 PM

played it, it just seemed like ai in a map to me. they were not smart at all.

meh i dont cut myself, thats for idiots who want to harm there bodies that god has gave them. i just get real angry and start fight when i go emo WOOT!

emo faggot elite

Careful where you're going with that religious talk...

If you want additional stuff, script ai jumping, weapon switching or powerup use. I could do it if you want. Then again, I'll be doing something like this soon for Halo 3 maps with ai, so just wait.