ok this is the official page for a project im starting on. its going to be on two maps one MP and one SP map. as of rite now there is no name for the maps, i havent even started yet making the maps. and because this is my first time messing with maps or modding i have no idea what i am doing or have the skills to do these stuff, so i would need people to volunteer to help do scripting and animtaions stuff. those wiling to want to particpate in this project can join. also this map is going to be public and wont be protected and if i dont get enough people, which would result nothing being done, then the project would be dropped

as of rite now the idea i have is having 78 different tags in one map, maybe a map at the same size of bloodgulch. everything on the map would be showing stuff from halo 1, halo 2, halo 3, halo 3 ODST, and halo Reach to put all that so players can have more choices during gameplay (might change, depends on how the people in the halo community are making the halo reach tags). having 78 weapon/vehicle/equipment tag might sound impossible, but i been going around the forums doing some research and asking people to see if this works and most of them say it would work.

these are the following tags i am going to use, note the tags i am going to use are not going to be mines, i would be asking the halo community if i could use their tags or ask some people to make them for those that havent been made yet.

first off here are a list of weapons i am going to try to get into the game, their are a tottal 39 tags for weapons:
H1 Assault rifle, H3 assault rifle, and maybe Halo Reach Assault Rifle
H1 Pistol, H3 Pistol, H3ODST silent Pistol, and maybe Halo Reach Assault Rifle
H3 sniper, and maybe Halo Reach sniper
H1 shotgun, H3 shotgun, and Halo Reach Shotgun (shotgun might turn out to be only H3 and halo reach shotguns)
H3 plasma rifle
H3 brute plasma rifle
H1 needler, H3 needler
H1 Rocket launcher, H2 Rocket launcher, H3 Rocket launcher, Halo Reach Rocket launcher
H1 Fuel rod, H3 fuel rod
H1 flame thrower, H2 flame thrower, H3 flame thrower
H2 battle rifle, H3 battle rifle, Halo reach battle rifle
H3 SMG H3 ODST silent pistol
H3 plasma pistol
H3 spartan laser
H3 energy sword
H3 carbine
H3 gravity hammer
H3 brute shot (spiker)
H3 brute grenade launcher
H3 mauler
H3 sentinel beam

second is the vehicles which has a tottal number of tag of 16:
H1 Rocket Warthog (destroyable), and maybe halo reach rocket warthog
H3 chain gun warthog
H3 Gauss warthog
H3 elephant
H3 hornet
H1 scorpion, H3 scorpion
H3 mongoose
H3 banshee
H3 ghost
H1 wraith, H3 wraith
H3 Anti air wraith
H3 brute chopper
H3 brute prowler

third is gernades their is a tottal of 5 different gernades tags, but i dont know if u can hold up more than 2 kinds of gernades might change depending on how many different kind of gernades you can hold:
H3 frag grenade
H3 plasma grenade
H3 spike grenade
H3 incendiary grenade
H3 trip mine

next are the stationary turrets their are about 6 different kind of tags for the turrets, which might change depending if i can find someone who can make it detachable for me:
H1 Shade, H2 shade, H3 shade
H2 machine gun turret, H3 machine gun turret
H3 missile pod

and then their are 5 equipment tags:
H3 bubble shield
H3 deployable shield
H3 portable grav lift
H3 power drain
H3 regenerator

and then the powerups and so on stuff, their are a tottal of 7:
H1 over shield, H3 over shield
H1 camouflage, H3 camouflage
H1 health pack, H3 ODST health pack, and maybe halo Reach health packs


ANYONE INTERESTED IN HELPING CAN ASK BELOW!!!! OR YOU CAN JUST SEND ME A PM OR ADD ME ON XFIRE, MY XFIRE IS leyen
Edited by leyuen on Jun 16, 2010 at 07:45 PM

1. Halo 2 flame thrower dosen't exist
2. you can't have more than 2 grenades
3. I don't think regenerators are possible

if you start it.... they will come

There is one, its called the Incinerator, a covenant plasmathrower. But it was cut out.

give me BSP and tags and ill do it alllll for you. but you dont have BSP do you? or tags? if you do, im serious, and ill let you have (most) credit. i cant do any modeling, scripting, or texturing though. i suck at it.
Edited by abkarch on Jun 16, 2010 at 04:01 PM

I can do a tiny bit of scripting.

1. ok then halo 2 flame thrower is gone
2. i had a thought when i was planning that in the map there are the four different kind of grenades but you can only use the first two kind of grenades that u pick up, and to use the different kinds of grenades u need to dispose the grenades u are holding... like for example: u walk over four frag grenades and four plasma grenades but u c four spike and incerinary grenades, to use the spike grenade all u have to do is throw all your frag grenades then u walk up the spike grenade... now u can hold plasma and spike grenade.
3. how is it not? i remember someone made something similar thing on a map before i played



kool thxi dont yet.. i will be doing that soon if u can wait for like a day or two till i get it done then i will let u do it... but im still confused on a thing like if i were to use ppl tags would it work because the hud are different and stuff?
Edited by leyuen on Jun 16, 2010 at 04:24 PM

4 grenades are not possible.

Also tripmines would fall under equipment

Wrong, theres on in the beta or something, seen it on youtube with the h2 mongoose. But advancebo just tells you what he has seen from CAD.
Edited by Spartan_094 on Jun 16, 2010 at 04:58 PM

HUR, I got sound tags of it, foo.
Also, its Disenegrator.

lies they are to hacked guerilla

ok prove it make 4 grenades possible

ok fine the grenade problem, i would work on that later on in the project... as of rite now getting, all 78 tags into a map is first priority



hydrogen it seems like you know how to make it so that having 4 types of grenade works, so would u be willing to help me make it so that the map ima make can have 4 different kinds of grenades?
Edited by leyuen on Jun 16, 2010 at 07:43 PM

I'll help if your willing to accept. I'm a newcomer to creating maps for halo, but have experience in modeling, texturing, and animating. I have also read through the HEK tut and it doesn't seem all that complicating.

If your serious about making a good map, then its gonna take a lot of planning before the work. Some napkin sketches for starters?

xfire is toatorih

also anyone willing to donate tags i have listed on the first post feel free to just send me a private message or talk to me on xfire

Umm you do know that you just don't have 78 tags, right? The weapon tags need animation tags and textures and model tags. Everything single basic tag, biped, actor, scenery, item collection, weapon, vehicle, are amde of about 10 other tags. (depends) You mgiht as well have for 669 tags dude. Good luck.

5 grenades ey?
sure u can do that by making the nades = weapons(like teh bubble shield)
but the throwing velocity should match the biped's

We might not even be able to get all those weapons, so I think he just put those there as place holders.

If we are going for variety then it would be nice to see both versions of the smg.

here is a SLIGHTLY more reasonable list of weapons, consider using this. hes right, thats just too many tags:

H3 assault rifle,
H1 Pistol,H3ODST silent Pistol,
and maybe Halo Reach sniper
H3 shotgun, and Halo Reach Shotgun (shotgun might turn out to be only H3 and halo reach shotguns)
H3 plasma rifle
H3 brute plasma rifle
H1 needler,
H2 Rocket launcher,
H3 fuel rod
H1 flame thrower,H3 flame thrower
H3 battle rifle,
H3 SMG
H3 plasma pistol
H3 energy sword
H3 carbine
H3 gravity hammer
H3 brute grenade launcher
H3 mauler
H3 sentinel beam

the reason why i have so many tags, is that i wanted to create a map showing the differences of all the weapons that bungie created for halo, like for example the h1 assault rifle was clearly different from the h3 assault rifle, im not talking about looks, im talking about how its used in gameplay and the shots that came out on the h1 assault rifle was spreaded out while in h3 it was more compressed

Please note that all recreations of the weapons for CE are not exactly the same as Halo 2 / 3's. For example, these weapons tend to be balanced at the creator's discretion, so the spread for the assault rifles may not be the same. The aesthetics also differ than from Halo 2 and 3, not just appearance-wise, but animation-wise and effect-wise.

^This. You wouldn't be showcasing Halo 1 vs. Halo 2 vs. Halo 3 stuff, you'd be showcasing Halo 1 vs. Halo CE.

Plus if it comes down to gameplay everyone will just pick up the powerful weapons, leaving the others unvisited.

Its going to need some sort of a balance for weapon variety and strenght.

they would be balanced, the more powerful the weapon is the longer it takes for it to spawn, and thats y the vehicles im putting into the map are all going to be destroyable.

edit: they would have to eventually pick other weapons up because im going to set the default weapons to very weak weapons
Edited by leyuen on Jun 17, 2010 at 03:39 PM

+

you messing with the default weapons' balances

=

very bad gameplay.

i will worry about that later, i might just set the default as the defaults of halo 1 or halo 3 defaults

you realize that your entire map is completely dependent upon the accuracy of all your weapons, right? that's the only thing keeping me from saying "LOL NOOB STICK SOME WEAPONS IN BLOODGULCH MOD". You should probably worry about that NOW. I doubt you'll get your hands on any of the tags you need for a while, so I'd start researching damage properties, rates of fires, etc. if I were you.

LOL... he didn't understand the troll

The tripmine exists already. I made one fully working my own.

what does bsp? people use it a lot and i find myself just ignoring it.

You shouldn't do BSP, i heer it's really bad for you. It seems inocent enough, but despite what they say, you CAN get addicted. It's also a gateway to bigger more harmfull things like bipeds and cocain! Just keep ignoring BSP and anyone who offers it to you.But if you still have a problem, talk to you parents, your teacher, or any other adult you trust.


Joking aside, does anyone have the heart to explain to him his project is NOT happening, at least not the way he specifies.

dude there were lots of stuff people thought wasnt possible for halo CE's engine, and managed to do it

And there's also a lot of stuff that people thought weren't possible, that still aren't done, because they simply aren't possible.

ok so do you think putting 78 different weapon/vehicle/equipment tag into a map will work or not?