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HDoan
Joined: Feb 19, 2007

"'Tis only happens to them Asians" - ODX 2008


Posted: Aug 20, 2009 10:16 PM    Msg. 71 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: Ethereial
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Pelican styled vehicles are terrible. If you want it to be a true vehicle, it should be done like a banshee


Masters, we all know you hate Pelicans, but a Hornet is supposed to fly like a Pelican since it's a Vertical-takoff-and-landing vehicle, generally those that can hover - and can automatically. The Banshe can hover, but only if you press the backwards key. And true aerial vehicles can strafe.

With the limitations of halo 1, banshees and hornets cant strafe. Also if it flies like a pelican then in halo 1, when you look forward the whole vehicle will tilt and you will accellerate forward weither or not you held forward.
http://www.xfire.com/video/114b25/


WM Blade
Joined: Sep 27, 2008

WORT WORT WHAT???


Posted: Aug 20, 2009 10:20 PM    Msg. 72 of 340       
good banshee, to bad u r lazy XD
hey you guys made the recovery thing, the oposite of the shield drainer?


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Aug 20, 2009 10:22 PM    Msg. 73 of 340       
Just recolor the effects of the drainer to green, set the damage to +10 or something, and model the regenerator.


ChocolateNugget
Joined: Sep 29, 2007

im your #1 fan !!


Posted: Aug 20, 2009 10:23 PM    Msg. 74 of 340       
Regenerator and power drainer use same model. :D


BeachParty clan
Joined: Oct 12, 2008

Sooo... You wanna switch to Red team huh?


Posted: Aug 20, 2009 10:29 PM    Msg. 75 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: ChocolateNugget
Regenerator and power drainer use same model. :D

The power drainer and the radar jammer maybe, but the regenerator doesnt look alike at all


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Aug 20, 2009 10:42 PM    Msg. 76 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: Ethereial
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Pelican styled vehicles are terrible. If you want it to be a true vehicle, it should be done like a banshee


Masters, we all know you hate Pelicans, but a Hornet is supposed to fly like a Pelican since it's a Vertical-takoff-and-landing vehicle, generally those that can hover - and can automatically. The Banshe can hover, but only if you press the backwards key. And true aerial vehicles can strafe.


I hate pelicans because they sick for anything but novelty. Sure they can VTOL, but thats pretty much it, you're screwed in combat and the pelican is nothing at all close to a hornet for that matter too.


WM Blade
Joined: Sep 27, 2008

WORT WORT WHAT???


Posted: Aug 20, 2009 11:44 PM    Msg. 77 of 340       
agree totally with masterz, it would be a total crap, u couldnt fly it easily


Ethereial
Joined: May 19, 2009

O_O


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 12:34 AM    Msg. 78 of 340       
Yes but imagine a Hornet flying like a Banshee. Hornets don't need to fly well, they have all the firepower they need.

Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Quote: --- Original message by: Ethereial
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Pelican styled vehicles are terrible. If you want it to be a true vehicle, it should be done like a banshee


Masters, we all know you hate Pelicans, but a Hornet is supposed to fly like a Pelican since it's a Vertical-takoff-and-landing vehicle, generally those that can hover - and can automatically. The Banshe can hover, but only if you press the backwards key. And true aerial vehicles can strafe.


I hate pelicans because they sick for anything but novelty. Sure they can VTOL, but thats pretty much it, you're screwed in combat and the pelican is nothing at all close to a hornet for that matter too.


You just denied yourself.
Edited by Ethereial on Aug 21, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Edited by Ethereial on Aug 21, 2009 at 12:36 AM


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 12:37 AM    Msg. 79 of 340       
In what way did he "deny" himself? Just because a vehicle can perform VTOL operations, doesn't mean it has to be similar to a hornet.

PS: I think you mean "contradict"
Edited by Gamma927 on Aug 21, 2009 at 12:37 AM


Ethereial
Joined: May 19, 2009

O_O


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 12:48 AM    Msg. 80 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927

In what way did he "deny" himself? Just because a vehicle can perform VTOL operations, doesn't mean it has to be similar to a hornet.

PS: I think you mean "contradict"
Edited by Gamma927 on Aug 21, 2009 at 12:37 AM


They're synonymous in general meaning.

I don't know how a Hornet will fly like a Banshee, but just make it fly like the Longsword if not the Pelican. I hope you get my point in rephrasing.

I don't see why the Hornet should fly like a Banshee. H3MT is making H3 content, and a Hornet flying like a Banshee is definitely not H3 content. Just make it like a Pelican that flies faster.

(do I seem to say more "I don't" recently?)I don't even know another vehicle which is a VTOL. The Banshee is an STOL.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 12:52 AM    Msg. 81 of 340       
No, using "deny" just sounds plain weird. Sound these out.

He contradicted himself during an argument.
He denied himself during an argument.

/grammar lesson.

Also, the hornets in Halo 3 are capable of strafing ground targets, as well as performing quick, aerial maneuvers. Compare those to the pelicans you can fly in Hugeass.


Ethereial
Joined: May 19, 2009

O_O


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 12:54 AM    Msg. 82 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
No, using "deny" just sounds plain weird. Sound these out.

He contradicted himself during an argument.
He denied himself during an argument.

/grammar lesson.

Also, the hornets in Halo 3 are capable of strafing ground targets, as well as performing quick, aerial maneuvers. Compare those to the pelicans you can fly in Hugeass.


I told you make it faster. I get the grammar, but for the 3rd time, it's not an argument, it's a debate. Dennis doesn't allow arguments.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 12:56 AM    Msg. 83 of 340       
And where have I stated that it was an argument? Debates are made up of many arguments, so your point is moot.


Ethereial
Joined: May 19, 2009

O_O


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 12:59 AM    Msg. 84 of 340       
But dennis doesn't allow arguments.

we must ask H3MT... TO END THIS!!!


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 01:14 AM    Msg. 85 of 340       
Making it go faster isn't going to help it, and hornets aren't suppose to be super fast anyway. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about


Ethereial
Joined: May 19, 2009

O_O


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 04:54 AM    Msg. 86 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Making it go faster isn't going to help it, and hornets aren't suppose to be super fast anyway. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about


To make it seem to have more maneuverability proportional to how an AI can seem smarter if you add more health.

I wouldn't want to see a hornet doing these.

  • Having to fly around in circles or move backwards when staying in the air like a Banshee

  • Slowly moving while on the ground without pressing anything like the Banshee

  • Tilting when you hard turn like the Banshee

  • Needing a runway just to take off - VTOL remember?



Nexus Halo
Joined: Feb 24, 2007

Halo's Dark Knight http://www.nexushalo.kk5.org/


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 05:36 AM    Msg. 87 of 340       
The Hornet will never work just like the one in Halo 3. The physics of the pelican wouldn't fit the Hornet because it's too slow and doesn't maneuver like it. Sure it may be similar but just won't work. Either way, Banshee or Pelican, I don't think it belongs in Halo CE.


Ethereial
Joined: May 19, 2009

O_O


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 05:38 AM    Msg. 88 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: Nexus Halo
The Hornet will never work just like the one in Halo 3. The physics of the pelican wouldn't fit the Hornet because it's too slow and doesn't maneuver like it. Sure it may be similar but just won't work. Either way, Banshee or Pelican, I don't think it belongs in Halo CE.


Get a Banshee on Extinction, see how slow the Banshee is.


Nexus Halo
Joined: Feb 24, 2007

Halo's Dark Knight http://www.nexushalo.kk5.org/


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 06:03 AM    Msg. 89 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: Ethereial
Quote: --- Original message by: Nexus Halo
The Hornet will never work just like the one in Halo 3. The physics of the pelican wouldn't fit the Hornet because it's too slow and doesn't maneuver like it. Sure it may be similar but just won't work. Either way, Banshee or Pelican, I don't think it belongs in Halo CE.


Get a Banshee on Extinction, see how slow the Banshee is.


It's a big map so it's going to seem like it's slow. I've never played it but it's speed can be changed in the tag but it will effect the way it flies. The Hornet is not going to work correctly with any vehicle physics in Halo CE. Sure the closest thing is the Pelican but it just wouldn't seem right.


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 08:36 AM    Msg. 90 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: HDoan
http://www.xfire.com/video/114b25/

You need to add a multipurpose/specular bitmap in the shader. Right now it looks as if shines green everywhere in the shader which doesn't look very good tbh. Make the green just shine on the upper pink alot, and just a little bit on the sides.
Edited by Higuy on Aug 21, 2009 at 08:37 AM


Ethereial
Joined: May 19, 2009

O_O


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 10:49 AM    Msg. 91 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: Nexus Halo
Quote: --- Original message by: Ethereial
Quote: --- Original message by: Nexus Halo
The Hornet will never work just like the one in Halo 3. The physics of the pelican wouldn't fit the Hornet because it's too slow and doesn't maneuver like it. Sure it may be similar but just won't work. Either way, Banshee or Pelican, I don't think it belongs in Halo CE.


Get a Banshee on Extinction, see how slow the Banshee is.


It's a big map so it's going to seem like it's slow. I've never played it but it's speed can be changed in the tag but it will effect the way it flies. The Hornet is not going to work correctly with any vehicle physics in Halo CE. Sure the closest thing is the Pelican but it just wouldn't seem right.


You all disprove why the Hornet shouldn't fly like a Pelican when you don't look at why the Hornet shouldn't fly like the Banshee. A Pelican doesn't seem right, but a Banshee doesn't either. It's like finding a barricade on the way across a long tunnel where you're car can't go, but you're 1km away from the exit, and you can walk, but instead you take your car back 20km away from the entrance just for a bathroom stopover and picking the bathroom over where the barricade was.

I know the Pelican doesn't maneuver well, but the Hornet is supposed to contrast with the Banshee. It should take a few more hits(I think), and be more heavily armed and armored, like a Scorpion to a Wraith. Just in case you haven't noticed, most if not all vehicles contrast this way. Excluding the ghost:mongoose proportion.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 10:58 AM    Msg. 92 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: Ethereial
Quote: --- Original message by: Nexus Halo
Quote: --- Original message by: Ethereial
Quote: --- Original message by: Nexus Halo
The Hornet will never work just like the one in Halo 3. The physics of the pelican wouldn't fit the Hornet because it's too slow and doesn't maneuver like it. Sure it may be similar but just won't work. Either way, Banshee or Pelican, I don't think it belongs in Halo CE.


Get a Banshee on Extinction, see how slow the Banshee is.


It's a big map so it's going to seem like it's slow. I've never played it but it's speed can be changed in the tag but it will effect the way it flies. The Hornet is not going to work correctly with any vehicle physics in Halo CE. Sure the closest thing is the Pelican but it just wouldn't seem right.


It's like finding a barricade on the way across a long tunnel where you're car can't go, but you're 1km away from the exit, and you can walk, but instead you take your car back 20km away from the entrance just for a bathroom stopover and picking the bathroom over where the barricade was.


Explain how your analogy relates to this topic. I'm assuming that you're implying that we should choose the pelican, but instead we go the extra mile to improve the design, and make it better than it could be if it were a pelican.


Invader Veex
Joined: Apr 11, 2007

i make poast


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 11:08 AM    Msg. 93 of 340       
The H3MT Hornet flies fine. It's not an exact replica of Halo 3's, but it's still similar to it, and its easy to maneuver.


oh, and new plasma rifle skin and shaders

Edited by Invader Veex on Aug 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM


vmt
Joined: Jan 29, 2008


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 11:19 AM    Msg. 94 of 340       
this^ thank you for someone who actually is in the real world


Ethereial
Joined: May 19, 2009

O_O


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 11:29 AM    Msg. 95 of 340       


You go back to the start when you're so damn close.


Invader Veex
Joined: Apr 11, 2007

i make poast


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 11:30 AM    Msg. 96 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: Ethereial


You go back to the start when you're so damn close.


idgi


AlwinRoth
Joined: Jan 4, 2008


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 11:48 AM    Msg. 97 of 340       
Is there a Final Hornet flight video anywhere?


HDoan
Joined: Feb 19, 2007

"'Tis only happens to them Asians" - ODX 2008


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 01:39 PM    Msg. 98 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: Invader Veex

The H3MT Hornet flies fine. It's not an exact replica of Halo 3's, but it's still similar to it, and its easy to maneuver.


oh, and new plasma rifle skin and shaders

Edited by Invader Veex on Aug 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Nice shaders, I wonder who made em :P

Also in our last test, balanced was actually pretty good, I broadcasted for you guys but you losers didn't watch -.-
Just kidding I love you guys in a non homosexual way


ChocolateNugget
Joined: Sep 29, 2007

im your #1 fan !!


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 01:45 PM    Msg. 99 of 340       
I'm sure they'll live. It was mostly me complaining about lag and you having a host advantage.


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 01:47 PM    Msg. 100 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: ChocolateNugget
It was mostly me complaining about lag and you having a host advantage.
I see nothing has changed here xD


HDoan
Joined: Feb 19, 2007

"'Tis only happens to them Asians" - ODX 2008


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 01:50 PM    Msg. 101 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: ODX
Quote: --- Original message by: ChocolateNugget
It was mostly me complaining about lag and you having a host advantage.
I see nothing has changed here xD

I told him to host but he wouldn't =[ I wanted to test client!


AlwinRoth
Joined: Jan 4, 2008


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 02:01 PM    Msg. 102 of 340       
would of been nice if someone recorded -_-


HDoan
Joined: Feb 19, 2007

"'Tis only happens to them Asians" - ODX 2008


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 02:13 PM    Msg. 103 of 340       
I broadcasted =[


WM Blade
Joined: Sep 27, 2008

WORT WORT WHAT???


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 02:14 PM    Msg. 104 of 340       
yeah yeah broadcast


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Aug 21, 2009 05:07 PM    Msg. 105 of 340       
Quote: --- Original message by: HDoan
I broadcasted =[
When I saw you in the game (looking through xfire I mean) it didn't say you were broadcasting. Well I guess you'll just have to do it again or give me a build :3

 
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