okay I'm like really stupid and I need help with sapien.I don't know how to get a map to open on sapien.I watched a bunch of videos on youtube about sapien tuturials and every time they open a thing under the map called *mapname*.scenario.when I try to open bloodgulch there is no bloodgulch.scenario just bitmaps and shaders.am I supposed to do something to put that there?I don't know what to do about it so help please.

stfu or gtfo moron

seriously help
Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:14 AM

This is quite simple...

Go to halomaps map section and look for hek+ by steelbix i believe and download and install that, then start it up and go to open map and open bloodgulch.map drag everything folders and all in the right column that shows up. Into the littel box with lines like this kinda...

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and under the box will be a checked box that says save tag data or w/e that doesn't have to be checked anyway you can un-check that and click start and it should process and extract the .scenario file that you can then open in sapien.

Edited by skynet on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:18 AM

k ill try that thx

to get bloodgulch u need HEK+
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=1542
with that u open the bloodgulch in ur CE root directory and select everything that coms up.
then drag that to the white box in the bottom right corner and uncheck the check box that says save extracted tags list
then click save and it'll extract all the tags need for sapien to open it

I did that and now when I click bloodgulch.scenario it freezes like it does before it opens the map and then it just closes everything

ok in the CE root directory open the debug.txt file in thr and go to last paragraph and paste it here for help with ur problem but first wats ur processor type?

uhhhhh....man this is embarassing,I don't even know what you mean by processor type...


07.08.09 22:51:19 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
07.08.09 22:51:19 reference function: _write_to_error_file
07.08.09 22:51:19 reference address: 401b13
07.08.09 22:51:19 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
07.08.09 22:51:19 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
07.08.09 22:51:20 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
07.08.09 22:51:21 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
07.08.09 22:51:21 file_open('tags\levels\test\bloodgulch\bloodgulch.scenario') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
07.08.09 22:51:21 couldn't open scenario tag 'bloodgulch.scenario'.
07.08.09 22:51:21 need to get the following tags:
07.08.09 22:51:21 levels\test\bloodgulch\bloodgulch.scenario
07.08.09 22:51:21
07.08.09 22:51:21 game_load() failed.

Try fixing resolution .. and it should be 32 bit not 16 bit for monitor

If that doesnt work re-rip the map make sure you clicked on ALL the folders and files

i mean the CPU type is it a dual core? should be on ffront of PC

uhhh,okay...how should I put this....WHAT?

btw yeah dual core
Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:42 AM

lol thot u'd say that. on the front of the computer thr should be a sticker that either says intel or AMD and it should say the name of the CPU thr

edit ok next time u start sapien dont select a scenario hit ctrl-alt-delete and hit the processor tab find sapien and right click on it and click set affinity. uncheck CPU 1 and click ok then select a scenario and it should work
Edited by darkassassin14 on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:45 AM

Let's use our brains here guys...

then how the hell did he try and open bloodgulch if bloodgulch isnt thr lol

Like i said he needs to re-rip bloodgulch because he didnt get all the tags.. .

yea tru

k I reripped bloodgulch but the same thing happened again

Delete the entire folder. Rerip.

...I'm so getting tired of these dissapointing results...happened again

Ok, how are you trying to open Bloodgulch? In Sapien, browse to Levels\test\bloodgulch, and double click bloodgulch.scenario.

that's what I do

It does the same thing as in this guy's vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtpy4ga1-H8&feature=response_watch

Have you ever fixed your resolution???

also if you run vista aero you have to make sapien compatible an disable desktop visual themes,desktop composition, an display on hi DPI, followed by running it under windows service pack 2
Edited by skynet on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Wait, so it just hangs there? It doesn't crash?

didn't you notice when you asked me that before I said what meaning I didn't have a clue what you ment?how can I fix it if I don't even know what you mean?

If your running windows xp I suggest you check your resolution settings.

resolution settings are under theme under display tab it one of the basic things you need to know about computers.


So I give you a run down righ tclick on your desktop and go to desktop background i think... or you can go to start, control panel, desktop anyway it suppose to bring a window up that shows your desktop and lets you switch your desktop and then you go from there to the tab that says monitor resolution.

Sorry I not completely familiar with XP as I always ran on Vista.



\/ . . .Gamma in the video Sapien did crash that why it quit. . . \/
Edited by skynet on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Resolution won't cause this problem. Tell me if this statement is true. If yes, then I know your problem.

I'm running vista

as to gamma's message - what do you mean by crash?It stayed open a while then closed.

Crash = closing itself. As soon as it crashes, check your debug.txt. Make sure it's closed before it crashes. When it crashes, open it back up, and scroll to the bottom. Do you still have the same error?

Oh vista easy then...

Right click your desktop... go to personalize then go to display settings
make sure colors is 32 bit

resolution change im not sure but I use 1024 by 768

Then try to load up Sapien again ... if you still got the issue right click the sapein shortcut and go to properties then go to compatability the bottom 3 boxes under settings check and then check compatability mode and run it as windows xp service pack 2 in the drop down menu... or any windows xp compatability would be fine.

Edited by skynet on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:56 AM

07.08.09 22:51:19 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
07.08.09 22:51:19 reference function: _write_to_error_file
07.08.09 22:51:19 reference address: 401b13
07.08.09 22:51:19 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
07.08.09 22:51:19 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
07.08.09 22:51:20 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
07.08.09 22:51:21 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
07.08.09 22:51:21 file_open('tags\levels\test\bloodgulch\bloodgulch.scenario') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
07.08.09 22:51:21 couldn't open scenario tag 'bloodgulch.scenario'.
07.08.09 22:51:21 need to get the following tags:
07.08.09 22:51:21 levels\test\bloodgulch\bloodgulch.scenario
07.08.09 22:51:21
07.08.09 22:51:21 game_load() failed.

It's not the resolution. That doesn't affect the way Sapien starts up. As for this error, try another scenario. Try opening the scenario in the folder levels\test\tutorial.

Gamma compatability effects it and so does running it as 16 bit... but anyway that not the error Sapien is giving him... it sounds like a corrupted bloogulch.scenario... erm is it possible he downloaded a bad Hek+ version???
Edited by skynet on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:57 AM

.....

What does 1024 x 768 resolution have to do with running it in 16 bit? I can have a 1280 x 800 resolution, and run it in 16 bit. And if he was running it on 16 bit, Halo won't even start up, nor many other programs.

I was agreeing with you about the resolution part as i honestly don't know if that effects anything but 16bit sapien wont start up in 16 bit... but I have had halo start up in 16 bit before so I know that works. Seeing as I got HEK after Halo ce and had to change my monitor to 32 bit.

Also Vista likes to give compatability issues to a lot of XP programs like Sapien and HEK+ considering he can actually run HEK+ without it glitching him up he obviously not running with Vista Aero theme so only thing I can think of is he using 16 bit not 32 or... he got a bunch of bad tags and didn't rip bloodgulch correctly.
Edited by skynet on Jul 9, 2009 at 11:05 AM

I was already using 32 bit,I got the GOOD version of hek+ from the guy YOU told me to get it from,I'm pretty sure I ripped the tags correctly,I tryed dangercanyon this time and IT didn't load