ok i wanted to mod the map bloodgulch on sapien. i got me a program called Halo Tag Converter on here so i can get the scenario file. i exported it and saved it in the tags folder that came with HEK. when i started sapien and loaded the bloodgulch scenario file it went like 3 seconds then shut down on me. then a debug file was in my halo ce folder.

03.31.09 22:21:51 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
03.31.09 22:21:51 reference function: _write_to_error_file
03.31.09 22:21:51 reference address: 401b13
03.31.09 22:21:51 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
03.31.09 22:21:51 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
03.31.09 22:21:51 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
03.31.09 22:21:52 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
03.31.09 22:21:53 scenario doesn't have a structure bsp
03.31.09 22:21:53 game_load() failed.

can you help me or is this not fixable. i tried to reinstall HEK but it wouldnt work.

Open Guerilla, find your .scenario file. Go to the very bottom, and find "structure BSP's"
Click Add. Navigate to tags\levels\bloodgulch and pick bloodgulch.scenario_structure_bsp
save and open again. If the file is not there, use HEK+ (available on this site) to rip all the tags from bloodgulch.

I think the fact that you're using a Halo PC map may be the problem. Also, it isn't so simple to just convert it over. It's much easier to just take bloodgulch, use Halo CE tools, and compile it into a Halo CE map. Search multiplayer scenario tags on Halomaps, download them, put them in your tags folder, and open it up with Sapien to open it successfully. But once you save it, you must compile it.
Edited by Gamma927 on Apr 2, 2009 at 06:20 PM

i did that but still says it, i can work on scenario files but not the ones for bloodgulch and the other default halo maps. i can work on custom maps but not modded halo maps, does that make any sense

What seems to be the error? Does Sapien not start up?

sapien wont start up, it keeps on giving a debug file and it has a bunch of crap in it... its not a map out of the origional halo folder, its bloodgulch out of halo CE but it wont load only on those maps, if i take a scenario file that was custom made i can open it fine. i downloaded the maps scenario pack like someone said but i cant use them. it tells me this....






04.02.09 22:10:00 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
04.02.09 22:10:00 reference function: _write_to_error_file
04.02.09 22:10:00 reference address: 401b13
04.02.09 22:10:00 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
04.02.09 22:10:00 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
04.02.09 22:10:00 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
04.02.09 22:10:01 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
04.02.09 22:10:02 EAX: 0xFFFFFFFE
04.02.09 22:10:02 EBX: 0x00000101
04.02.09 22:10:02 ECX: 0x0012E3D0
04.02.09 22:10:02 EDX: 0x000002CC
04.02.09 22:10:02 EDI: 0x0012E3D0
04.02.09 22:10:02 ESI: 0x00000000
04.02.09 22:10:02 EBP: 0x0012E2A8
04.02.09 22:10:02 ESP: 0x0012E298
04.02.09 22:10:02 EIP: 0x77909A94, C3 8D A4 24 ?????
04.02.09 22:10:02 EXCEPTION halt in \halopc\haloce\source\tag_files\tag_groups.c,#3157: #-1 is not a valid object_function_block index in [#0,#4)

Right. Download this: http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=1628, and put into your vehicles folder. OVERWRITE YOUR OLD TAGS.

ok i did that and still got the same error code. well at least what i can see. this is what it says now.




04.02.09 23:03:46 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
04.02.09 23:03:46 reference function: _write_to_error_file
04.02.09 23:03:46 reference address: 401b13
04.02.09 23:03:46 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
04.02.09 23:03:46 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
04.02.09 23:03:46 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
04.02.09 23:03:46 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
04.02.09 23:03:48 EAX: 0xFFFFFFFE
04.02.09 23:03:48 EBX: 0x00000101
04.02.09 23:03:48 ECX: 0x0012E3D0
04.02.09 23:03:48 EDX: 0x000002CC
04.02.09 23:03:48 EDI: 0x0012E3D0
04.02.09 23:03:48 ESI: 0x00000000
04.02.09 23:03:48 EBP: 0x0012E2A8
04.02.09 23:03:48 ESP: 0x0012E298
04.02.09 23:03:48 EIP: 0x77909A94, C3 8D A4 24 ?????
04.02.09 23:03:48 EXCEPTION halt in \halopc\haloce\source\tag_files\tag_groups.c,#3157: #-1 is not a valid object_function_block index in [#0,#4)

This error occurs when something is corrupted, usually the monitor animations, or the scorpion tank. Assuming that this is Blood Gulch, the only problems you should have is the scorpion tank. As long as you overwrote your old scorpion folder with this one, it should work. Did you overwrite the old scorpion files?

yes i did but still dosnt load

What scenario file is this?

bloodgulch.scenerio

i ripped it from the bloodgulch map using HEK+

not the regular halo the haloCE file.

i also tried getting the scenario files from the site. still didnt work. i cant even open my old mod newmap2 which was sidewinder. all i can open are the files from other made maps not the modded maps. isnt that wierd

Edited by viperfast1992 on Apr 3, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Try opening a map without vehicles, like chillout. If you can, then I know the problem.

I have a similar problem, its every time i open sapien my mouse pointer disappears then sapien closes. Ilooked in debug but every time i fix the problem a new one comes up.
here is my sapien debug thing: 4.04.09 19:19:03 guerilla pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
04.04.09 19:19:03 reference function: _write_to_error_file
04.04.09 19:19:03 reference address: 4011a4
04.04.09 19:19:03 Couldn't read map file './guerillabeta.map'


04.04.09 19:23:41 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
04.04.09 19:23:41 reference function: _write_to_error_file
04.04.09 19:23:41 reference address: 401b13
04.04.09 19:23:41 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
04.04.09 19:23:42 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
04.04.09 19:23:44 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
04.04.09 19:23:44 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
04.04.09 19:24:22 the biped tag '\halo2_masterchief\cyborg_mp' starts with a directory character.
04.04.09 19:24:23 the gbxmodel tag '\halo2_masterchief\fp\fp rigged' starts with a directory character.
04.04.09 19:24:24 failed to load globals tag 'globals\globals'
04.04.09 19:24:24 couldn't load game globals (get new tags)
04.04.09 19:24:24 need to get the following tags:
04.04.09 19:24:24 \halo2_masterchief\cyborg_mp.biped
04.04.09 19:24:24 \halo2_masterchief\fp\fp rigged.gbxmodel
04.04.09 19:24:24
04.04.09 19:24:24 game_load() failed.


04.04.09 19:25:35 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
04.04.09 19:25:35 reference function: _write_to_error_file
04.04.09 19:25:35 reference address: 401b13
04.04.09 19:25:35 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
04.04.09 19:25:36 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
04.04.09 19:25:37 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
04.04.09 19:25:37 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
04.04.09 19:25:50 the biped tag '\halo2_masterchief\cyborg_mp' starts with a directory character.
04.04.09 19:25:56 the gbxmodel tag '\halo2_masterchief\fp\fp rigged' starts with a directory character.
04.04.09 19:25:56 failed to load globals tag 'globals\globals'
04.04.09 19:25:56 couldn't load game globals (get new tags)
04.04.09 19:25:56 need to get the following tags:
04.04.09 19:25:56 \halo2_masterchief\cyborg_mp.biped
04.04.09 19:25:56 \halo2_masterchief\fp\fp rigged.gbxmodel
04.04.09 19:25:56
04.04.09 19:25:56 game_load() failed.


AND I HAVE THIS TOO

04.04.09 14:08:27 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
04.04.09 14:08:27 reference function: _write_to_error_file
04.04.09 14:08:27 reference address: 401b13
04.04.09 14:08:27 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
04.04.09 14:08:28 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
04.04.09 14:08:29 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
04.04.09 14:08:29 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
04.04.09 14:08:30 file_open('tags\sky\clear afternoon\extinction_skyofdoom.sky') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
04.04.09 14:08:30 couldn't open sky tag 'extinction_skyofdoom.sky'.
04.04.09 14:08:30 file_open('tags\vehicles\wasp\wasp_mp.vehicle') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
04.04.09 14:08:30 couldn't open vehicle tag 'wasp_mp.vehicle'.
04.04.09 14:08:30 failed to load scenario tag 'levels\blank scenario files\tags\levels\map\map'
04.04.09 14:08:30 need to get the following tags:
04.04.09 14:08:30 sky\clear afternoon\extinction_skyofdoom.sky
04.04.09 14:08:30 vehicles\wasp\wasp_mp.vehicle
04.04.09 14:08:30
04.04.09 14:08:30 game_load() failed.
Edited by notaru on Apr 4, 2009 at 07:26 PM

These are your problems.

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So how do i fix those problems?

I'm assuming you're attempting to open the scenario tag downloaded off of halomaps. Open it up in Guerilla, and under sky, redirect it to another sky. Scroll down to vehicle palette, and delete everything.

and of course you have to fix the tag lines in guerilla as well. when you open them in guerilla change all the red lines to the ones in the folder. when you download a tag some of them change cause not everyones computer puts the tags in the same directory.


for example. if i sent you a folder for a gun you would have to change the directories of the tags. my halo is installed in D drive where yours is most likely in the C drive. see how the directories would be messed up

I dont care about guerillas problem because it still works, but does it effect my sapien problem?
Edited by notaru on Apr 5, 2009 at 02:33 PM

yes it will. if sapien can't load the tags it won't load right. if you want it to still work you need to go into guerilla and fix the tags. I've tried to figure out my errors but they won't make sense. it only does it to the default halo maps. I can open any other scenario file as long as its a made map not a mod. if that makes any sense please tell me. lol.

If it won't open mods, it's probably since you didn't rip all of it. Also, who mods a mod?

ok i think i didnt make it clear. sorry


i can open mods but not the regular halo maps like bloodgulch. if i took a map like extinction i can mod it. if i took chaosgulch i cant. do you see what im sayin now.

Rip bloodgulch and you should be able to. Use recursive extraction.

i did that and im still getting the same thing.

04.08.09 16:13:06 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
04.08.09 16:13:06 reference function: _write_to_error_file
04.08.09 16:13:06 reference address: 401b13
04.08.09 16:13:06 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
04.08.09 16:13:06 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
04.08.09 16:13:06 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
04.08.09 16:13:07 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
04.08.09 16:13:08 EAX: 0xFFFFFFFE
04.08.09 16:13:08 EBX: 0x00000101
04.08.09 16:13:08 ECX: 0x0012E3D0
04.08.09 16:13:08 EDX: 0x000002CC
04.08.09 16:13:08 EDI: 0x0012E3D0
04.08.09 16:13:08 ESI: 0x00000000
04.08.09 16:13:08 EBP: 0x0012E2A8
04.08.09 16:13:08 ESP: 0x0012E298
04.08.09 16:13:08 EIP: 0x77DB9A94, C3 8D A4 24 ?????
04.08.09 16:13:08 EXCEPTION halt in \halopc\haloce\source\tag_files\tag_groups.c,#3157: #-1 is not a valid object_function_block index in [#0,#4)

Corrupt tags, check the tank.