The Halo series was created with a lot of the same stuff and basic storyline of Marathon, Bungie's original first game, designed for the Mac in 1992 - 1996 (Marathon, Marathon 2: Durandal, Marathon Infinity, AlphaOne)

Marathon was the first game made by Bungie, originally designed for the Mac, being before the Windows OS'. Marathon was also featured on the first Mac game console, making Bungie's first Video Game Console release in the early 1990's. Marathon also came with a map editor called "Forge", and an extension called "Anvil", that is showing where Bungie got the name for Halo 3's Forge. Marathon Forge was used to make and edit maps in a 2D and 3D environment, with the ability to add textures, enemies, allies, and enemies that will fight with you. You can add switches, lights, sounds, even make your own campaign. Forge was designed for all Marathon games. (There were updates over time so it would be able to make maps for all Marathon games.)

Marathon 2: Durandal is the sequel to Marathon, it is also one of the first games to feature an online multiplayer, having the ability to play with multiple players via Dial-up, or LAN. This game was released on the Xbox Live Arcade for 800 Microsoft Points, as it was converted over to the console, with minor edits to its original engine, it is still the same game, it has the ability for up to 10+ players on Xbox Live to play "Campaign", or on multiple player maps. This is, overall, the best Marathon game to be released.

Marathon Infinity is not continuing the story, its a "what if this happened" game. It tells the story as if you failed to complete your objective in Marathon (first game), and what would happen to you afterward.

AlphaOne is a open source version of the Marathon series, having DSL capabilities, and also the ability to run Marathon 1, 2, and Infinity maps. It has voice chat, lobby chat, and in-game chat. AlphaOne can also play campaign maps from Marathon Infinite, or Marathon 2: Durandal.


The weapons from the Marathon series are very similar; the MA-75B can be compared to Halo's MA5B, and the Energy Gun can be compared to Halo's Carbine, with the looks of a Plasma Pistol, or even a Plasma Rifle.(the energy gun is a human weapon). The .44 Magnum can be compared to Halo: Combat Evolved's Pistol, having a scope. Some weapons in the Marathon series were duel wieldable too. The Alien Rifle can be compared to Halo's Plasma Rifle. The only non-inherited trait from marathon (overall) was the AR grenade launcher.

The characters from the Marathon series are also very similar, the Marathon "Hunters" can be compared to Halo's Hunters, even by name. The mutated (or whatever) human-look-alikes can be compared to Halo's flood. (they are enemies.) The alien ancients can be compared to the flood as well. There are also floating repair robots that try to kill you, those can be compared to Halo's Sentinels, even by size.

Marathon AlphaOne is still played a lot. (Marathon Infinity is too.)

Im already working on a marathon durandal conversion, and I dont think you should even try this before you finish all your other projects.

Too late.

Old news, but good luck i guess.

Thanks for basically restating what I told you in that previous comment, now the mentally challenged can understand what I am trying to say.

I'd like to see a conversion, but not if it's crappy. HGuru, I, and some other at modcentral were working on it, but the leaders got tired and I moved to other projects.

err no I started this in early 07, I just now revived it.

Yeah, poorly. :P

yall nigga best be joking

Nope. You aren't adding enough detail to your models. I could have done what you did in ten minutes with primitives. Don't show five minutes of work please.

And don't take this the wrong way Grunt. I just get touchy with Marathon to Halo stuff.
Edited by DarkHalo003 on Jan 16, 2009 at 08:41 PM

!!! do they have this feature on the computer version too?

Yes, not sure how to run it though, I have been trying to figure this out, because I have seen it done before.

I modeled that in late 06 what did you expect, I just now rendered it. also its accurate to a pic I saw on the interbutts apparently.

Forge can be run on Windows using an emulator for "Mac to Windows". There are some third party map makers too, one was even made by a Japanese company, lol.

I am playing game on Xbox 360, its very fun.

Its to bad no one plays online, also I beat marathon yesterday.
it was awesome.

WTF are you smoking?

No, it is almost the EXACT basis for the plasma pistol. It's absolutely NOTHING like the carbine from Halo. Also, its called the FUSION pistol. One thing that's funny is that if you hold its charge too long, it explodes (I don't know if this happened in the original Marathon, but it did in M2 and Infinity).
There are two different Alien weapons, though. While both could be comparable to Halo's Plasma Rifle, Marathon 1's is more like the PR than M2's or Infinity's...


The pistol in marathon has a scope PURELY for looks. There is no zoom key in the original marathon, but someone put it in Aleph One. Why? I don't know.


WHAT? They are NOTHING like flood! They don't look, act, sound, or do anything even comparable to the flood except for one thing: They try to kill you.
They are called the Pfhor and are more comparable to the Covenant. They are SLAVERS.
That's the form their bodies are normally like. There are no mutants in the Marathon Universe


????????????
The alien ancients are absolutely nothing like the flood, either. I don't know where the hell you got your info, but you certainly NEVER played the game (except maybe a few minutes).
Also, WHAT floating repair robots??? There's no such thing. There are floating robots in all three marathon games, but they aren't repair robots. Get your facts straight. They MIGHT be comparable to Sentinels by size (if the robots are the ones in M2 Durandal and Infinity), but not a single robot in the entire marathon trilogy has a beam cannon.



I know this because I have almost beaten the Trilogy, but the missions become repetitive, long, and boring.
I'm not going to spoil anything.
I'm just going to say that you got Marathon Infinity's Story a bit wrong. What's happening is that the timeline is being altered by a Jjarro AI. If that confuses you, actually play the game, then.

I was considering doing something like this (Marathon to Halo Conversion) by the time I actually knew how to make use of Open Sauce to edit gravity, as that would be just about all that was needed (well, that, and the health rechargers, the oxygen meter and rechargers, the SWIMMING SYSTEM, the un-halo-like Duel Wielding system, etc.). But as school takes up WAY too much of my time (which passes by too fast nowadays, btw), I have no time to do this.

At least, I was hoping I could make some FP arms for this some time. At least then I could also make a better set of FP arms for Aleph One.

Oh well.

Dude, read the terminals, and I was talking about the Marathon characters that look like humans, but they are not. They will kill you. And I play all 3 games a lot, AlphaOne rocks! online is great on it, I kinda suck, but I am getting better, oh, and on the Xbox 360, Marathon: Durandal rules! A lot easier to see what your doing, but there are some texture mess ups.

The Marathon 2: Durandal robots, they float and shoot at you. (I took this image via computer version of Marathon 2: Durandal)

This is an image from the Xbox 360 version, available via Xbox Live Marketplace for 800 Microsoft Points. (Its worth it too!) (There is a Bob; the tracked/purple guy; and an alien; the green guy; I am not good on remembering the game, I usually just kill em, lol, I did not make this screen shot.)

(Theres a Bob up close, i did not make this screenshot.)

(There are some robots, and the duel wielding of pistols, I did not make this screenshot.)

(There is a robot up close, a better shot, and they are attack drones, I read up a bit, I did not make this image.)

http://marathon.bungie.org/story/garrison.html There is a site to see the story of Marathon.

(Those are what I was refering to the "Alien Ancients" as, and I did not make this image.)

(There is a variety of Hunters that are similar to Halo's because they have a body mounted gun, and are extremely powerful and strong, I did not make this image).

(These can also be compared to the Hunter from Halo, I did not make this image.)

(Various items from Marathon 1, did not make this image.)

http://www.eyrie.org/~aerianne/marathon/ Another site for information and images on the Marathon Series.

Oh, and on the side of some guns and maybe items and other stuff in the Halo Series (even Halo 3), there is the Marathon emblem on, it may even be small: (I did not make this image, but this is the image of the Marathon emblem.)
Edited by KillerKip1 on Jan 17, 2009 at 05:09 PM

I stand by purchasing this game. This is the only arcade game I bought and it was worth it. Only problem is that it's not even close to Halo (In Halo it tells you where to go) in this one you tend to get lost. It would be nice to see this game get so popular that you can just go and play it online.

Telling you which direction to go kinda ruins the adventure. But than again, Halo and Marathon are both good, and Halo was a first of a kind game.

Level modeling 80% done

Killer Kip:

1.) The Fusion Pistol is only similar to the Plasma Pistol.
2.) The engine is called ALEPH ONE, not AlphaOne.
3.) The Bobs aren't like Flood at all. They are merely explosive shells that look like humans. Idk where you get that they are like Flood.
4.) The ancient aliens aren't liek anything in the Halo games.
5.) The Hulk is like the Drinol. The Hunter is obviously similar to Halo's hunter.

I agree with Enzo. Get your facts straight before blaring stuff like that.

I haven't been any of the games yet.

Marathon1: At the part where you kill the Pfhor controlling alien.
Marathon2: The labyrinth with the sentries everywhere and pink lava. Annoying as piss.
Marathon3: ........Idk where I am in that game.lol..........

Don't forget to check out other 3rd party Marathons as well. These are strictly by the Aleph One Engine.

OH RIGHT! I remember now, the guide I read referred to them as Explosive BOBs. That makes some sense.
Edited by DarkHalo003 on Jan 17, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Okay mom.

(I meant the green monster things, not the Bob's, they throw grenades, I don't like em, can't kill them fast.)

LOL

Sorry about my last post, I was in a sour mood at the time.
But the simulacrums... I still don't get the whole comparison to flood thing...
...however, THERE ARE CONCEPTS OF "Infected/fungal" monster concepts (mostly infected pfhor) on bungie's site (their actual site). Those guys would have been similar to the flood, methinks.

The green monster things (which are called... I forgot their name! D:) don't throw grenades of any kind...
If you take a good look, that's poop they're throwing (in the case of the orange ones, fireballs... or flaming poop, I call it). =]
The picture of the treaded cyborg, you called that a bob? Wtf?

The hulk is called the Drinniol in Marathon, Darkhalo, but it would have been almost exactly like the Drinol if the Drinol were created. I think Halo's hunters were more like a cross between Drinniols (they have a powerful melee that crushes the average person), and the Marathon Hunters (just about everything else - the armor, the cannon... yeah.)

BTW I'm on the last level of Marathon Infinity. I want to find the Vidmaster challenge terminal before I beat the game >:V

Anybody know how to run a Mac OS 9 program (Forge) on Windows Xp? I have tried emulators, but they do not work for me. =( just contact me via xfire: KillerKip1

I am sick of "trying" to use Map Editor One to make maps, it is a horrible piece of software.

The result of the boredom of me a floyd

:-\

I'd prefer a Marathon Man that actually looked like the Marathon Man.

I just slapped the helmet on the biped to show it off, you didnt think that was final did you?

Should've crossed the spartan and crewman bipeds. I think you should, for the sake of the Halo fanbase, make it the security Spartan perm. That way, it retains its Marathon theme while satisfying crazy Halo fans.

Modeling a spartan is harder than modeling a human with the helmet.

All he did was take the Pilot's helmet and slap it onto the crewman model. He didn't model it. If he did, it was a large waste of time.

It'd be akward if you made it exactly as Marathon, lol

Also, I am attempting to beat Marathon 2: Durandal on Xbox Live with some of my friends, we found that the levels vary from what you do. Its actually a more adicting game than Halo 3, suprisingly.

cani come.

sure add killerkip1


This is a tad backwards, if I do say myself. I found this mod, and I took those screenshots.
Edited by KillerKip1 on Jan 19, 2009 at 07:59 PM