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Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 12:34 PM    Msg. 1 of 49       
http://www.mediafire.com/?ntjdgpqsvma

Thats the download link, but that file includes about maybe 30 images. And please note, I took these photos off of my phone. SO they are pretty small.

Here are a few-




Edited by Newbkilla on Dec 26, 2008 at 12:35 PM


DEEhunter
Joined: Dec 16, 2006


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 02:14 PM    Msg. 2 of 49       
This is from the halo art book. Scanning copyrighted material and posting download links. Illegal.


Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 02:25 PM    Msg. 3 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
Haha DEE.


I like that AR, doubt anyone will ever get one ingame like that though. :P


Why does it has 3 barrels :\


Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006

I swear I'm not actually dead


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 02:34 PM    Msg. 4 of 49       
the default assault rifle has 2 "barrels"
one is the actual barrel and the other is a flashlight. perhaps that 3rd barrel in the middle i secondary fire?


DEEhunter
Joined: Dec 16, 2006


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 02:38 PM    Msg. 5 of 49       
From the looks of that little white thing it is probably just a grenade launcher of some sort.
Edited by DEEhunter on Dec 26, 2008 at 02:39 PM


Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 02:49 PM    Msg. 6 of 49       
To me, it looks like a strecthed assault rifle with added parts


DEEhunter
Joined: Dec 16, 2006


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 02:51 PM    Msg. 7 of 49       
It tapers at the end of the barrol and there is a nob in front of the ammo counter.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 09:15 PM    Msg. 8 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: DEEhunter
This is from the halo art book. Scanning copyrighted material and posting download links. Illegal.

He is right.

Also that's one of the AR concepts. They probably felt it was too un-halo for the game.


Ermac
Joined: Nov 24, 2006

Pops up from time to time


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 09:18 PM    Msg. 9 of 49       
That looks more like a SAW than an AR. That box mag looks like it'll hold something like 100 rounds.


il Duce Primo
Joined: Apr 22, 2007

CMT Team Leader


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 09:28 PM    Msg. 10 of 49       
Are these all you have?


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 09:37 PM    Msg. 11 of 49       


Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 09:41 PM    Msg. 12 of 49       
30 dollars for a book? wtf


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 09:43 PM    Msg. 13 of 49       
Yeah, because obviously all the time they put into the art and the concepts should be available for free. Think about what you're getting, and the time they put into it. You can get it for 20$, that's not a bad deal at all.


Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 09:54 PM    Msg. 14 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Yeah, because obviously all the time they put into the art and the concepts should be available for free. Think about what you're getting, and the time they put into it. You can get it for 20$, that's not a bad deal at all.


To bad I cant buy anything on the internet >_<


YakZSmelk
Joined: Apr 3, 2006

- Environment Artist - robhow.com


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 10:15 PM    Msg. 15 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Advancebo
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Yeah, because obviously all the time they put into the art and the concepts should be available for free. Think about what you're getting, and the time they put into it. You can get it for 20$, that's not a bad deal at all.


To bad I cant buy anything on the internet >_<


Go to a book store than. Oh yeah the OP is illegal, btw.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 10:21 PM    Msg. 16 of 49       
So Apple should sell OSX for free since they make all that money off ipods, iphones and computers?

You have no idea how Bungie employees and get paid. For all you know, the money from this book is going not into their salleries, but rather to help the company expand and get new equipment and technologies.

I'm not upset I spent 30$ on the book, I don't mind it for what I got. And I am probably one of not even 5 people on this forum who actually WORK for their money.


YakZSmelk
Joined: Apr 3, 2006

- Environment Artist - robhow.com


Posted: Dec 26, 2008 10:22 PM    Msg. 17 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
Masterz think about how much they make off of each person buy a halo 3 gaming card, 360, extra stuff, halo 3, toys... They can live a life time if they wanted. Guess this world never ends in greed. Anyways, these all would be scraped and no one would care, they are all about the money. Thats why: THERE IS EBOOKS To SAVE THE DAY!

To bad you spent that much money though...


I'm assuming what ever profession you go into your planning on doing for charity? It really does sicken me that Doctor's want to be paid for their hard work, and artists want to be paid for the entertainment they give us! It's ridiculous!


Dhark
Joined: Feb 2, 2008

I believe in Dennis Powers


Posted: Dec 27, 2008 01:21 AM    Msg. 18 of 49       
how funny, the IG AR-B has 3 barrels too D: oh noes theyve stoeld our idea! RAAAAAAGE! xD


YakZSmelk
Joined: Apr 3, 2006

- Environment Artist - robhow.com


Posted: Dec 27, 2008 05:12 AM    Msg. 19 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
Quote: --- Original message by: YakZSmelk
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
Masterz think about how much they make off of each person buy a halo 3 gaming card, 360, extra stuff, halo 3, toys... They can live a life time if they wanted. Guess this world never ends in greed. Anyways, these all would be scraped and no one would care, they are all about the money. Thats why: THERE IS EBOOKS To SAVE THE DAY!

To bad you spent that much money though...


I'm assuming what ever profession you go into your planning on doing for charity? It really does sicken me that Doctor's want to be paid for their hard work, and artists want to be paid for the entertainment they give us! It's ridiculous!


Your a moron for not reading and pretending to make them look poor. They make more then any average worker already makes. I have no sympathy.


Actually I'm an art student that knows I'd be pretty pissed if people were saying the time and effort I put into my work wasn't worth anything. And yeah professionals are paid more, because they are good at what they do and have trained hard to be in their position. Oh and not only did they train but they probably paid a whole lot of money for that training. Just throwing it out there since apparently I misread "people shouldn't be paid for they're hard work".


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Dec 27, 2008 06:36 PM    Msg. 20 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
So Apple should sell OSX for free since they make all that money off ipods, iphones and computers?

You have no idea how Bungie employees and get paid. For all you know, the money from this book is going not into their salleries, but rather to help the company expand and get new equipment and technologies.

I'm not upset I spent 30$ on the book, I don't mind it for what I got. And I am probably one of not even 5 people on this forum who actually WORK for their money.

Did you buy yours at the store or on Amazon? I'm trying to find it at the store since I hate ordering off of the internet in most cases.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Dec 27, 2008 07:22 PM    Msg. 21 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
And to all the idiots saying you go to jail, yea.. 5 in 500,000 americans do on a good year. :|


And on a bad year?


DEEhunter
Joined: Dec 16, 2006


Posted: Dec 27, 2008 07:31 PM    Msg. 22 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
And to all the idiots saying you go to jail, yea.. 5 in 500,000 americans do on a good year. :|


And on a bad year?

5.7 from there head getting shot off.


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Dec 27, 2008 08:47 PM    Msg. 23 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
This world is all about money.
Been a coma? Whan has it not? You should read more history.
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
they made so much profit it most likely payed all loans and workers.
That was exactly the point, it is also paying for future games they make
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
And to all the idiots saying you go to jail, yea.. 5 in 500,000 americans do on a good year.
Condoning piracy or blatent copyright infringement and theft is not allowed in this forum.


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Dec 27, 2008 08:54 PM    Msg. 24 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
Also, I read my history, but now more then ever people are getting so greedy they would let people beside them die.
I can safely say that your experience in this is limited and your perspective is skewed.


Me KS
Joined: Feb 2, 2008

Desire is Reality. Xfire: jetmaster23


Posted: Dec 28, 2008 08:19 PM    Msg. 25 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
This world is all about money. Thats why its heading to the state of being doomed. Just by selling all there copies of halo, they made so much profit it most likely payed all loans and workers. So thats not even in the arguement. Its like the CEO's of the big auto makers. They get paid so much and they don't care about people who are living with 10 dollars an hour. So if they want my dime, it better be something I actually think its worth buying. They already made me pay alot. Just cause they want the extra buck, im not giving it. I love living in a free world. And to all the idiots saying you go to jail, yea.. 5 in 500,000 americans do on a good year. :|

heh, this is off topic though.


What is the purpose of money? I'll tell you: it gives people an incentive to contribute to society. Let me explain: nobody would have a job if it weren't for money, correct? This means that nobody would want to do work for anybody else because, as human beings, we are self-centered, and without any reward, working is useless. The solution? provide a reward that can be traded in for anything else that person wants, if there's enough of it: money. And so now people have a reason to contribute to society by doing work for somebody, whether it be a corporation, small business, the government, or even just your neighbors.

Money is the incentive to work. Without money, nobody would care about contributing anything to anyone else, and society would probably never advance or even degrade because nobody cares about anyone else. It's the simple give-and-take trading mentality behind money that keeps the world going. I don't care how many downsides to this there are, you can't honestly tell me that a world without money would be perfect. Human nature works against it. The world would literaly stop dead in its tracks if money was globally abolished or something. Money is the way to force people to contribute to something while satisfying their selfish needs. That's why it still exists after so many centuries.

Also, you think CEO's have it easy? You think they don't deserve their money? Their entire working life is spent running a huge business, which is a lot of work. They probably took years of hard work to reach such a position, and now you say they don't deserve extra money? Also, who the hell said it was the CEO's responsibility to give a damn about those who make 10 dollars an hour? Those who make 10 dollars an hour should probably find a better job, because I'm sure the CEO didn't get any help moving up to his position, so that guy is on his own as well, no matter how tough his situation is. That's life.

I'm sorry, but some guy who sits on his butt working at McDonalds with the most ridiculously easy job ever deserves his 10 dollars an hour. Why? Because his job is so easy. Common sense, isn't it?


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Dec 29, 2008 01:43 PM    Msg. 26 of 49       
It's a good book. About 50-100 pages of pure art. Weapon concepts, vehicles, maps/structures and Bipeds.


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Dec 29, 2008 01:57 PM    Msg. 27 of 49       
He's right, concept artists get paid a lot. While people working at Mc Donalds get an average pay of 4-7 dollars. Oh wait, theres Government tax too! Its more probably $3-6.


K_I_D
Joined: Nov 27, 2008

If you are cool, this will be your avatar quote.


Posted: Dec 29, 2008 02:06 PM    Msg. 28 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
See, my problem isn't that the concept artists get payed to much, that's what there payed for. But Microcrap and bungie are just trying to rip people off with all these high prices.

I still agree though with the CEO's, they make to much money. They ride planes that are 20k a trip while there company is in ruin. So dont tell me I have a skewed world view, that means you do.
Ik not all CEO's do, but the high ones do. They dont diserve more then 100k per year, not 3 million dollars.


I know man it sucks, big time. Fireman, and policemen get crap compared to these inbred greedy grubworms get. Entertainment makes more than what really matters.


Me KS
Joined: Feb 2, 2008

Desire is Reality. Xfire: jetmaster23


Posted: Dec 29, 2008 04:22 PM    Msg. 29 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter

KS if you haven't noticed I dropped it. But when you say CEO's have it easy, you are correct. If anything they have the most easiest job. They dont do crap apart of everyone else having to do there work. All they got to do is make sure everything is being completed as needed for the company. That deserves a few million dollars in bonus pay? Hah, yea, then so do the guys on the street. Drop it.
EDIT: you talk as though you dont even know life yet. People at MCdonalds work there ass off for a few dollars.. you claim that's easy then staying in an office? Your morals are utterly messed and disgusting.
Edited by Joshflighter on Dec 29, 2008 at 01:55 PM


We both don't know what adult life is. Don't try to use that as an argument. We're both going by observation, so we're even in that area. Obviously we have very very different world views xD...

So wait ... standing at a Drive-thru window handing out food is a difficult job? You call that working your butt off? Not so much. Is there any thought process involved in such a job? Did those people go through a college education to get a Bachelor's degree in Handing out Food? So tell me, do they deserve more money than they get? Nope. They get what they work for, which isn't much.

On the other hand, the CEO probably got a thorough college education for many thousands of dollars, unlike the McDonald's guy. The CEO probably worked for years for companies just as an average employee, doing truly difficult office work for much less pay, raising his ranks through the companies, unlike the McDonald's guy. The CEO finally got promoted to one of the highest ranks there is after many years of difficult work, and so he finally gets the pay he deserves for his effort that actually involves using your brain, unlike the McDonald's guy.

Whereas the McDonald's guy was a 16-year old kid not even finished with high school, did a 10 minute job interview, and was hired. Done.

Interesting, isn't it?

So you still believe that the CEO doesn't deserve his money? That he just magically popped up into his position, sat on a big fat chair, and took his millions of dollars?

I don't care if big corporations are greedy. I don't care. Where do we get our food? Where do we get our entertainment products? Where do we get the clothes on our back? Where do we get just about anything we can get? From big corporations. I love how all corporations are automatically greedy money machines to you guys. Don't you understand that businesses have to survive too? That they need to make a profit? Part of the work involved in making a profit is raising prices, because if they don't, they don't earn money. So just because they're raising prices, it's a rip-off? It's greedy? Give me a break. The whole point of a business is to make massive amounts of money.

You wouldn't have the computer where you criticize Microsoft on a forum if it wasn't for Microsoft.

You wouldn't have Halo 1, Halo 2, and Halo 3 at all if it wasn't for Bungie.

You wouldn't have an internet where you can badmouth all of the internet companies on forums if it wasn't for those very same internet companies.

Do you see the blatant hypocrisy here?

It seems almost like you guys won't be happy until everyone is exactly equal, until we're all living in the world where everyone is a clone of each other, mindlessly happy because they don't have to get off their butt to do anything. Everything is right in front of them, no work needed. This is the mentality of the lazy person. This is the mentality of communism, and it's the worst theory ever to come out of anybody's head. Not that you guys specifically support it or anything near it, but those opinions are the same opinions that gave birth to communism.

Face it: you guys are just kids rebelling against the world as it is because you just plain don't understand the definition of "dealing with something as it is." "No no no, the world is terrible! It must be changed because I am not happy with it!" Am I the only kid who is perfectly satisfied with the world as it is? Who looks at the bright side? Who deals with the world as it is? This is why there are so many spoiled people, kids and adults, in America. They get everything that they want, but they're still not happy, so they criticize America, the world, capitalism, you name it, because they're too spoiled to appreciate what they have and just be happy with it. I'm not saying you guys personally do this, but people in general. Not that you don't have the right to an opinion, but can't you just sit back, relax, and be grateful? Living in America, there really is nothing to complain about. You have a house, clothes, food, even entertainment. What's the point?

I'm as grateful as can be. I love my family, love my life, love my country, and love the whole world. Don't you forget it.

Wow...huge post.

And let's not get personal. This is just a good debate, and I like talking about world issues. People have different opinions, you know. You don't have to say mine is "messed and disgusting".


DEEhunter
Joined: Dec 16, 2006


Posted: Dec 29, 2008 04:30 PM    Msg. 30 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Quote: --- Original message by: DEEhunter
This is from the halo art book. Scanning copyrighted material and posting download links. Illegal.

He is right.

Also that's one of the AR concepts. They probably felt it was too un-halo for the game.


Me KS
Joined: Feb 2, 2008

Desire is Reality. Xfire: jetmaster23


Posted: Dec 29, 2008 04:42 PM    Msg. 31 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
Hey tardo, get this through your brain. You have no idea what you are talking about. Im not reading the wall of text sadly cause you could have summed it up for more readable pleasure. I dont feel like reading all that bull. You haven't worked yet I see so you have no say. As Dennis told me, your views are skewed. Go out and really see what life is about kid.


Okay then. I see you're very mature and can handle a simple debate. Clearly, you must be a very hard working person and definitely know what it is to live life if you can't even read five paragraphs on an internet forum without losing your attention or getting angry and writing an insulting post as your intelligent response. You must be a very level-headed adult to be able to respect another person's opinion so readily like you did, even after I clearly said not to get personal for the better of all of us and tried to be lighthearted about it. Such a good "adult", who just happens to be just as old as I am, yet claims to know the meaning of "work" and calls me "kid" as if I'm a lot younger than he is and claims that I have no right to an opinion despite the fact that we are in the same age group...

You are so lost in your anger. You can't even take on a different opinion. I know 6-year old kids who are more respectful and mature than you are right now.

So I'm just going to stop. I'm not replying to you anymore. You can't handle it.


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Dec 29, 2008 07:17 PM    Msg. 32 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
Don't you see? You already fail. I didn't have to debate. There is no point to. I was right from when we started. You simply cant comprehend what I'm saying and haven't got it in your head. So I simply will state again, you are a immature prick who thinks people who dont do crap should be payed high. Don't forget, the same people that get payed high, are sending jobs over-seas just to get more money in the company and in there pockets. But since you dont have a grasp on how things go, ill let you be how you are. :)
You don't have the whole picture. You are missing the part where the stockholders demand that the stock value and price goes up, after all that is why they bought stock. The stock holders, meaning investors and the employees who have 401K plans are in essence the CEO's boss and they are the ones who decide how much the corporation should make. Make only a little they sell the stock, make allot people buy it. Most stock holders don't take an active role or even vote at stockholder meetings so they abrogate their authority to the board of directors (the CEO’s direct boss) and just want their stock prices to go up. Go up by any means.

It is true that there are some corporations that make mistakes, are short sided and the employee gets hurt but most know that the employee base is the third most important “person” in the company. The first is the stock holder. The second the customer. So caught between losing the stock holder by not increasing the value of the stock and the employee most will lose the employee because the stock holder just wants the value of the stock to go up so his 401K will get bigger and the customer just wants lower prices. Those stock holders are the “working” people like your parents or relatives.

I spent 30 years in the corporate world before going out on my own, I worked for many corporations in middle and upper management and I can tell you from direct experience that the hardest decision a manager or CEO has to make is to get rid of people, but many times there is no choice. I left the corporate world because the stock holders, those anonymous working people, demanded higher stock prices regardless of the cost to other working people. As a sole proprietor I answer only to my customers and can make decisions about my business that a CEO can’t.

I am sure your dad, or uncle or some other working person in your family has either lost their job or been a victim of the economic down turn and that has instilled in you such a vitriolic response to companies making money, and I am sorry for that, but it is not as simple as you think. Not by a longshot.


Me KS
Joined: Feb 2, 2008

Desire is Reality. Xfire: jetmaster23


Posted: Dec 30, 2008 09:06 PM    Msg. 33 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: OHunterO
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You are begining to act like you know the world and that You are correct in every aspect. And that you are superior to everyone else.

And everyone else SHHHHH! :)

Topic could do with being locked.

:P


There is no way I think I know it all. I don't. I just happen to have an opinion, and I like to express it pretty well. I clearly said in one of my posts that it was just a debate. I don't think I'm superior to anybody.

However, if you want somebody who thinks they know it all:

Quote: --- Original message by: Joshflighter
Don't you see? You already fail. I didn't have to debate. There is no point to. I was right from when we started. You simply cant comprehend what I'm saying and haven't got it in your head. So I simply will state again, you are a immature prick who thinks people who dont do crap should be payed high. Don't forget, the same people that get payed high, are sending jobs over-seas just to get more money in the company and in there pockets. But since you dont have a grasp on how things go, ill let you be how you are. :)


I love it how you have the nerve to call me arrogant and a know-it-all while there's this guy right under me calling me an idiot for having a different opinion and saying that he was automatically right from the start, as if he thinks everything he spews out is a fact. Did I ever say that my opinion was right? Would you like to quote me on that? You're just siding with the more respected person. Just what I'd expect from you.


DEEhunter
Joined: Dec 16, 2006


Posted: Dec 30, 2008 09:09 PM    Msg. 34 of 49       
Quote: --- Original message by: DEEhunter
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Quote: --- Original message by: DEEhunter
This is from the halo art book. Scanning copyrighted material and posting download links. Illegal.

He is right.

Also that's one of the AR concepts. They probably felt it was too un-halo for the game.


TVTyrant
Joined: Mar 16, 2008

Who am I?


Posted: Dec 31, 2008 12:15 AM    Msg. 35 of 49       
CEO pay is certainly not unfair. It is quite true that they go to college and go through many rigorous acts in order to achieve that high pay standard.
However it is untrue that the man who works at McDonald's is undeserving of more pay or does no work. While he may seem to be only standing there, handing food through a window, he is probably making $7.00 an hour or less, and probably has kids. There is practically no way to support kids on a pay-chech like that.
On the other hand, some CEOs make upwards of $1,000,000 a year, and most of them sit in offices all day looking at colored charts of how much money they're going to make. Alot ship their jobs to other countries, which both means that they have to pay less taxes and that they are taking jobs that Americans could do.
So this takes away the ability of the McDonald's man to upgrade his pay, and since the McDonald's man HAS to pay his taxes, a large amount of his pay gets squandered that HE needs, while the CEO gets another massive deduction for filing his tax return from another country.
But the McDonald's man gave up his chances. Say he did alot of drugs in high school, and dropped out in his freshman year. If this is America we're talking about, he has no health insurance, so if he gets hurt he has no compensation. But these were HIS choices to make.


Obviously a wall of text, but you get the idea. It goes both ways in the end, but I would never sympathize with the rich man over the poor man. And I would never sympathize with the poor man over the middle class, which is the heart of the world. (IMO of course)

 
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