ok, i downloaded HEK + so i could extract scenario tags and edit them in sapien (3ds max is dam expensive, so i might as well get a pre-made map)
anyway, i got the tags(all of em), put them in the test/test directory, and tried to open em up with sapien but. . .
it quickly launches and just as quickly shuts down. almost instantly after opening up the file.
all i can make out are about 4 white boxes

please post a direct link to a fix if you have one,
i believe that the program was downloaded wrong and is corrupted, so if you know where i can get an exact copy of sapien without haveing to re-download HEK, that would be appricieated

thanks

you have to debug the tags. open all tags in guerilla and fix red

A good way to figure out which ones to fix is to open debug.txt in your halo ce root directory. Theres probably a lot in there, just pay attention to the time stamp and only look at whats about the time Sapien closed on you.

Another tip is to look for the error numbers like #444 etc in the debug.txt and use the forum search to see if a solution has already been posted.


Edited by SGWraith on Aug 8, 2007 at 08:24 PM

hmmm
it seems like i am missing just about everything. . .

08.08.07 18:37:58 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.08.07 18:37:58 reference address: 401b13
08.08.07 18:37:58 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'


08.08.07 18:38:27 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.08.07 18:38:27 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.08.07 18:38:27 reference address: 401b13
08.08.07 18:38:27 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'


08.08.07 18:38:53 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.08.07 18:38:53 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.08.07 18:38:53 reference address: 401b13
08.08.07 18:38:53 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'


08.08.07 18:39:30 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.08.07 18:39:30 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.08.07 18:39:30 reference address: 401b13
08.08.07 18:39:30 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'


08.08.07 22:56:49 tool pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.08.07 22:56:49 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.08.07 22:56:49 reference address: 42ca20
08.08.07 22:56:49 Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'


08.08.07 22:57:53 tool pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.08.07 22:57:53 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.08.07 22:57:53 reference address: 42ca20
08.08.07 22:57:53 Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'


08.08.07 22:59:11 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.08.07 22:59:11 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.08.07 22:59:11 reference address: 401b13
08.08.07 22:59:11 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'


08.08.07 23:04:52 tool pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.08.07 23:04:52 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.08.07 23:04:52 reference address: 42ca20
08.08.07 23:04:52 Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'
08.08.07 23:04:52 file_open('tags\sky\clear afternoon\extinction_skyofdoom.sky') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
08.08.07 23:04:52 couldn't open sky tag 'extinction_skyofdoom.sky'.
08.08.07 23:04:52 file_open('tags\vehicles\wasp\wasp_mp.vehicle') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
08.08.07 23:04:52 couldn't open vehicle tag 'wasp_mp.vehicle'.
08.08.07 23:04:52 failed to load scenario tag 'levels\map\map'
08.08.07 23:04:52 file_open('tags\sky\clear afternoon\extinction_skyofdoom.sky') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
08.08.07 23:04:52 couldn't open sky tag 'extinction_skyofdoom.sky'.
08.08.07 23:04:52 file_open('tags\vehicles\wasp\wasp_mp.vehicle') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
08.08.07 23:04:52 couldn't open vehicle tag 'wasp_mp.vehicle'.
08.08.07 23:04:52 failed to load scenario tag 'levels\map\map'
08.08.07 23:04:52 need to get the following tags:
08.08.07 23:04:52 sky\clear afternoon\extinction_skyofdoom.sky
08.08.07 23:04:52 vehicles\wasp\wasp_mp.vehicle
08.08.07 23:04:52


08.08.07 23:05:39 tool pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.08.07 23:05:39 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.08.07 23:05:39 reference address: 42ca20
08.08.07 23:05:39 Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'


08.08.07 23:10:07 tool pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.08.07 23:10:07 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.08.07 23:10:07 reference address: 42ca20
08.08.07 23:10:07 Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'


08.08.07 23:18:40 tool pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.08.07 23:18:40 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.08.07 23:18:40 reference address: 42ca20
08.08.07 23:18:40 Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'
08.08.07 23:18:40 file_open('tags\sky\clear afternoon\extinction_skyofdoom.sky') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
08.08.07 23:18:40 couldn't open sky tag 'extinction_skyofdoom.sky'.
08.08.07 23:18:40 file_open('tags\vehicles\wasp\wasp_mp.vehicle') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
08.08.07 23:18:40 couldn't open vehicle tag 'wasp_mp.vehicle'.
08.08.07 23:18:40 failed to load scenario tag 'levels\map\map'
08.08.07 23:18:40 file_open('tags\sky\clear afternoon\extinction_skyofdoom.sky') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
08.08.07 23:18:40 couldn't open sky tag 'extinction_skyofdoom.sky'.
08.08.07 23:18:40 file_open('tags\vehicles\wasp\wasp_mp.vehicle') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
08.08.07 23:18:40 couldn't open vehicle tag 'wasp_mp.vehicle'.
08.08.07 23:18:40 failed to load scenario tag 'levels\map\map'
08.08.07 23:18:40 need to get the following tags:
08.08.07 23:18:40 sky\clear afternoon\extinction_skyofdoom.sky
08.08.07 23:18:40 vehicles\wasp\wasp_mp.vehicle
08.08.07 23:18:40


08.08.07 23:28:42 tool pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.08.07 23:28:42 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.08.07 23:28:42 reference address: 42ca20
08.08.07 23:28:42 Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'
08.08.07 23:28:46 WARNING: 1 clusters in structure_bsp levels\map\map have no background sound or sound environment.
08.08.07 23:28:46 loc: Tried to add item ui\hud\hud_icon_messages with different size (1136) than expected (1096).


08.08.07 23:32:25 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.08.07 23:32:25 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.08.07 23:32:25 reference address: 401b13
08.08.07 23:32:25 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'


08.09.07 09:13:04 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.09.07 09:13:04 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.09.07 09:13:04 reference address: 401b13
08.09.07 09:13:04 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'


08.09.07 09:14:55 guerilla pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.09.07 09:14:55 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.09.07 09:14:55 reference address: 4011a4
08.09.07 09:14:55 Couldn't read map file './guerillabeta.map'

it appears that i am missing the sapienbeta.map along with the tool and gorilla beta maps as well,

can someone PLEASE copy their sapienbeta.map and send it to me by e-mail??

it is tllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!

and if it is no trouble can u also send the gorillabeta.map also, i have HEK+ so i dont need tool .. . .

so, in conclusion,
PLEASE SEND ME sapienbeta.map AND gorillabeta.map PLEASE!!!!
lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Edited by mlhrj5 on Aug 9, 2007 at 09:36 PM

Edit out your email to avoid spam. All caps and repetition are unnecessary and don't help you.



That is the only important error. Next time just empty the debug file and reopen the map in sapien to narrow down the error. If you do that, then the only error that should be in there is the one related to your problem.

The betamap errors can be ignored. If you find them annoying, I have recently read on another thread here that you can make those files with notepad - save new files as : sapienbeta.map , guerillabeta.map , and toolbeta.map and put them in your halo ce root directory. I believe H Guru posted that one.

If you examine the error block I quoted, you will see that all you really need to do is get those two tags:




Edited by SGWraith on Aug 9, 2007 at 11:48 AM

I DID look at the errors and add the tags, but when i tried to open it up again, it said it could not read the sapienbeta.map


ALSO i did create a new text document and named it sapienbeta.map , but it still gives the same error

08.09.07 11:01:27 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.09.07 11:01:27 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.09.07 11:01:27 reference address: 401b13
08.09.07 11:01:27 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'

and still opens up and just as quickly exits . . .

so can anyone send it to me???
llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Edited by mlhrj5 on Aug 9, 2007 at 12:03 PM
Edited by mlhrj5 on Aug 9, 2007 at 09:37 PM

Its not important . . . and no one has any of those betamaps. We all get that error but it can be ignored. You can make that file in NOTEPAD if you paided attention to what I just posted above you. Then that error will go away.

If your tags really are there, then empty your debug.txt so that its completely blank - erase anything in it. Save it. Then reopen the map in Sapien.

If when you reopen the debug.txt you see the exact same error about the missing tags then you need to go fix the red text in Guerilla. The files may be there but if the tags that need them (the ones that fail to load) don't know where those files are then it still counts as an error.

Go read a tutorial on how to get custom vehicles in game for help on the wasp. Edit your map.scenario sky field so that it points to extinction_skyofdoom.sky


Edited by SGWraith on Aug 9, 2007 at 12:14 PM

ok
all of what u just said i have already done

except. . .
i need you to explain a little more about fixing the red text with gorilla,
i think that may help. . .

Red text = a file that gorilla can't find. Open your map.scenario and look for any red text. sky of doom should be one in the skybox field. Its close to the top of that file. If you look under vehicles, I believe that you will see red text for the wasp.

What you do is hit the ... button and go navigate around in your tags folder until you find the file it wants. You'll know when you select the file and the red text dissappears.

nope
i looked around and found no red text

afternoon\extinction_skyofdoom

i already have that tag along with the other vehi tag,

i have created 2 new notepad documente named sapienbeta.map and guerillabeta.map
they both have .txt at the end of them and i keep getting the same error



08.09.07 11:17:36 guerilla pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.09.07 11:17:36 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.09.07 11:17:36 reference address: 4011a4
08.09.07 11:17:36 Couldn't read map file './guerillabeta.map'

and



08.09.07 11:23:21 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.09.07 11:23:21 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.09.07 11:23:21 reference address: 401b13
08.09.07 11:23:21 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'

save as .map

If it says sapienbeta.map.txt then erase the .txt

Is there a large sapien error block? From when sapien closes? I want to know if its still the same one that says that the sky and the wasp tags are missing.

no no error block
just open and close

nothing says the sky and wasp tags are missing anymore, i fixed that

txt means its a text document format, and not a .map\halo map

i dont know if there is a foremat that allows it to be a .map
unless tool can do it. . .

When you save it type in the .map extensions and save it. If the .txt appears, rename it windows explorer and cut that part off.

If Sapien still closes there IS an error block - its in your debug.txt

08.09.07 12:44:11 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.09.07 12:44:11 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.09.07 12:44:11 reference address: 401b13
08.09.07 12:44:11 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'

and can u elaborate a little more on the whole txt map file?
or send me a link to the origional forum for that. . .

It was in this forum section within the last day or two. And I described all there was to do it.

If it says sapienbeta.map.txt rename it to sapienbeta.map by right clicking on it and choosing rename. And remember that is should be in your halo ce root directory.

What would really help me help you is if you post your latest sapien error that has something to do with your tags or includes an error number. The beta map errors have nothing to do with why sapien is closing. Really.

my last sapien error was the same as the first. . .

08.09.07 18:14:45 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.09.07 18:14:45 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.09.07 18:14:45 reference address: 401b13
08.09.07 18:14:45 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'

that is the only error i ever get, even when i open guerila, i get the same error. . .

08.09.07 18:14:31 guerilla pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.09.07 18:14:31 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.09.07 18:14:31 reference address: 4011a4
08.09.07 18:14:31 Couldn't read map file './guerillabeta.map'

the same with tool . . .

i also want to know if you had the same problem when you first opened up sapien. . .

You don't get any other errors but those but you still can't open the scenario??

Post your whole debug again after trying to open the map. You said you fixed them, if the error (the one complaining about tags) is still there then there is something more to be done.



Edited by SGWraith on Aug 9, 2007 at 08:01 PM

I thought teh ganon was making a tutorial for this ?????????????????????

oh well, try sending the tags to someone. but i can make a tut, though i feel that would be a rip of off ganon, but then i accually did a video tut on fixing tags, BUT that came out messed up and i made this tut before ganon said hed make the tut... so idk if i should remake it

there are no other errors AT ALL.
only the error that says. . .
08.09.07 20:07:32 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.09.07 20:07:32 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.09.07 20:07:32 reference address: 401b13
08.09.07 20:07:32 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'

i then deleated the debug.txt and reopened sapien,
this is what it said. . .(all it said)



08.09.07 20:20:35 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.09.07 20:20:35 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.09.07 20:20:35 reference address: 401b13
08.09.07 20:20:35 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'


i also just tried to copy another map and name it sapienbeta.map and this error came up. . .
08.09.07 20:09:03 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
08.09.07 20:09:03 reference function: _write_to_error_file
08.09.07 20:09:03 reference address: 401b13
08.09.07 20:09:03 map file appears corrupt

so there must be a file that says sapienbeta.map
please look for it, make a search for it and make sure it is looking for hiddin files also, just in case,

if you do find it, please send it to me

llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
i will not send spam back to you and would care less if you send spam to me.
i just want that map file
Edited by mlhrj5 on Aug 9, 2007 at 09:22 PM
Edited by mlhrj5 on Aug 9, 2007 at 09:38 PM

SAPIEN BETA.MAP IS ONLY A FILE THAT THE BUNGIE TEAM HAD. no one had it, no one will have it. no one on the forum has sapienbeta.map its in youre head, not the tag

wait
i have a dual core.
but i tried to do what you just sugested (frozen phonex)
but it still does not open
and when i reopen it
i have to reset the dual core usage again

tell me if this is normal, or if it does not save the setting for only one stand alone core
ok thanks
Edited by mlhrj5 on Aug 9, 2007 at 09:44 PM

well sorry if i was harsh on you. but its not sapienbeta.map causing it. you mightof accidentally screwed hek up.try reinstalling. i will search for sapienbeta.map once i get on a computer

wait you mightive put em in the wrong flder... are they in the halo ce/tags/levels/test folder. sendme the tag link where u got em and ill debug
Edited by __napalm__ on Aug 10, 2007 at 09:26 AM

WAIT. . .
you are saying all the things are supposed to be in the
C:/program files/microsoft games/halo custom edition/tags/levels/test????
i have them in the directory of just
C:/program files/microsoft games/halo custom edition/
please tell me this is the problem. . .

that's right. ill try putting a map where u put it and open the scenerio. that might be ur problem. try opening the scenerio in guerilla and tell us if its filled out like has skies added at the top and stuff

i garentee you thats youre problem
Edited by __napalm__ on Aug 10, 2007 at 09:32 AM

DONT WORRY

I HAVE FIXED THE PROBLEM

IF ANYONE ELSE HAS A PROBLEM LIKE THIS ONE, CONTACT ME BY XFIRE

mlhrj5

and who solved youre problem??

his name was killer kiwi,
i saw his map and i looked him up on xfire
he told me some things that no one on this forum mentioned
and now my sapien works!!

but now i have another problem
look for a new post callde "my vehicles wont play"

Ignore the warning about not being able to find sapienbeta.map no one has it. To get it so you don't always have to open task manager when you use sapien, just set the program compadability to windows 98.

Make the game window bigger? It defaults to being small.

Run radiosity and / or move the camera.

Press ~
Type in:
radiosity_start

or type in radiosity_quality 1 before it if you want it better, although depending on the map it may take awhile.

Press the ~ key.

In the game window it will say Halo (
on the bottom right hand corner.
Just like when you have dev-mode on in Halo.