I actually can't believe that people still use the argument
"Lots of people like it/support it! Therefore it must be good!"
Tons of people followed and supported the Nazis! They must have been pretty good!
Tons of people subscribe to the belief of Christianity/Islam/Buddhism etc, therefore it must be true!

Its not a logical way to argue for anything.

Personally I had some fun with Halo 2, but it had tons of problems.

BXR (and the BR in general really), being a jack-of-all-trades god weapon meant that there was almost no reason to indulge in half of Halos sandbox aside from some power weapons.

Missions that are extremely linear and boring. With ridiculous/unnecessary set-pieces.
Visually the game is very dull and saturated.
These are all huge problems that Halo 3 addressed to bring closer to Halo 1.

Again Halo 2 has its highlights, the music especially I think outshines all the other entries to the series.

If I think back to anything I liked in Halo 2, it's the music.
11/10 top notch stuff.

Art in the game was very meh.
Art-wise: Reach > H3 > H1 > H2

Everything else isn't very memorable.

I've always agreed with Masterz' legendary-only approach to playing Halo games, and that's honestly ruined a lot of them for me. I'm looking at Reach and Halo 2. I play legendary because I expect this is where only the best Halo players can slay enemy AI, taking their accumulated knowledge from the entire franchise and applying it in the single player campaign. This difficulty should demand near-perfect performance and strategy while not becoming unfairly difficult for the sake of seeming intimidating and unbeatable.

Am I the only one that doesn't play legendary?

I usually don't.
I like making rash decisions and Legendary punishes too much for me to do that.

I typically do first or second difficultly for the first run through, since I typically go for the story more than anything, then I'll maybe run through on heroic for kicks. I think I have beaten the full series on legendary, but I only did it once per game, sans 1 which I have played many times on each difficulty. Heroic being my favorite

Masters1337sucks.com, tell me more when you throw your temper tantrum.

First Halo game I ever played: Halo 3
Second Halo game I ever played: Halo reach
First Halo game I ever owned myself: Halo CE
My favourite Halo campaign ever: Halo 2
Was Xbox live still there when I got it: No

So no...



Even if Halo 3 was my first Halo game I ever played, the campaign mighty disappointed me

No, I'm not saying that it was bad, it was just way less memorable.


The coolest Forerunner buildings weren't nearly as cool and mysterious as Halo 2's

There was a lack of immersion, I really didn't care less about the Arcs history, but I was really interested to know more of Delta Halo's history

The characters were dumbed down, especially truth, from the wise one in Halo 2 to an annoying old priest in Halo 3, even the arbiters felt less heroic

I really don't know why people liked Halo 3's campaign more then 2's, even with better game design it was way less memorable
Edited by lolslayer on May 21, 2016 at 07:49 AM

Speaking of, did they ever update the Cortana model? They keep skipping those cutscenes in the streams I've seen.

boi, what a sh@#show...

Hokiebird will be streaming SPV3 for a few hours today. You can check his stream out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiywP8KnnPY

And no, Cortana has not yet received an update.

Plse give her long hair.

Plse preserve the unique feel of the original.

I want black Cortana

That's an oxymoron.

Sterotypical or just colour change?

You're not the hero we deserve, but the one we need.

And proyectspearhead is even worse than Halo 5's. IOSAleX please dont grab masters balls.

Where are your arguments? And what makes Halo 5's game design bad? Except for storyline and campaign length I didn't hear many bad things about it

But aren't those, like, the most important aspects of campaign? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The most important part of a game is that it's fun to play, and I've heard many people saying it is fun to play
Edited by lolslayer on May 22, 2016 at 02:35 PM

I didn't even play Halo 5, after H4 was such a disappointment to me.

4 had a better story then say the likes of Reach buy the gameplay was disappointing. 5 was 4 with a worse story

Everything is Realtive

take a gif

Why would you waste time when you have fun?

A Halo game is a REAL Halo game if you have fun AND if it's immersive, but the fundamental rule for a good game is it to be fun to play

Oh, lol

The two are more closely related than people here seem to understand. Both H2's and H5's story are poor in the fact they diminish the gameplay. H2's story forces you to play as a character who has a poor variety of weapon choices and enemies to fight, and ruins any gradual introduction and layering of content through the games story, instead swapping out gameplay elements for worse ones as the game goes on.

H5's first 2 missions, especially after the patch are quite good! But the problem with the story effecting gameplay starts when you go to meridian. 3 hours of the near same environment and firefight style encounters against the same enemies, with the same weapons? H1 did make you walk around AOTCR back and forth for around that time, but at least then there was a huge difference in the encounters and moods of those 2 levels. H5's woes continue after Blue Teams second mission, which again is quite good, but then stick you on Sangelios, again with multiple levels of same enemies and same environments... although they do sprinkle some promethian in. Then the problem continues again on Genisis, an environment you have already played through for a good hour before against the same enemies and weapons again...

But all in all, the campaign gameplay of H5, especially after the recent path is quite good. It's really everything else after the 2 first missions that fall flat on it's face.

Don't bee to salty with your MOTD Masterz1337, haven't you heard of enough people that they liked Halo 2? Didn't you start to think that there is more then only game design that makes a game good?

And haven't you heard enough that popular things aren't necessarily good?

Like missing release dates.

Do you use your head before you spew garbage?

Please explain me why so many people love Undertale even if it has bad game design, I would love to see you answer it, or Masters1337

I've never played nor bother to read anything about Undertale. And I don't know why you are quoting someone not me when asking me a question.

There is dumb entertainment and there is good entertainment in every medium.

For every Hugeass.map there is a Bigass.map
For every Batman vs Superman there is a Winter Soldier.
For every One Tree Hill there is a Breaking Bad
For every Miley Cyrus there is a Taylor Swift
For every Kanye West there is an Eminem
For every Kardashian there is a... well any family is better than them, but less popular.

My point being, some people like really crappy stuff/people that is as popular as quality stuff/people. Maybe you are one of those people who likes the Kardashians. **** if I know. Maybe you think H5 is the best Halo multiplayer because you have so much fun in forge and not playing the actual game.

You are probably to young to appreciate what exactly Halo 1 is and the things it did. If you did, you'd understand that Halo 2 is a step backwards in nearly every direction, with it's only non artistic saving grace being it's match making features and online play, which sucked back in the day compared to nearly everything else but was so easy to use and created a real social environment it launched a revolution.

I'm not going to bother with trying to justify my feelings on this to you when you haven't even bothered to read or respond to the well written article I had earlier posted, which summed up several of my thoughts. In fact, don't even bother responding until you've read that, and then played through both H1 and H2 legendary back to back. Remember, the first game was designed to be played on legendary AS SAID BY ITS DEVELOPERS and H2 should be held to that same expectation. Until them stop trolling me on here and Youtube. Until you can back up your feelings with facts and data, what you say is garbage.