That's pretty cool looking, maybe we will do something similar. Right now it still doesn't have a model.



Also emp grenades are no more and have been replaced by the anti matter grenade, which sucks object into it as well as does emp damage before exploding.

Hey masters does the particle carbine and focus carbine use the old covenant carbine scope and reticle?
And has the particle carbine gotten it's custom model? Just curious, ps do you have the overshelid as an armor upgrade.
Not asking you to give away anything.

Awesome. Since the Brute spike grenade is inspired by the German stielhandgranate, a possible approach could be to use a spike grenade model (sans spikes) with a ring of fuel rods. The spike(less) grenade would simply serve as the fuse and the initial detonator which dispersed and triggered the fuel rods.


This sounds really cool, but it doesn't really seem like the workings of antimatter. While the name ultimately doesn't make a huge difference, some alternate designations to consider could be "gravity grenade" (hearkening back to the early "gravity rifle" and "gravity wrench" of pre-Xbox Halo) or "singularity grenade". Both of these names make the weapon sound like what it does (i.e. a grenade that really... sucks). "Antimatter grenade," on the other hand, implies that the weapon has the destructive capacity to level Hiroshima.
Edited by Echo77 on Aug 10, 2014 at 06:58 PM

Basically the "antimatter" grenade maybe causes flesh damage and destroys armor under it's emp field.
It sounds lethal and deadly and a grenade you don't want to get caught in. And I remember you saying the brute shot was supposed to shoot emp grenades, what happened to it?

Except that antimatter does not work like that and goes against pretty much any well based science.
I'm just saying.

Does anyone find it weird?
When I watch the trailer with the part that shows the gauss warthog, the turret looks pretty odd.
And those lookout towers should have the same colour as the t&r's grav lift.

Well the reason we call it an anti-matter grenade is because it looks like the anti-matter charge from Cairo Station, and there is existing prior art of it in one of the comics we wanted to tie in. The idea is it sucks matter in, and then uses that to explode stuff.

Hey any updates on that brute vidoc?

It's aesthetically similar to the antimatter charge seen on Cairo Station, but I don't think it's ever mentioned that it's an antimatter grenade. Half a gram of antimatter apparently has the destructive capacity of the atomic bomb "Little Boy," which is why I associate absolutely massive destructive capacity with the word "antimatter" more than I associate "sucks things in" with the word "antimatter". I guess the Covenant could imbue a hand grenade with a probably-microscopic amount of antimatter that would allow the operator to use it without annihilating an entire zip code, but the name just doesn't seem to mesh very well with the function it's been given.

You've got "fragmentation grenades," which explode into a shower of metal fragments, you've got "cluster grenades," which trigger multiple subsequent detonations, and you've got "plasma grenades," which erupt in a burst of plasma, but then there's the "antimatter grenade," which pulls things in and disrupts electronics, which are both traits I'd never have inferred from the name alone.
Edited by Echo77 on Aug 10, 2014 at 07:56 PM

Maybe we have to wait a month to blow over for an update.
Ps in a50 in the near end of the level why do the marines/odsts use brute plasma rifles?

These Marines are probably the ones you rescue from the brig of the Truth and Reconcilliation. Since you don't lock prisoners of war up with their weapons, they have to make do with whatever Covenant small arms were laying around outside their cells.

I agree with your point Echo77

I can understand that. And they were helpful when escaping. I wonder if the gravity lift fight is longer, for a challenge.

you wonder and ask a lot of things.

Internally we call it a gravity grenade, but it's cannon association is that its part of the antimatter family.
Edited by Masters1337 on Aug 10, 2014 at 08:22 PM

CMT canon or Halo canon? The Halopedia page mentions that it may be a miniaturized form of the antimatter charge, but doesn't have any definitive information regarding whether it actualy is, or if the resemblance is purely visual.
http://www.halopedia.org/Unidentified_Covenant_explosive

Edit: I hope it doesn't look like I'm doggedly nitpicking a seemingly trivial detail. The name fits the model you've chosen fairly well, but it doesn't really explain what the grenade does as well as all the other grenades do, which may lead to some confusion amongst those who haven't had the weapon explained to them beforehand. Of course, I have had the weapon explained to me beforehand, so the name is a non-issue for myself, but I'm sure there are some people out there who who don't read the forums.
Edited by Echo77 on Aug 10, 2014 at 09:28 PM

yeah well when people throw it and it starts sucking everything in I think they will get the idea of what it does.

Looks more it's a brute exclusive grenade, but it seems elites could also use it.
It depends ironically.

I am fairly certain you have no clue what "ironically" means.

Ironically, that's exactly what he was going for! Are you even trying to be cool like Spartan_234? Jesus, get a fudging pen.
Edit: So I looked up Chaika in Google Images. First thing I saw was a little girl covered in what I hope was mashed potatoes.
brb fbi at my door lul
Edited by General_101 on Aug 10, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Actually I believe your theory might be spot on, because if you watch the SPV3 Trailer Analysis, they bring it up.

Link:
http://youtu.be/olgQ6nnMwoM?t=33m56s

(EDIT)
qq, forgot to quote Echo77
Edited by RabbitFood on Aug 10, 2014 at 10:55 PM

I think it be ironic if we were all made out of iron.


And the 2 new grenade types are mainly used by brutes, but are not exclusively used by them. Grunt Ultras and Camo Elites both make use of the new types as well.

I like the way you think.

Unless when the gravity grenade detonates it applies 9.8 m/s^2 downward acceleration on all objects within its blast radius, it'd make more sense to call it something like singularity grenade (since it creates a singularity) or vortex grenade (since it acts similarly to the cut "vortex" equipment from Halo 3).

The cluster grenade is the only grenade that's good for clearing out enemies in tight corners and spaces.
And what happened to uncle spot? Did you guys remove him/it?

"Vortex grenade" would work, too. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the "vortex" equipment, though. What was it intended to do, exactly?


All of the grenades are good for clearing enemies out of tight spaces. They're grenades.
Edited by Echo77 on Aug 10, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Yeah but this one seems to do the job well enough. Also what would be your go to ranged weapon in SPV3?
Edited by Spartan_234 on Aug 10, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Because the word gravity only refers to earth gravity at sea level.


There already exist papers that show black holes can be sustained through mechanisms that use "negative mass." It's not quite the same as antimatter, but eh, it's kinda close. Anything along these lines is going to require an enormous amount of energy.


I say, name it whatever rolls off the tongue best...

Whatever you call it, a sustainable black hole would need to have incredibly high density, which in turn would make it a WMD if deployed in-atmosphere.

Not sure what the exact collapse mechanics are, but I thought that a micro-black hole that vanishes instantaneously was actually possible. This would sort-of legitimize the gravity grenade concept.

Edited by AntonMK14 on Aug 11, 2014 at 10:37 AM
Edited by AntonMK14 on Aug 11, 2014 at 10:38 AM

i had a dream of the trailer of CMT SPV3 but it was different, longer and with a different music

I didn't intend for a discussion on the practicality of either weaponized antimatter or singularities with my initial comment, because trying to take a realistic approach to Covenant technology would require overturning pretty much everything we've seen in use by the Covies up to this point. The question isn't "Is an antimatter grenade or a singularity grenade feasible?" but simply, "Does the designation of this weapon match up with its function?"
Edited by Echo77 on Aug 11, 2014 at 12:42 PM

cool

Tell us more arby.crap
Edited by Spartan_234 on Aug 11, 2014 at 12:56 PM

is something like a gameplay some parts that were shown in the video

What kind?