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UHWArby
Joined: Jul 2, 2013

PIPO vive


Posted: Mar 19, 2014 07:27 PM    Msg. 6266 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: greg079
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
whole bunch o' words
Edited by Masters1337 on Mar 19, 2014 at 05:19 PM

most of those points are right on the mark... however, i feel it would be nicer for everyone if instead of brushing of a critique because "we've tried that and it didn't look nice" or "we'll get to it", maybe actually say that it didn't look good, or you'll get to it. and about the new grunt, it will be cute, yes?


cute ? I hope of halo reach, halo 2 or 3 but never of HALO 4


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Mar 19, 2014 07:52 PM    Msg. 6267 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt
The fact that you guys actually read and then make ridiculously long replies to half of these posts amazes me

He can feel free to do it, but I'm not going to bother responding to him since anyone with half a brain knows he's a freaking retard.

Quote: --- Original message by: greg079
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
whole bunch o' words
Edited by Masters1337 on Mar 19, 2014 at 05:19 PM

most of those points are right on the mark... however, i feel it would be nicer for everyone if instead of brushing of a critique because "we've tried that and it didn't look nice" or "we'll get to it", maybe actually say that it didn't look good, or you'll get to it. and about the new grunt, it will be cute, yes?


It's not as cute and cuddly as h1 and h2 plush toy look, but not as gross as h3/reach. We aren't planning on drawing much from H4 for them as far as I know, but they currently are just modeled, not textured.
Edited by Masters1337 on Mar 19, 2014 at 07:56 PM


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Mar 19, 2014 09:27 PM    Msg. 6268 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: master noob
don't have to be a chef to tell the good food from the bad.

And yet everyone has different tastes. I don't like vegetables, that doesn't mean people who like vegetables are objectively wrong.


P3
Joined: Dec 2, 2011


Posted: Mar 19, 2014 09:34 PM    Msg. 6269 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337

Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt
The fact that you guys actually read and then make ridiculously long replies to half of these posts amazes me

He can feel free to do it, but I'm not going to bother responding to him since anyone with half a brain knows he's a freaking retard.

Quote: --- Original message by: greg079
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
whole bunch o' words
Edited by Masters1337 on Mar 19, 2014 at 05:19 PM

most of those points are right on the mark... however, i feel it would be nicer for everyone if instead of brushing of a critique because "we've tried that and it didn't look nice" or "we'll get to it", maybe actually say that it didn't look good, or you'll get to it. and about the new grunt, it will be cute, yes?


It's not as cute and cuddly as h1 and h2 plush toy look, but not as gross as h3/reach. We aren't planning on drawing much from H4 for them as far as I know, but they currently are just modeled, not textured.
Edited by Masters1337 on Mar 19, 2014 at 07:56 PM


Come on now, don't be like that. -_- He's just trying to get his opinion across as like you are. How about when you guys release these and when you guys are working on the rerelease of the released maps that you guys planned to recreate after the first wave of releases for community testing, you guys could show us a plasma rifle that is changed to like how Masternoob thought it should look because you guys are going to re-mess around with them anyway.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Mar 19, 2014 11:19 PM    Msg. 6270 of 10646       
Lucky for him, all our work is open source and he can easily go in and fix it up himself for his own use if he doesn't like the way it looks when we release.


RazorHog
Joined: Jun 26, 2013

@TheGrubbWorm Woo Pig Sooie Y'all


Posted: Mar 19, 2014 11:20 PM    Msg. 6271 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt
The fact that you guys actually read and then make ridiculously long replies to half of these posts amazes me


For real, I keep my replies limited to about two sentences at max.




Boobs.


Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008

Still here. Still loves bacon


Posted: Mar 19, 2014 11:23 PM    Msg. 6272 of 10646       
We've had this EXACT same debate over the plasma rifle (and cmt's acceptance of criticism) in the past. We all gotta learn that if you can't strike oil in one hole you need to relocate and drill again somewhere else.

I mean if we're gonna argue into another stalemate, we might as well do it over a new topic we haven't covered yet.

Also @Masterz,

You guys were considering a hammerburst spiker?! While I can think of a few reasons why that wouldn't have worked out, that's still a kick ass weapon idea.


R93_Sniper
Joined: Feb 13, 2011

When in Doubt, RUN!


Posted: Mar 19, 2014 11:44 PM    Msg. 6273 of 10646       
Hammerburst Spiker.....what? That supposed to be a spiker that has an explosive effect on melee or something?

also, WHAR DEM VIDOCS
Edited by R93_Sniper on Mar 19, 2014 at 11:44 PM


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Mar 19, 2014 11:45 PM    Msg. 6274 of 10646       
I had it functioning fine, it just didn't play well with Halo's combat. With the setup on the BR, we can pretty do any burst fire weapon with whatever speed of burst and projectile bursts we want.

The grizzly uses a burst fire system for it's cannon so that when you fire the cannon the second projectile detonates after the first, allowing there to be more chain reaction explosions.


RazorHog
Joined: Jun 26, 2013

@TheGrubbWorm Woo Pig Sooie Y'all


Posted: Mar 19, 2014 11:46 PM    Msg. 6275 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Delicon20
We all gotta learn that if you can't strike oil in one hole you need to relocate and drill again somewhere else.


I've used a similar statement to get my girlfriend to do different things in bed but the point is the same.


greg079
Joined: Apr 1, 2013

channeling my inner april fool


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 12:03 AM    Msg. 6276 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
he's a freaking retard.
Edited by Masters1337 on Mar 19, 2014 at 07:56 PM

aww that's nice. i know you don't agree with him, but he's trying to help in his own way.


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 12:03 AM    Msg. 6277 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
The grizzly uses a burst fire system for it's cannon so that when you fire the cannon the second projectile detonates after the first.

Does it have two main guns, or does it just have one gun with like, a 2-round magazine?


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 12:16 AM    Msg. 6278 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337

Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt
The fact that you guys actually read and then make ridiculously long replies to half of these posts amazes me

He can feel free to do it, but I'm not going to bother responding to him since anyone with half a brain knows he's a freaking retard.


Thats cute. You guys get along very nicely.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 12:27 AM    Msg. 6279 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
The grizzly uses a burst fire system for it's cannon so that when you fire the cannon the second projectile detonates after the first.

Does it have two main guns, or does it just have one gun with like, a 2-round magazine?

It's one weapon tag, with 2 triggers. One trigger is for the cannon which has 2 rounds loaded, and then spew discharge like the BR. The other trigger is the chaingun.


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 12:41 AM    Msg. 6280 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
The grizzly uses a burst fire system for it's cannon so that when you fire the cannon the second projectile detonates after the first.

Does it have two main guns, or does it just have one gun with like, a 2-round magazine?

It's one weapon tag, with 2 triggers. One trigger is for the cannon which has 2 rounds loaded, and then spew discharge like the BR. The other trigger is the chaingun.

Ah, that sounds good. I was never a big fan of the twin cannon layout the Halo Wars Grizzly used.


master noob
Joined: Aug 10, 2012

343Industries Advocate


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 12:44 AM    Msg. 6281 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
He can feel free to do it, but I'm not going to bother responding to him since anyone with half a brain knows he's a freaking retard.


honestly, if you're going to act like this then you should have put this in your first reply instead of writing a whole paragraph that you're never going to bother with anyway. at least it's nice to know I was right.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 12:47 AM    Msg. 6282 of 10646       
Well I expected an intelligent response, not a post confirming what many have suspected for quite some time.


master noob
Joined: Aug 10, 2012

343Industries Advocate


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 12:53 AM    Msg. 6283 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Well I expected an intelligent response, not a post confirming what many have suspected for quite some time.


if your posts don't live up to your expectations then maybe you should stop posting altogether.


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 12:56 AM    Msg. 6284 of 10646       


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 01:02 AM    Msg. 6285 of 10646       
No, it won't because I don't feel like wasting my time with someone who clearly can't comprehend my posts and doesn't offer any opinion or thoughts that are credible. If he is so intelligent and competent in his skills he should be able to prove us wrong through actions and not words.

It's clear to anyone who reads his response he didn't even understand anything I said, and if he can't understand what I say there is no point of trying to engage in dialogue with him.


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 01:03 AM    Msg. 6286 of 10646       


master noob
Joined: Aug 10, 2012

343Industries Advocate


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 01:17 AM    Msg. 6287 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
It's clear to anyone who reads his response he didn't even understand anything I said, and if he can't understand what I say there is no point of trying to engage in dialogue with him.


yet you did engage in dialogue and now you resort to insults and ignorance once again because you are incapable of replying: you simply cannot back your words up, just like last time and every time before that. you are too afraid to reply, too afraid of realizing the truth, too afraid to accept criticism, so you retreat into your little bubble and hope your petty mudslinging scares off the competition. these are not the actions of a forum-goer, nor the actions of anyone with any shred of competence; yours are the actions of a twelve-year-old.


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 01:36 AM    Msg. 6288 of 10646       


I love this community
Edited by MatthewDratt on Mar 20, 2014 at 01:38 AM


Storm
Joined: Dec 19, 2011

Send memes to www.loganpaul.com/cliffhanger


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 01:40 AM    Msg. 6289 of 10646       


Choclate Thunda
Joined: Aug 2, 2010

My BS meter agrees... -Hud Artist/Creator-


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 03:21 AM    Msg. 6290 of 10646       
I really hate how this has become a crap storm. No more arguing, its pointless with no result except one side getting a ego boost. It doesn't matter what cmt does because its a mod, A MOD! Not a full fledged game, we earn no revenue. And with that both sides are allowed opinions, but if it just generates non nonsensical arguments, there's no point, at all. CMT should be allowed to do things as we please since we have no real obligation but to create a custom campaign experience we would like since we use our own time to create content. It be the same as with every other mod, you wouldn't want a bunch of people taking your project and forcing to do it the way that they want over every Little thing. Criticism is important, but there is a limit. Just blatantly trying to force something inst helping, you just turn into a control freak and a jerk.

Now I'm done with that I think that things are moving along nicely and well post updates a soon as we can.

Any one else trying to start more arguments or wars over crap, will be ignored.


rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009

I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 06:59 AM    Msg. 6291 of 10646       
looks like noob finally picked a new person to attack everyday. WOOT! remember masterz, sweep the leg


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 09:25 AM    Msg. 6292 of 10646       
I think CMT & co are missing the point with noobs posts (and jesus christ Masterz, you really look like a child in yours), as he is simply trying to give criticism and probably should be taken as he makes valid points. If you (CMT) don't like his crit, simply say "thanks" and walk away, there isn't much else to debate about it. Yelling at him because he thinks differently isn't doing any good, no matter how blunt he may have made his posts, and all it does his harm your own reputation.


DarkStarXIII
Joined: Jan 22, 2013

The fate of destruction is also the joy of rebirth


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 11:06 AM    Msg. 6293 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
I think CMT & co are missing the point with noobs posts (and jesus christ Masterz, you really look like a child in yours), as he is simply trying to give criticism and probably should be taken as he makes valid points. If you (CMT) don't like his crit, simply say "thanks" and walk away, there isn't much else to debate about it. Yelling at him because he thinks differently isn't doing any good, no matter how blunt he may have made his posts, and all it does his harm your own reputation.


I have to agree with Higuy. I have been watching this thread for updates via email notifications, and Masters, your behaviour and reaction towards your fans and criticism/suggestion has degraded and grown nasty. Calling someone a retard in this situation and insulting them like that is uncalled for. Refrain from it if you wish to keep your fanbase, or, you know, you can ignore this too. I like the CMT SPV projects, and the multiplayer maps, but if this continues, that will be the extent of it, and that will become questionable as well, seeing as your inability to take suggestions and criticism will lead to you/your team creating something no one will like. You like to appear mature and above it all, masters, but Higuy nailed it when he said you looked like a child. Locking your mind to differing opinions and criticism and suggestions and blindly hurling insults. You should search up the definition of retarded, and look at how noob posted. There isn't even a close correlation, and it was extremely hurtful and unnecessary. You can easily ignore the posts you dislike, or pm them, or even better, have a well mannered discussion over it, and come to an agreement or compromise. It takes no more energy than it did to insult noob, or tell everyone that you don't care about their suggestions.


Hammad
Joined: Sep 18, 2013

Imagination is more important than knowledge


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 12:10 PM    Msg. 6294 of 10646       

hey ya stole mah line

i thought we were friends


solitude
Joined: Sep 2, 2013

chfan


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 12:26 PM    Msg. 6295 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Lucky for him, all our work is open source and he can easily go in and fix it up himself for his own use if he doesn't like the way it looks when we release.



Shut up man, you don't know what you're talking about. Master noob is way more talented than you idiot failure.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 01:03 PM    Msg. 6296 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
I think CMT & co are missing the point with noobs posts (and jesus christ Masterz, you really look like a child in yours), as he is simply trying to give criticism and probably should be taken as he makes valid points. If you (CMT) don't like his crit, simply say "thanks" and walk away, there isn't much else to debate about it. Yelling at him because he thinks differently isn't doing any good, no matter how blunt he may have made his posts, and all it does his harm your own reputation.

He is not offering criticism, he is offering his OPINION which is he does not like the art style. I am open to criticism, I reflect and accept what ZombieKing stated about A10 because he actually offers well thought out criticism, and doesn't make it into a chest thumping post like Master Noob. Despite this, I AGREE with Master Noob that I am not a fan of the art style for the PR, but there is nothing wrong with the art it's self. I also admit that we are going to be making changes to it, and when I explain why nothing is going to be done with it, he offers a nonsense argument without fully reading what I said.

Quote: --- Original message by: DarkStarXIII
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
I think CMT & co are missing the point with noobs posts (and jesus christ Masterz, you really look like a child in yours), as he is simply trying to give criticism and probably should be taken as he makes valid points. If you (CMT) don't like his crit, simply say "thanks" and walk away, there isn't much else to debate about it. Yelling at him because he thinks differently isn't doing any good, no matter how blunt he may have made his posts, and all it does his harm your own reputation.


I have to agree with Higuy. I have been watching this thread for updates via email notifications, and Masters, your behaviour and reaction towards your fans and criticism/suggestion has degraded and grown nasty. Calling someone a retard in this situation and insulting them like that is uncalled for. Refrain from it if you wish to keep your fanbase, or, you know, you can ignore this too. I like the CMT SPV projects, and the multiplayer maps, but if this continues, that will be the extent of it, and that will become questionable as well, seeing as your inability to take suggestions and criticism will lead to you/your team creating something no one will like. You like to appear mature and above it all, masters, but Higuy nailed it when he said you looked like a child. Locking your mind to differing opinions and criticism and suggestions and blindly hurling insults. You should search up the definition of retarded, and look at how noob posted. There isn't even a close correlation, and it was extremely hurtful and unnecessary. You can easily ignore the posts you dislike, or pm them, or even better, have a well mannered discussion over it, and come to an agreement or compromise. It takes no more energy than it did to insult noob, or tell everyone that you don't care about their suggestions.

Perhaps retard was to harsh and idiot would have been more appropriate, apologies to anyone I offended with that. We often listen to peoples thoughts, crit and opinions, the first threads we post after a release are asking for feedback, and we try to make a habit of doing public betas whenever we can. However, there is a difference between that and someone trying to rub our noses and the dirt saying "I TOLD YOU SO" and ignoring anything we say, even when what we say addresses his opinion. We are not obligated to listen to any of you like Master Noob seems to think we are, yet we do respect and observe what people have to say and act on it.


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 01:06 PM    Msg. 6297 of 10646       
You still don't get the point. If you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all. Like I said, wether its his opinion or criticism that you don't agree with, simply ignore it and say thanks for the input. Starting a flame war in your own thread over it isn't good at all, makes you look stupid (ironically), and all you end up doing is starting unneeded drama.
Edited by Higuy on Mar 20, 2014 at 01:07 PM


Caesar
Joined: Jul 1, 2013


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 01:07 PM    Msg. 6298 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
I think CMT & co are missing the point with noobs posts (and jesus christ Masterz, you really look like a child in yours), as he is simply trying to give criticism and probably should be taken as he makes valid points. If you (CMT) don't like his crit, simply say "thanks" and walk away, there isn't much else to debate about it. Yelling at him because he thinks differently isn't doing any good, no matter how blunt he may have made his posts, and all it does his harm your own reputation.

He is not offering criticism, he is offering his OPINION which is he does not like the art style. I am open to criticism, I reflect and accept what ZombieKing stated about A10 because he actually offers well thought out criticism, and doesn't make it into a chest thumping post like Master Noob. Despite this, I AGREE with Master Noob that I am not a fan of the art style for the PR, but there is nothing wrong with the art it's self. I also admit that we are going to be making changes to it, and when I explain why nothing is going to be done with it, he offers a nonsense argument without fully reading what I said.

Quote: --- Original message by: DarkStarXIII
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
I think CMT & co are missing the point with noobs posts (and jesus christ Masterz, you really look like a child in yours), as he is simply trying to give criticism and probably should be taken as he makes valid points. If you (CMT) don't like his crit, simply say "thanks" and walk away, there isn't much else to debate about it. Yelling at him because he thinks differently isn't doing any good, no matter how blunt he may have made his posts, and all it does his harm your own reputation.


I have to agree with Higuy. I have been watching this thread for updates via email notifications, and Masters, your behaviour and reaction towards your fans and criticism/suggestion has degraded and grown nasty. Calling someone a retard in this situation and insulting them like that is uncalled for. Refrain from it if you wish to keep your fanbase, or, you know, you can ignore this too. I like the CMT SPV projects, and the multiplayer maps, but if this continues, that will be the extent of it, and that will become questionable as well, seeing as your inability to take suggestions and criticism will lead to you/your team creating something no one will like. You like to appear mature and above it all, masters, but Higuy nailed it when he said you looked like a child. Locking your mind to differing opinions and criticism and suggestions and blindly hurling insults. You should search up the definition of retarded, and look at how noob posted. There isn't even a close correlation, and it was extremely hurtful and unnecessary. You can easily ignore the posts you dislike, or pm them, or even better, have a well mannered discussion over it, and come to an agreement or compromise. It takes no more energy than it did to insult noob, or tell everyone that you don't care about their suggestions.

Perhaps retard was to harsh and idiot would have been more appropriate, apologies to anyone I offended with that. We often listen to peoples thoughts, crit and opinions, the first threads we post after a release are asking for feedback, and we try to make a habit of doing public betas whenever we can. However, there is a difference between that and someone trying to rub our noses and the dirt saying "I TOLD YOU SO" and ignoring anything we say, even when what we say addresses his opinion. We are not obligated to listen to any of you like Master Noob seems to think we are, yet we do respect and observe what people have to say and act on it.



Sorry it's too late to apologise, perhaps you should turn off you're PC and go to sleep.

You're just a troll.


Xtralaos
Joined: Jun 1, 2013

"I AM THE GREATEST!"


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 01:28 PM    Msg. 6299 of 10646       
I couldn't agree more with Higuy this time, I had much respect for Masterz and I saw him as a mature person. Even if Master Noob did not give that criticism you wanted, he still gave you his opinion regarding certain aspects of the PR. There's no need in insulting someone just because of a different opinion.In fact, this could even help you out (I'm not saying any of you are right about the PR ! ) as you can experiment with different things and see the result.

What Noob did was simply telling you that many others have the same opinion that he had long ago and back then, nobody listened to him. I really don't think this is a legitimate reason to call him a retard. As Higuy already said, you could have just ignored him if you didn't like that.

Anyway, good luck with your project.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Mar 20, 2014 01:37 PM    Msg. 6300 of 10646       
I have 0 problem with him having an opinion about our work or not delivering proper criticism, I am happy to ignore it. Every person has a right to have their own visual preferences or artistic taste.

I think he's an idiot for responding to my initial post with non sense and not having anything intelligent to say back to me when I explained why we do the things we do.

Regardless, I am done posting about it in this thread especially now he has his friends poorly responding with personal attacks. If you want to continue this Xtralaos, my PM box is open to you.

 
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