
Bobblehob
Joined: Aug 29, 2010
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 01:20 PM
Msg. 2381 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Delicon20
so by that logic game industries should stop making pc games have better and better graphics so that the poor don't have to buy new computers
while what you say may be the RIGHT thing to do, jaz has a point in saying you have to either choose graphics or optimization, in which graphics will almost always be the victor. Just ask Bethesda Actually no, professional game companies don't choose between graphics and optimization because they realize that not everyone has a ridiculously expensive computer. They optimize their games for those of us with less ridiculous computers. CMT can and has optimized their mod for people with computers that aren't up to par. Edited by Bobblehob on Feb 26, 2012 at 01:21 PM
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Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008
Still here. Still loves bacon
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 01:28 PM
Msg. 2382 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: BobblehobQuote: --- Original message by: Delicon20
so by that logic game industries should stop making pc games have better and better graphics so that the poor don't have to buy new computers
while what you say may be the RIGHT thing to do, jaz has a point in saying you have to either choose graphics or optimization, in which graphics will almost always be the victor. Just ask Bethesda Actually no, professional game companies don't choose between graphics and optimization because they realize that not everyone has a ridiculously expensive computer. They optimize their games for those of us with less ridiculous computers. CMT can and has optimized their mod for people with computers that aren't up to par. Edited by Bobblehob on Feb 26, 2012 at 01:21 PM well you're partly right, because even the best looking game's have graphical optimization options, BUT most games are still gradually improving graphically to the point that unless you have a badass computer you'll have to upgrade every 5 years, even if you lower the graphical standards completely either way it all comes down to whether you can afford to upgrade or not. I honestly would recommend upgrading your pc or buying a new one if you can't run a50 with OS and max graphics, because if you keep choosing low settings every time you play a new game, you're probably going to drive yourself insane.
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TauSigmaNova
Joined: Jan 31, 2011
If love is blind, I guess I'll buy myself a cane
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 03:08 PM
Msg. 2383 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Delicon20Quote: --- Original message by: BobblehobQuote: --- Original message by: Delicon20
so by that logic game industries should stop making pc games have better and better graphics so that the poor don't have to buy new computers
while what you say may be the RIGHT thing to do, jaz has a point in saying you have to either choose graphics or optimization, in which graphics will almost always be the victor. Just ask Bethesda Actually no, professional game companies don't choose between graphics and optimization because they realize that not everyone has a ridiculously expensive computer. They optimize their games for those of us with less ridiculous computers. CMT can and has optimized their mod for people with computers that aren't up to par. Edited by Bobblehob on Feb 26, 2012 at 01:21 PM well you're partly right, because even the best looking game's have graphical optimization options, BUT most games are still gradually improving graphically to the point that unless you have a badass computer you'll have to upgrade every 5 years, even if you lower the graphical standards completely either way it all comes down to whether you can afford to upgrade or not. I honestly would recommend upgrading your pc or buying a new one if you can't run a50 with OS and max graphics, because if you keep choosing low settings every time you play a new game, you're probably going to drive yourself insane. Yeah, like I did. WIth my new machine, I run anythign on High or Ultra. Crysis 2, Skyrim, BF3, Mass Effect 2 ( <333333 ) ANYTHING and it only cost me 949+tax
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Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008
Still here. Still loves bacon
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 03:13 PM
Msg. 2384 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: TauSigmaNovaQuote: --- Original message by: Delicon20Quote: --- Original message by: BobblehobQuote: --- Original message by: Delicon20
so by that logic game industries should stop making pc games have better and better graphics so that the poor don't have to buy new computers
while what you say may be the RIGHT thing to do, jaz has a point in saying you have to either choose graphics or optimization, in which graphics will almost always be the victor. Just ask Bethesda Actually no, professional game companies don't choose between graphics and optimization because they realize that not everyone has a ridiculously expensive computer. They optimize their games for those of us with less ridiculous computers. CMT can and has optimized their mod for people with computers that aren't up to par. Edited by Bobblehob on Feb 26, 2012 at 01:21 PM well you're partly right, because even the best looking game's have graphical optimization options, BUT most games are still gradually improving graphically to the point that unless you have a badass computer you'll have to upgrade every 5 years, even if you lower the graphical standards completely either way it all comes down to whether you can afford to upgrade or not. I honestly would recommend upgrading your pc or buying a new one if you can't run a50 with OS and max graphics, because if you keep choosing low settings every time you play a new game, you're probably going to drive yourself insane. Yeah, like I did. WIth my new machine, I run anythign on High or Ultra. Crysis 2, Skyrim, BF3, Mass Effect 2 ( <333333 ) ANYTHING and it only cost me 949+tax uhhh putting only doesn't make it look any cheaper 0.0
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Maniac1000
-Helpful Poster-
Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 03:15 PM
Msg. 2385 of 10646
Us dollars? CDN?\Pound?
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
[Insert sarcastic comment here]
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 03:26 PM
Msg. 2386 of 10646
If in US dollars, you're being ripped off.
If in Pounds, You need to get your brain checked. Nobody should even be able to rip anyone off that badly.
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TauSigmaNova
Joined: Jan 31, 2011
If love is blind, I guess I'll buy myself a cane
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 03:56 PM
Msg. 2387 of 10646
I live in NYC. Dollars.
But this machine is epic, so w/e Id build one myself but thats not a task im ready to take on.
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Maniac1000
-Helpful Poster-
Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 04:00 PM
Msg. 2388 of 10646
Jaz, he didnt even tell us anything about it, you cant make that assumption.
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XlzQwerty1
Joined: Aug 6, 2009
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 04:32 PM
Msg. 2389 of 10646
Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Hard Drive: 1.5 TB HDD
Video Card: AMD RADEON HD 6670 w/ AGEIA PhysX
Yeah I think you're being ripped off. Seriously, 6670 and an i7 930... Edited by XlzQwerty1 on Feb 26, 2012 at 04:32 PM
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 04:37 PM
Msg. 2390 of 10646
Build your own computer. Saves so much money...
But honestly, he probably would have saved not that much. The i7 costs close to 400 dollars, 8gb of ram can cost up to another 150 (if ur getting the good stuff), and that graphics card is also close to another 150. Thats 700 right there, and thats not including a case, mobo, hard drive, and psu.
The i7 is an extremely good cpu though, and and a 6670 is an alright card. Nothing amazing, but it'll play most modern games pretty well if you have the backup, like he does.
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Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008
Still here. Still loves bacon
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 04:39 PM
Msg. 2391 of 10646
alright computers are expensive, gamingf and mopdding are rich men's games
the end
...unless u get a console :p Edited by Delicon20 on Feb 26, 2012 at 04:39 PM
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XlzQwerty1
Joined: Aug 6, 2009
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 04:42 PM
Msg. 2392 of 10646
I'm saying that an i7 2600k is much better. And the i7 930 is only 300 (abour 290 by now). 8gb ram varies upon the brand. Graphics card is a rebrand of 5670 with less power actually (I have a 5670) and the card costs around 80-100 depending on brand. Thats about 400-450 excluding ram, case, psu, mobo, harddrive. The ram can be really cheap too (2x4gb sticks for around 50 dollars). Edited by XlzQwerty1 on Feb 26, 2012 at 04:42 PM
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Contrary Smuglord
Joined: May 25, 2011
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 05:06 PM
Msg. 2393 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: XlzQwerty1 Video Card: AMD RADEON HD 6670 w/ AGEIA PhysX Edited by XlzQwerty1 on Feb 26, 2012 at 04:32 PM Hahahahahaha!
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Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007
@lucasgovatos
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 05:11 PM
Msg. 2394 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: XlzQwerty1
I'm saying that an i7 2600k is much better. And the i7 930 is only 300 (abour 290 by now). 8gb ram varies upon the brand. Graphics card is a rebrand of 5670 with less power actually (I have a 5670) and the card costs around 80-100 depending on brand. Thats about 400-450 excluding ram, case, psu, mobo, harddrive. The ram can be really cheap too (2x4gb sticks for around 50 dollars). To be honest I don't know much about the new intel processors, the only ones I've looked at is the quadcore i5's which were around 200 dollars. The 5 series is superior only in the power department, otherwise the 6 series is gaining more features. When I got my 5850, it was around 200 dollars, only becuase they were brand new. But yes, they still are superior to the 6 series. And if your buying a 2x4gb stick for 50 dollars that is normally a sign for cheap power and probably wont last you very long. A mid ranged case, newer mobo, and a 1.5 tb harddrive, will probably total around 350 dollars.
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TauSigmaNova
Joined: Jan 31, 2011
If love is blind, I guess I'll buy myself a cane
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 05:11 PM
Msg. 2395 of 10646
I have BF3 maxed at 45 ~FPS (27-60) But no thanks, I'd rather fap to other stuff
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
[Insert sarcastic comment here]
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 05:49 PM
Msg. 2396 of 10646
@Tiel
He might have just gotten a lot of optimization.
He also could have updated the BIOS, overclocked the CPU, etc.
Otherwise... Somebody needs to make an actually WORKING fps counter some day...
E: Actually, 8gb ram could run BF3 no problem. 8gb ram is the RECOMMENDED requirement to run the UDK, and yet half that can still run it. UDK's got better graphics than BF3 and worse optimization, thus it would be easy for 8gb ram to run BF3.
(And yes, UDK has actually got better graphics. It's just so insanely awesome that it would be too expensive for anybody to even try to develop games with graphics like that unless it's a TEST) Edited by Jaz on Feb 26, 2012 at 05:51 PM Edited by Jaz on Feb 26, 2012 at 05:52 PM
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anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 07:18 PM
Msg. 2397 of 10646
Run's like crap on my Alienware M11x, but it is running like crap lately, needs formatting. Other than that it looks incredible, and ignoring the FPS played well.
WHATS WITH THAT HIDDEN AR! LMAO! The yellow stripe? lol.
And did you just use my shotgun for baking? Or did you use my lowpoly as well as high? Because that looks really amazing and my bakes failed lol
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TauSigmaNova
Joined: Jan 31, 2011
If love is blind, I guess I'll buy myself a cane
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 07:20 PM
Msg. 2398 of 10646
I play on native 1440x900. Like I said, it fluctuates 25-60, depending on amount of combat, map, etc, etc, etc. I was playing today a few hours ago and I saw frame rates of ~30, ~37, and ~42, depending on maps, with an occasional stutter.
Did they even bother to use the 6670 in their tests?
Also, I turned off Motion Blu. Why? Because I fricking hate motion blur. It's stupid. And ugly. On Crysis 2 I turned it off, (still ran 35fps with ALOT of stutters on highest settings) On OS/SPV3 I turned it off.
I just am not a fan of Motion blur
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TauSigmaNova
Joined: Jan 31, 2011
If love is blind, I guess I'll buy myself a cane
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 07:50 PM
Msg. 2399 of 10646
Considering thr performance I'm stilll getting out of it, I'm fine. Also, it's 999 but I got it on sale. Had i got it 6 months ago, It came standard with a 6770. >.> 6770 is now extra. Still, it runs great so idgaf
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KingFisher
Joined: Jun 10, 2011
Creativity is the main element of level design.
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 08:13 PM
Msg. 2400 of 10646
I laugh at the people that think the american dollar is actually worth as much as it was ten years ago or even five. Canada can get computer parts for cheaper than the U.S.
But still, paying that much for a ATI based machine is ridiculous. Nvidia is working the best for me right now and I didn't have to spend more than $700 on really good parts.
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TauSigmaNova
Joined: Jan 31, 2011
If love is blind, I guess I'll buy myself a cane
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 08:18 PM
Msg. 2401 of 10646
Eh, I roll ati/AMD when it comes to video cards. BTW, if you play BF3 PC add me http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/032OffensiveBias/stats/352349428/
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TauSigmaNova
Joined: Jan 31, 2011
If love is blind, I guess I'll buy myself a cane
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 08:22 PM
Msg. 2402 of 10646
Dell Direct. Also, please, if I was building, for a thousand dollars, I'd load that bi-atch to the top.
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 08:45 PM
Msg. 2403 of 10646
While we are on the subject: I built my current machine from spare parts. GFx is ATI Radeon 9600. It was free. Actually my entire machine was free. (One mans trash is anothers treasure) And it WILL run Portal 2 if I set it correctly. Probably I could get BF3 running all right if I cared to. I don't even own it. Only game I play on computer anymore is HCE and Minecraft. The rest I play on teh 360.
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XlzQwerty1
Joined: Aug 6, 2009
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 09:14 PM
Msg. 2404 of 10646
Lol i have an ati 9600 on my 2004 pc, 128mb vram.
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 09:32 PM
Msg. 2405 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: XlzQwerty1 Lol i have an ati 9600 on my 2004 pc, 128mb vram. I have something like 512(?). I also have (finally) more then 3 GHz clock speed. I found ym old one can clock to 4.2. That is, assuming I were to drench inside a Liquid Nitrogen bath. (It melted down) But it was fun to watch it burn.
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Bobblehob
Joined: Aug 29, 2010
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 09:47 PM
Msg. 2406 of 10646
Can we talk about SPV3 please?
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Bobblehob
Joined: Aug 29, 2010
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 11:40 PM
Msg. 2407 of 10646
Buahahahahahahahahahahahahah! Man, you guys really need to grow up...
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il Duce Primo
Joined: Apr 22, 2007
CMT Team Leader
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 11:41 PM
Msg. 2408 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: BobblehobBuahahahahahahahahahahahahah! Man, you guys really need to grow up... Would you change your mind if I said you're welcome to join? 
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 11:43 PM
Msg. 2409 of 10646
I want to join.
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Bobblehob
Joined: Aug 29, 2010
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 11:47 PM
Msg. 2410 of 10646
Nope, I would still say you need to grow up...
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il Duce Primo
Joined: Apr 22, 2007
CMT Team Leader
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 11:49 PM
Msg. 2411 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 I want to join. I'm sorry that you're such an essential part of our union that you are way too good for it. Sorry once again. :P
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Bobblehob
Joined: Aug 29, 2010
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 11:50 PM
Msg. 2412 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: il Duce PrimoQuote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 I want to join. I'm sorry that you're such an essential part of our union that you are way too good for it. Sorry once again. :P Its a bunch of idiotic kids, who are angry at another kid, and feel the need to act childish about it, not my problem xP
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TauSigmaNova
Joined: Jan 31, 2011
If love is blind, I guess I'll buy myself a cane
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Posted: Feb 26, 2012 11:59 PM
Msg. 2413 of 10646
Derp, and I'm only in it because most of the CE community is in it and it's nice because I can just get around to anyone and everyone.
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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
[Insert sarcastic comment here]
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Posted: Feb 27, 2012 01:17 AM
Msg. 2414 of 10646
Lol, that could run BF3 High settings no problem. My 9800GT can with 512mb memory. That thing has double that in a NEWER format. It's quite a lot faster.
E: Actually, what am I talking about? I'm thinking of BF2. I don't even have BF3 yet so don't know if my 9800GT can run it. Nevermind. Edited by Jaz on Feb 27, 2012 at 01:19 AM
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EliteSlasher2233
Joined: Jun 17, 2011
Oh yea, I am always RIGHT! Even when I'm not.
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Posted: Feb 27, 2012 02:10 AM
Msg. 2415 of 10646
I have CoreI7,8 GB of Ram and ATI Radeon HD 6770 and of course Windows 7.I didnt have that shiny look at the beginning.But then i reinstalled OS,run in in XP Service Pack 3 compability list and disabled visual themes.You might also need to run it as Administrator.
Thats how i fixed it.Now i see how far tech moves on.SOOOO SHINY
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