Quote: --- Original message by: t3h m00kz

foggy and windy, can't really make out any details. keep at it
Edited by t3h m00kz on Oct 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Quote: --- Original message by: Jesse
http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/125955858-4.jpg
http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/125956064-4.jpg
Worked on some lighting.

Quote: --- Original message by: Lestat
"It can be a beta to keep us occupied until you release the next version with your BSP."

Although testing is something we may consider, it's certainly not needed on the old BSP. There are so many inaccuracies we've been correcting that the new BSP looks entirely different. We will need the testing to ensure the new BSP, scenery, tags, etc all work together correctly. Some scenery items also need severe fixing. Patience.

The model was modeled by somebody and then Jesse has been making geometry, ID, and UV changes to the model. I have been combing through all the ripped Halo 3 bitmaps we've been starting to use. The Halo 3 bitmaps pose the following problems:
-Most of them are not power of two size. [2,4,8,16,32,64,128,512,1024,2048,etc] This doesn't really matter, though. Just compensate with the UVs.
-Some bitmaps are still not obtainable. We can get cube maps though! Can't wait to do the shaders.
-A good majority of the specular maps provided would not work in Halo CE without personal modifications. Srsly.
-The organization and naming schemes of the freshly ripped bitmaps used will give you a headache. I like the Halo 1 way.
-Most of the bitmaps are much larger than they need to be. Scale down until you notice it losing the level of detail it needs and stop just before that point. This works most of the time, you just need to know how.

But I've got those bitmaps all fixed up and ready for import through tool. I will then work on shaders, the first iteration of lighting, a quick sky, and a few portals. Once the level looks somewhat realistic and error free, there shall be glorious ingame pix. After that there should be updates to the scenery items (if you want to try Forge, it's going to be on this map) and the tagset has had many updates you should reacquaint yourself with. I really don't think it's good to show off this BSP until we get it working right, but you can still look at the renders. Up until last night, the BSP was still separated by material because we had to rip it from the H3MT map to get it. The material editor is still a mess. I'll see how fast I can get this model into good ingame condition.

I'd like to mention that this is a Halo 3 map in Halo CE. I remember a lot of people saying this was impossible.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eeqKLZdi0ws/TrIWt6wYSRI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/W3EPI3Q4RP4/s1600/531717.jpg

Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
Your shaders suck.

Quote: --- Original message by: DSalimander
[22:04] DSalimander:
"Your shaders suck." -Higuy
No. You suck. I'll have to try extra hard to make sure you don't get your hands on a build; wouldn't want a repeat of what happened to Ivory Tower.

"And your trolling isn't helping higuy, so stfu." -Choclate Thunda


"It's been done, hence the reason you had to rip it from a H3MT map..." -OHuntero
If you really want to define what H3MT did as a valid attempt at making a good, accurate port of a Halo 3 map, then you must have very low standards. I think you will be most pleased by our final results. What we're trying to produce will only differ from Halo 3 by the exact coordinates of each vertex, the engine limitations of HCE, and the lighting. If we had access to Halo 3 scenery and BSP models, we would be done by now.

@You
I hope you guys have a general idea of what you may want to "Forge" in the end result. Layout AND objects. Any ideas for things to add as Forge-able objects, mention them. This would be the time to be heard and have your items be available universally. THESE ITEMS WILL BE SCENERY. Things like the soccer ball, even though that would be hard to do in HCE. Provide (a) good idea(s) with models and bitmaps and I'll probably say yes instantly. Ideas will be considered and weighed against other ideas to find the best. We are not looking for easter eggs.
[22:04] DSalimander: post that for me in the semi offical thread
[22:05] DSalimander: that should draw some interest
[22:05] DSalimander: have people suggest items to forge
[22:07] DSalimander: umm
[22:07] DSalimander: i was working on reducing extra polies
[22:07] DSalimander: there are a lot of areas that are just way too overtesselated
[22:07] DSalimander: the poly count might drop by a couple hundred when im done

Quote: --- Original message by: Jesse
What we're trying to produce will only differ from Halo 3 by the exact coordinates of each vertex, the engine limitations of HCE, and the lighting. If we had access to Halo 3 scenery and BSP models, we would be done by now.

Quote: --- Original message by: Jesse
Is anyone here good and willing to make collision models? Definitely not my area of expertise since I can't seem to understand some sealed world elements.

Quote: --- Original message by: Lestat
"Don't forget who Sali is, Jesse." -Lodex
DSalimander is that guy who likes to give large mapping teams ample competition; he tries to stir up teams he dislikes. He is always open to suggestions/arguments, but usually starts discussions about drama-oriented subjects for amusement. DSalimander is that guy who tries to always release great stuff; usually succeeding. DSalimander is that guy who has worked with Jesse ever since Ivory Tower needed a Halo 2 tagset. But then Higuy leaked the map. DSalimander has always had access to the latest tagset Jesse had to offer, and Jesse has enjoyed boundless assistance and access to whatever tags he may want that are in my posession (I have lots). DSalimander has been banned like 20 times, it's inevitable really. I hope Dennis isn't reading this. Hi Dennis. <3