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Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Aug 6, 2012 03:44 PM    Msg. 3536 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: kirby_422
Oh yes, because CMT should just rip H1, and then they'll have the highest quality models EVARRR. All that custom stuff is useless, and H1 rips for ALLLLLL... srs? What in the world makes you think rips are high quality by default? You can ALWAYS make something better, it just depends on whether you're willing to spend the time and effort. If people employed your ideals, then we would stay with our current cars, "because they are in production, they must be the best." And then we would never get more advanced, better cars.


Ripping would mean we get the more advanced, better cars with minimal effort. The new cars are H3 and beyond, our current cars are H1. Not to say that everyone should rip everything all the time, but they shouldn't be shot down every time someone mentions them, either.


kirby_422
Joined: Jan 22, 2006

Apparently public enemy number 1?


Posted: Aug 6, 2012 04:07 PM    Msg. 3537 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
Ripping would mean we get the more advanced, better cars with minimal effort.

No, that would mean nothing new would ever come, and we would NEVER get more advanced cars, it would just destroy car brands because everyone is identical since they are clones of each other. Your world wont move forward until you do.


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Aug 6, 2012 04:15 PM    Msg. 3538 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: kirby_422
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
Ripping would mean we get the more advanced, better cars with minimal effort.

No, that would mean nothing new would ever come, and we would NEVER get more advanced cars, it would just destroy car brands because everyone is identical since they are clones of each other. Your world wont move forward until you do.


But someone would be moving forward, and it would do so at a faster rate, because any time an advancement was made, it could be ripped and shared by everyone. And then someone else will make something better, or improve on that, and then that'll get ripped, and the process would repeat.


kirby_422
Joined: Jan 22, 2006

Apparently public enemy number 1?


Posted: Aug 6, 2012 04:34 PM    Msg. 3539 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
But someone would be moving forward, and it would do so at a faster rate, because any time an advancement was made, it could be ripped and shared by everyone. And then someone else will make something better, or improve on that, and then that'll get ripped, and the process would repeat.

No, someone would be moving backwards. Rather than working their real skills, they are working their thieving skills. And when you just take from other people, you don't work on your own stuff, you instead take from other people. Nobody would pour 5 billion dollars into researching something that someone will just steal the day the research is done, they will instead wait for someone else to complete that research to steal, in-turn making it so nobody does the research, and nobody moves forward, with all actual usable skills like inventing being tossed out the door, making them in fact move backwards.

"If you want something, do about it with your own strength. The last laugh goes to the earnest diligent one." --Hayate the Combat Butler, Episode 1


OHunterO
Joined: May 24, 2012

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Posted: Aug 6, 2012 04:50 PM    Msg. 3540 of 4332       
Ripping - Learn F all useful.


Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010

"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"


Posted: Aug 6, 2012 05:41 PM    Msg. 3541 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: kirby_422
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
But someone would be moving forward, and it would do so at a faster rate, because any time an advancement was made, it could be ripped and shared by everyone. And then someone else will make something better, or improve on that, and then that'll get ripped, and the process would repeat.

No, someone would be moving backwards. Rather than working their real skills, they are working their thieving skills. And when you just take from other people, you don't work on your own stuff, you instead take from other people. Nobody would pour 5 billion dollars into researching something that someone will just steal the day the research is done, they will instead wait for someone else to complete that research to steal, in-turn making it so nobody does the research, and nobody moves forward, with all actual usable skills like inventing being tossed out the door, making them in fact move backwards.

"If you want something, do about it with your own strength. The last laugh goes to the earnest diligent one." --Hayate the Combat Butler, Episode 1


Glad to see I am NOT the only one who watches that show.


renegade343
Joined: Jun 26, 2012

CE3 Stage Modeler, Editor, and Writer


Posted: Aug 6, 2012 06:29 PM    Msg. 3542 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: kirby_422
No, someone would be moving backwards. Rather than working their real skills, they are working their thieving skills. And when you just take from other people, you don't work on your own stuff, you instead take from other people. Nobody would pour 5 billion dollars into researching something that someone will just steal the day the research is done, they will instead wait for someone else to complete that research to steal, in-turn making it so nobody does the research, and nobody moves forward, with all actual usable skills like inventing being tossed out the door, making them in fact move backwards.


True, if ripping is all you're doing. If that's it, then I agree with you wholeheartedly, and it's just mooching off of Bungie (or whoever else)'s commercial work.

If you're ripping and ADAPTING to the work, then that's different; you're taking advantage of an existing resource, and saving time while applying your own skills, ideas and effort into a new work.
EDIT: This depends on exactly what you do, but.. more or less, that's what I think. Depends on the specific work in question.

I think you two are just in violent agreement; Echo77 meant adapting, not necessarily JUST ripping.

Am I wrong?
Edited by renegade343 on Aug 6, 2012 at 06:31 PM


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Aug 6, 2012 09:47 PM    Msg. 3543 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: renegade343

Quote: --- Original message by: kirby_422
No, someone would be moving backwards. Rather than working their real skills, they are working their thieving skills. And when you just take from other people, you don't work on your own stuff, you instead take from other people. Nobody would pour 5 billion dollars into researching something that someone will just steal the day the research is done, they will instead wait for someone else to complete that research to steal, in-turn making it so nobody does the research, and nobody moves forward, with all actual usable skills like inventing being tossed out the door, making them in fact move backwards.


True, if ripping is all you're doing. If that's it, then I agree with you wholeheartedly, and it's just mooching off of Bungie (or whoever else)'s commercial work.

If you're ripping and ADAPTING to the work, then that's different; you're taking advantage of an existing resource, and saving time while applying your own skills, ideas and effort into a new work.
EDIT: This depends on exactly what you do, but.. more or less, that's what I think. Depends on the specific work in question.

I think you two are just in violent agreement; Echo77 meant adapting, not necessarily JUST ripping.

Am I wrong?
Edited by renegade343 on Aug 6, 2012 at 06:31 PM


Right, that's why I said "Not to say that everyone should rip everything all the time, but they shouldn't be shot down every time someone mentions them, either."

Some thing are done from the ground up, and they're decent, but some people can rip it, tweak it, and take it from decent to good. And some people just don't want to create assets from the ground up because it's too time consuming. There are some people who will rip and tweak, but if they couldn't do that, they simply wouldn't contribute anything at all in terms of maps and tags. And I'd rather have modified rips than nothing at all.
Edited by Echo77 on Aug 7, 2012 at 11:28 AM


OHunterO
Joined: May 24, 2012

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Posted: Aug 7, 2012 12:10 AM    Msg. 3544 of 4332       
All I see on this forum are just rips, hence why i shoot them down everytime. Not many people actually TRY and make custom content.

Ripping is also stupid as you can only take what is created, so if you want something new your then screwed.


Cheddars
Joined: Oct 30, 2010

Rave to the Grave.


Posted: Aug 14, 2012 02:42 AM    Msg. 3545 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: Private Caboose
Quote: --- Original message by: OHunterO
All I see on this forum are just rips, hence why i shoot them down everytime. Not many people actually TRY and make custom content.

Ripping is also stupid as you can only take what is created, so if you want something new your then screwed.


Agreed. If you rip, you might as well be saying that you don't want to learn anything.


No, you can look at how the models were created, the wireframe and unwrap but thats about it for anything learning wise.


The_Arbiter
Joined: Aug 23, 2011

I feel like having scotch


Posted: Aug 14, 2012 03:24 AM    Msg. 3546 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: Private Caboose
Quote: --- Original message by: OHunterO
All I see on this forum are just rips, hence why i shoot them down everytime. Not many people actually TRY and make custom content.

Ripping is also stupid as you can only take what is created, so if you want something new your then screwed.


Agreed. If you rip, you might as well be saying that you don't want to learn anything.


I rip because i like what i make not because i dislike custom stuff, actually i am working on custom bsps
Edited by The_Arbiter on Aug 14, 2012 at 03:36 AM


OHunterO
Joined: May 24, 2012

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Posted: Aug 16, 2012 11:57 AM    Msg. 3547 of 4332       
Gotta make this when Halo 4 is out!




(Still uploading)



Edited by OHunterO on Aug 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM


renegade343
Joined: Jun 26, 2012

CE3 Stage Modeler, Editor, and Writer


Posted: Aug 16, 2012 02:06 PM    Msg. 3548 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: OHunterO
All I see on this forum are just rips, hence why i shoot them down everytime. Not many people actually TRY and make custom content.

..Well I haven't exactly been on these forums for a long time, so (at least for me personally) that theory and a month's worth of observation's all I know about all of y'all... I wasn't really aware of that, sorry.
But that is unfortunate -though half-a..ed effort with premade content still sounds better than absolutely no content being made at all, if you ask me.


Cheddars
Joined: Oct 30, 2010

Rave to the Grave.


Posted: Aug 17, 2012 09:09 AM    Msg. 3549 of 4332       
but absolute no content is a result of rips being injected into the community.


Dalek
Joined: Aug 12, 2011


Posted: Aug 17, 2012 09:32 AM    Msg. 3550 of 4332       
model it for fun :



Vergil
Joined: Jun 13, 2011

you're just mad cuz you're angry


Posted: Aug 17, 2012 12:01 PM    Msg. 3551 of 4332       
izza nighthawk


eliteslasher
Joined: Jun 30, 2008

Crysis 3!!!!!!! All I have to say. :D


Posted: Aug 17, 2012 12:43 PM    Msg. 3552 of 4332       
F302!


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Aug 17, 2012 09:44 PM    Msg. 3553 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: OHunterO

Gotta make this when Halo 4 is out!

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63494571/elphant_2.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63494571/elphant_3.jpg

(Still uploading)



Edited by OHunterO on Aug 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM

I've never grown to aesthetically like the Elephant until recently with Halo 4. That's just a cool design idea all together.


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Aug 17, 2012 09:51 PM    Msg. 3554 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: DarkHalo003
Quote: --- Original message by: OHunterO

Gotta make this when Halo 4 is out!

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63494571/elphant_2.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63494571/elphant_3.jpg

(Still uploading)



Edited by OHunterO on Aug 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM

I've never grown to aesthetically like the Elephant until recently with Halo 4. That's just a cool design idea all together.


I'm still not entirely convinced it's an Elephant. It bears several similarities, but it's much larger, and has wheels instead of treads, and...

*is befuddled*


OHunterO
Joined: May 24, 2012

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Posted: Aug 18, 2012 12:10 AM    Msg. 3555 of 4332       
I highly doubt its called an Elephant, I just called it that as there is no other name for it at the moment. in terms of functionality and design it does look similar though aws it is just a HUGE moving base.. looks awesome in H4, sory about spelling and grammar, been town for drink!! :D


TM_updates
Joined: Aug 31, 2011

Superior to you, Superior Musclez near Brussels


Posted: Aug 18, 2012 07:16 AM    Msg. 3556 of 4332       
I once made a small game when I had a drink too many.
The goal of the game was to catch a goat in a field.

Ah yes, Catch the Goat was quite a game.


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: Aug 18, 2012 11:34 AM    Msg. 3557 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: vampire_girl
It's called "Mammoth", by the way.
And don't drink too much before modeling... it end up a little... yeah.

The irony is that was the name I first thought of when I saw it. Can't tell if great minds think alike or if it's incredibly predictable names for army vehicles.


Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011

Dead.


Posted: Aug 18, 2012 12:56 PM    Msg. 3558 of 4332       
The Dino.


OHunterO
Joined: May 24, 2012

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Posted: Aug 18, 2012 01:41 PM    Msg. 3559 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: vampire_girl
It's called "Mammoth", by the way.
And don't drink too much before modeling... it end up a little... yeah.


Ah tah, forgot the name lol. And weirdly enough, drink makes me model faster and get bored quickly sometimes aha.

Quote: --- Original message by: TM_updates
I once made a small game when I had a drink too many.
The goal of the game was to catch a goat in a field.

Ah yes, Catch the Goat was quite a game.


Sounds amazing LMAOOOO!


killzone64
Joined: Jun 9, 2010

sometimes i miss the chaos occasionally


Posted: Aug 19, 2012 02:55 AM    Msg. 3560 of 4332       
I've been working on some warthog shaders




Whaddya think


The_Arbiter
Joined: Aug 23, 2011

I feel like having scotch


Posted: Aug 19, 2012 03:48 AM    Msg. 3561 of 4332       


terrible

Edited by The_Arbiter on Aug 19, 2012 at 03:48 AM


master noob
Joined: Aug 10, 2012

343Industries Advocate


Posted: Aug 19, 2012 12:36 PM    Msg. 3562 of 4332       
I like how the carbine is dirtier than the warthog.


renegade343
Joined: Jun 26, 2012

CE3 Stage Modeler, Editor, and Writer


Posted: Aug 19, 2012 01:21 PM    Msg. 3563 of 4332       
I think it's pretty nice, though?
It seems like on both shots (especially in The Arbiter's), the Hog seems a little bit more reflective and clean than it'd naturally look, though. Otherwise, I don't see too much wrong with it?


Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011

Dead.


Posted: Aug 19, 2012 01:51 PM    Msg. 3564 of 4332       
The shaders are the same as the Spartan's. xD


Svanke Svans
Joined: Apr 3, 2012


Posted: Aug 19, 2012 02:40 PM    Msg. 3565 of 4332       
both have that crappy cel-shading look


killzone64
Joined: Jun 9, 2010

sometimes i miss the chaos occasionally


Posted: Aug 19, 2012 02:54 PM    Msg. 3566 of 4332       
Can't get around that, it's in the bitmaps

Btw I'm basing my dhaders off what it looks like on sandtrap

In h3


Mine so far


Aha just found my problem, the lighting is too dull, need to brighten up the bsp
Edited by killzone64 on Aug 19, 2012 at 02:56 PM


SilentJacket
Joined: Jun 9, 2012

-Did I miss something?-


Posted: Aug 19, 2012 03:39 PM    Msg. 3567 of 4332       
specialized shaders?


killzone64
Joined: Jun 9, 2010

sometimes i miss the chaos occasionally


Posted: Aug 19, 2012 05:46 PM    Msg. 3568 of 4332       
Ok thanks for the advice waffles, I'll do that in a bit


The_Arbiter
Joined: Aug 23, 2011

I feel like having scotch


Posted: Aug 20, 2012 04:51 AM    Msg. 3569 of 4332       
you can notice the dirt now

comments please


TM_updates
Joined: Aug 31, 2011

Superior to you, Superior Musclez near Brussels


Posted: Aug 20, 2012 05:03 AM    Msg. 3570 of 4332       
Quote: --- Original message by: stryking










opinions thus far?


Best to surround your pictures with img tags for easy viewing :-)
It looks cool btw, but will it have some form of weaponry?
Edited by TM_updates on Aug 20, 2012 at 05:04 AM

 
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