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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010

"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"


Posted: May 26, 2010 06:31 PM    Msg. 4516 of 12975       
Heres some pics of a sniper I made




Like it?
Want it?
WELL I WON'T LET YOU!!!
JK JK If you awnt it I might let you have it.
If I can upload it....


-Skipdrow
Edited by Skidrow925 on May 27, 2010 at 02:19 PM


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: May 26, 2010 06:34 PM    Msg. 4517 of 12975       
...what if we don't like it or want it?

Proportions look slightly... unproportional, if you will. For example, the silencer is far larger than the scope, and there's very little room if any between the clip and the trigger. The bipod is oversized, and the stock is undersized. Compare your proportions to this:


Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010

"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"


Posted: May 26, 2010 06:49 PM    Msg. 4518 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
...what if we don't like it or want it?

Proportions look slightly... unproportional, if you will. For example, the silencer is far larger than the scope, and there's very little room if any between the clip and the trigger. The bipod is oversized, and the stock is undersized. Compare your proportions to this:


The scope on there is HUGE and it looks weird.
The silencer is huge for a reason.
It is to make it as quiet as possible.
And the bipod is also big for a reason.
To absorb the recoil. also it is not meant to be a light-fifty


-Skipdrow


Dark
Joined: Nov 10, 2008


Posted: May 26, 2010 06:50 PM    Msg. 4519 of 12975       
DO NOT WANT DO NOT WANT


doompig444
Joined: Mar 22, 2010

Mornië alantië


Posted: May 26, 2010 06:56 PM    Msg. 4520 of 12975       
JE NE VEUX PAS JE NE VEUX PAS


Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008


Posted: May 26, 2010 07:00 PM    Msg. 4521 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
...what if we don't like it or want it?

Proportions look slightly... unproportional, if you will. For example, the silencer is far larger than the scope, and there's very little room if any between the clip and the trigger. The bipod is oversized, and the stock is undersized. Compare your proportions to this:


A model based on a real gun from a game is not a good reference for a custom model.




ICEE
Joined: Mar 1, 2007

Hark!


Posted: May 26, 2010 07:28 PM    Msg. 4522 of 12975       
is there a reason it has 2 magazines?


Geared
Joined: Mar 6, 2009

EPI Creator


Posted: May 26, 2010 07:39 PM    Msg. 4523 of 12975       
skid, sorry but its ok but no...just no...scope is a midget...like something ud find on a paintball gun or bbgun....silencer is a tad short(or it may eb cause of angle) bipid doesn't absorb the recoil, teh compensator and u do....comon man. the bipod is only meant to steady urself while prone for long times. its liek using sandbags but u dont gotta lug one around. whats with taht can at the bottom, it doesn't even look connected to anything, put some wires or cables... so class lets review:

scope is a midget
silencer seems a tad short
bipod doesn't need ot be that long, just makes aiming a living hell while prone
that spray can doesn't seem to be attached to or with anything, give it some brackets, cables, hoses w/e.... dont just slap it on there....lol

btw the scope s huge cause its a goddamn fifty...(where the hell u ge the idea of a "light" fifty, no such goddamn thing man....) have u ever seen a real barret, or large caliber rifle? teh scopes are huge for a large zooming factor(wat is it like 10x or something) for 1mile kills or so(max effective for the barret is 1.5, or at least thats the best any one has gotten). b4 u try to refute things about real guns check ur facts. if ur doing a custom model, dont make it look like the real thing, ur just gonna get shut down...

jsut looked at the poly count...really dude? realy? 199k? alot of that detail is useless
the air cooler holes on teh barrel is pointless, the fire rate isnt high enough to heat up that it needs a cooler. the bipods can be lowered in poly count or even use alphas for it.
Edited by Geared on May 26, 2010 at 07:42 PM
Edited by Geared on May 26, 2010 at 07:46 PM


iHalo
Joined: Dec 5, 2009

Modeling ::Royal Carribean's Oasis of the Seas::


Posted: May 26, 2010 07:58 PM    Msg. 4524 of 12975       
Doesn't look that great, plus if I could work with 199k I'd have 199x the detail, I can remodel that with like 2k polies.


Slayer117
Joined: Oct 3, 2008

Host of CE3 2010-forever!


Posted: May 26, 2010 08:15 PM    Msg. 4525 of 12975       
Skid most of that stuff on the gun inst even yours.


PenGuin1362
Joined: Feb 4, 2008


Posted: May 26, 2010 08:41 PM    Msg. 4526 of 12975       
why is it 199k triangles? it should at most be around 10,000 but even that's pushing it. and you can't even play that off as a high poly because it clearly demonstrates you have no idea what the proper work flow is and over purpose of a high poly. also i can't even tell what's going on, you have like half the receiver intersecting with itself and for christ's sake at least learn how to do a decent render so i can at least attempt to see what you're making. (see: http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9328 )

don't like
don't want
try again


Geared
Joined: Mar 6, 2009

EPI Creator


Posted: May 26, 2010 08:42 PM    Msg. 4527 of 12975       
for once i concur with penguin


Cocaine
Joined: Mar 2, 2009

Can't stop napping.


Posted: May 26, 2010 08:52 PM    Msg. 4528 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: ICEE
is there a reason it has 2 magazines?

Is there? I didn't notice.
He probably ripped it from Call of Duty and then added the cylinder onto the top.
Or he actually modelled it.


Maniac1000
-Helpful Poster-
Joined: Feb 24, 2007


Posted: May 26, 2010 09:13 PM    Msg. 4529 of 12975       
You are trying to "tease" people with that abomination?


Geared
Joined: Mar 6, 2009

EPI Creator


Posted: May 26, 2010 09:28 PM    Msg. 4530 of 12975       
at 119,000 triangles? really? someone hold down the tessellate key a bit long?


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: May 27, 2010 12:35 AM    Msg. 4531 of 12975       
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh1wJXmhoI0

For Savior if Mythie wants >>

If not, then I guess I'll use them >>


doompig444
Joined: Mar 22, 2010

Mornië alantië


Posted: May 27, 2010 12:37 AM    Msg. 4532 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh1wJXmhoI0

For Savior if Mythie wants >>

If not, then I guess I'll use them >>


can I have also :(


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: May 27, 2010 12:54 AM    Msg. 4533 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: doompig444
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh1wJXmhoI0

For Savior if Mythie wants >>

If not, then I guess I'll use them >>


can I have also :(


No gtfo you suck get out

Yea. I need to make the overlays and stuff though. Gimme til the end of the week to get them ingame.


doompig444
Joined: Mar 22, 2010

Mornië alantië


Posted: May 27, 2010 01:02 AM    Msg. 4534 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
Quote: --- Original message by: doompig444
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh1wJXmhoI0

For Savior if Mythie wants >>

If not, then I guess I'll use them >>


can I have also :(


No gtfo you suck get out

Yea. I need to make the overlays and stuff though. Gimme til the end of the week to get them ingame.


/workpaceofsnail

m00kz: NO OVERLAYZ ALLOUD
Edited by doompig444 on May 27, 2010 at 01:02 AM


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: May 27, 2010 01:11 AM    Msg. 4535 of 12975       
No, because I procrastinated on all my final projects which are due extremely soon, such that I could make these. Since tomorrow's a Thursday, I'm gonna have to work my ass off to catch up, because everything's always due on Fridays.


spartin115
Joined: Sep 26, 2009


Posted: May 27, 2010 02:00 AM    Msg. 4536 of 12975       
Any one considering making this


its the primary AR of the Australin Defence Forece.
I firerd one, it has low kickback.
Edited by spartin115 on May 27, 2010 at 02:01 AM


eliteslasher
Joined: Jun 30, 2008

Crysis 3!!!!!!! All I have to say. :D


Posted: May 27, 2010 02:17 AM    Msg. 4537 of 12975       
I thought way back in this thread someone already did work on one.


spartin115
Joined: Sep 26, 2009


Posted: May 27, 2010 02:19 AM    Msg. 4538 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: eliteslasher
I thought way back in this thread someone already did work on one.


Realy?

edit: found this http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-steyr-aug-gun/274610

I carnt download the modle because I dont have a turbosquid account.
Edited by spartin115 on May 27, 2010 at 02:26 AM


eliteslasher
Joined: Jun 30, 2008

Crysis 3!!!!!!! All I have to say. :D


Posted: May 27, 2010 02:24 AM    Msg. 4539 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: spartin115
Quote: --- Original message by: eliteslasher
I thought way back in this thread someone already did work on one.


Realy?


Not sure but I suppose you can look.
Keep in mind I said "I thought" lol


Mythril
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Screenshot Guru
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Joined: Mar 29, 2008

Jeffrey Albert Waldo


Posted: May 27, 2010 03:37 AM    Msg. 4540 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh1wJXmhoI0

For Savior if Mythie wants >>

If not, then I guess I'll use them >>

Do want. 1 more day ):
stupid timezones.


anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: May 27, 2010 04:00 AM    Msg. 4541 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925
Heres some pics of a sniper I made

Like it?
Want it?
WELL I WON'T LET YOU!!!


-Skipdrow


No, we do not want... its like 200,000 Triangles. That will lag like crazy in Halo. Are you retarded.
And why are you being big headed like that? It is crap... did you even make it because I can see my SMG inside the Sniper... so you have used the grips from it and the silencer :/
Edited by anonymous_2009 on May 27, 2010 at 05:21 AM


doompig444
Joined: Mar 22, 2010

Mornië alantië


Posted: May 27, 2010 04:23 AM    Msg. 4542 of 12975       
Moral of story: Don't post a model and be like, "HAHA YOU GUYS CAN'T HAVE THIS" unless it actually is something truly amazing...


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: May 27, 2010 07:51 AM    Msg. 4543 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925
Like it? It's kind of bulky, I like those weapons I suppose
Want it? No, not really. Your triangle count is ridiculous and would kill my computer
WELL I WON'T LET YOU!!! Oh, well then forget I said anything you a-hole


-Skipdrow
Your front grip is also clipping the holes in the gun (I can see it through the wholes instead of just a nice looking interior to a hole >_>) The bipod IS too big, there's no reason to make it big so it can 'absorb more recoil.' It also looks like it gets in the way of any animator trying to animate the fudgin' thing.

Why is the handle an SMG handle? That doesn't fit in at all.
What's up with the second magazine in there too which can't be a shotgun one because there's no shotgun (seriously, just get rid of it+that ugly front grip).


032 Mendicant Bias
Joined: Feb 25, 2010

Magnum periculum est elit.


Posted: May 27, 2010 09:23 AM    Msg. 4544 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh1wJXmhoI0

For Savior if Mythie wants >>

If not, then I guess I'll use them >>

Do want
Edited by Yoko R on May 27, 2010 at 09:24 AM


Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010

"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"


Posted: May 27, 2010 01:19 PM    Msg. 4545 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Geared

skid, sorry but its ok but no...just no...scope is a midget...like something ud find on a paintball gun or bbgun....silencer is a tad short(or it may eb cause of angle) bipid doesn't absorb the recoil, teh compensator and u do....comon man. the bipod is only meant to steady urself while prone for long times. its liek using sandbags but u dont gotta lug one around. whats with taht can at the bottom, it doesn't even look connected to anything, put some wires or cables... so class lets review:

scope is a midget
silencer seems a tad short
bipod doesn't need ot be that long, just makes aiming a living hell while prone
that spray can doesn't seem to be attached to or with anything, give it some brackets, cables, hoses w/e.... dont just slap it on there....lol

btw the scope s huge cause its a goddamn fifty...(where the hell u ge the idea of a "light" fifty, no such goddamn thing man....) have u ever seen a real barret, or large caliber rifle? teh scopes are huge for a large zooming factor(wat is it like 10x or something) for 1mile kills or so(max effective for the barret is 1.5, or at least thats the best any one has gotten). b4 u try to refute things about real guns check ur facts. if ur doing a custom model, dont make it look like the real thing, ur just gonna get shut down...

jsut looked at the poly count...really dude? realy? 199k? alot of that detail is useless
the air cooler holes on teh barrel is pointless, the fire rate isnt high enough to heat up that it needs a cooler. the bipods can be lowered in poly count or even use alphas for it.
Edited by Geared on May 26, 2010 at 07:42 PM
Edited by Geared on May 26, 2010 at 07:46 PM


The Barrett is considered a light fifty cause it is not as heavy as for example the XM500 which is at least 10 lbs more.
This weapon is NOT supposed to be a Barrett 50 BMG sniper rifle.
It has a lot of polys and tris cause I had some high poly stuff in use with it.
There are 2 mags cause there is an integral SMG with an integral silencer (THATS THE CYLENDEWR ON THE BOTTOM). I will admit the Fore grip is a bit to close to the main mag. And the scope doesn't need to be HUGE to get a nice zoom level.
In short I can make it do what I want Also that is a W.I.P.!!! It doesn't have to be PERFECT!
And yes I do know what I am talking about.
And yes the Bipod IS for recoil compensation. Like it or not it is true.
I'll fix it up a bit and then post some more pics.
Think I covered everything.


-Skipdrow
Edited by Skidrow925 on May 27, 2010 at 01:20 PM


Maniac1000
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Joined: Feb 24, 2007


Posted: May 27, 2010 02:05 PM    Msg. 4546 of 12975       
No you really do not have any idea what you are talking about.
You dont even know the command to get a bsp model in game or how to link a model to a frame, how do you expect us to believe that you know what you are talking about.
Maybe if you change your crappy attitude then your stay here might be a little more pleasant.
Edited by Maniac1000 on May 27, 2010 at 02:05 PM


Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010

"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"


Posted: May 27, 2010 02:28 PM    Msg. 4547 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000

No you really do not have any idea what you are talking about.
You dont even know the command to get a bsp model in game or how to link a model to a frame, how do you expect us to believe that you know what you are talking about.
Maybe if you change your crappy attitude then your stay here might be a little more pleasant.
Edited by Maniac1000 on May 27, 2010 at 02:05 PM


Meh I was mad when I posted that. But yes I do know somewhat about real weapons. Even though I have not figured out how tool makes a BSP.
And I just remembered that thing on the bottom is supposed to be a shotgun. Also I wasn't planning on useing it for halo. Not that model anyway. That is sort of a base model.
And anonymous what makes you think that is your SMG model? Can you be sure?
Quote: Maybe if you change your crappy attitude then your stay here might be a little more pleasant.

Not likeily to happen. well the ''might be a little more pleasant.'' is not likeily to happen.
I have a little fixed up model.

WireFrame:


Solid:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/250/solidw.jpg

Shotgun silencer.
Shotgun clip.
Shotgun grip.
Sniper silencer.
Other thingie is the Stock.
Notice the finer details as apposed to the other pictures.
And is it possible to reduce the polys from this model? I am just wondering if it is possible.
And I might let someone have this model if they can use it.


-Skipdrow
Edited by Skidrow925 on May 27, 2010 at 02:30 PM


PenGuin1362
Joined: Feb 4, 2008


Posted: May 27, 2010 02:35 PM    Msg. 4548 of 12975       
The Barret .50 weighs approximately 30lbs (empty) with the majority of the weight held in the barrel, it is not meant to be a hand held weapon. The average person can not shoulder this weapon and fire it accurately (not even your average soldier). I do weight training 3 days a week and even I had trouble holding it up. It is no where near a "light fifty". As for the XM500, it weighs approximately 4 pounds less than the Barret...so um...not sure where you're getting this terrible misconceptions from.

The bipod is hardly used for recoil compensation, yes it does aid in that fact but it's primary use is to increase accuracy in a prone position (In the Barret's case, the only practical firing position). You have demonstrated a clear lack of knowledge in the realm of firearms

As for the model, we know it's a WIP which is why we're giving you a critique of it so you can fix it before you waste anymore time on things you shouldn't be doing. For example, no first person model should exceed 11,000 triangles, and even that is kinda pushing it. And that only applies to "next-gen" engines currently on the market. Halo shouldn't really exceed 6,000 otherwise it will hinder other performance. Not to mention you're putting emphasis on details in all the wrong places where the player would never see. If it's not a game model, fine your model still makes no sense what so ever and is a total eyesore


Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010

"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"


Posted: May 27, 2010 02:45 PM    Msg. 4549 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: PenGuin1362
The Barret .50 weighs approximately 30lbs (empty) with the majority of the weight held in the barrel, it is not meant to be a hand held weapon. The average person can not shoulder this weapon and fire it accurately (not even your average soldier). I do weight training 3 days a week and even I had trouble holding it up. It is no where near a "light fifty". As for the XM500, it weighs approximately 4 pounds less than the Barret...so um...not sure where you're getting this terrible misconceptions from.

The bipod is hardly used for recoil compensation, yes it does aid in that fact but it's primary use is to increase accuracy in a prone position (In the Barret's case, the only practical firing position). You have demonstrated a clear lack of knowledge in the realm of firearms

As for the model, we know it's a WIP which is why we're giving you a critique of it so you can fix it before you waste anymore time on things you shouldn't be doing. For example, no first person model should exceed 11,000 triangles, and even that is kinda pushing it. And that only applies to "next-gen" engines currently on the market. Halo shouldn't really exceed 6,000 otherwise it will hinder other performance. Not to mention you're putting emphasis on details in all the wrong places where the player would never see. If it's not a game model, fine your model still makes no sense what so ever and is a total eyesore

Well had I known that everyone would act like this I might have never posted it.
And for the frecking last time IT IS NOT A BARRETT! geez.
Just because it has a Barrett stock and sorta Barrett body everyone automatically asumes it is a Barrett.


PenGuin1362
Joined: Feb 4, 2008


Posted: May 27, 2010 02:52 PM    Msg. 4550 of 12975       
I never said it was a Barret, I was correcting you misconceptions regarding the Barret. I told you what is wrong with your physical model. Too many triangles, wasted details, and it makes no sense, you just have 2 types of guns mushed together, and the way they're thrown together doesn't look appealing, it literally just looks like intersecting meshes
Edited by PenGuin1362 on May 27, 2010 at 02:54 PM

 
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