
wesman
Joined: Mar 18, 2008
no your a freezer
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Posted: May 27, 2010 03:12 PM
Msg. 4551 of 12975
I really don't see why you have 200,000 polys in that model, that's absolute overkill.
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: May 27, 2010 04:49 PM
Msg. 4552 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: PenGuin1362
I never said it was a Barret, I was correcting you misconceptions regarding the Barret. I told you what is wrong with your physical model. Too many triangles, wasted details, and it makes no sense, you just have 2 types of guns mushed together, and the way they're thrown together doesn't look appealing, it literally just looks like intersecting meshes Edited by PenGuin1362 on May 27, 2010 at 02:54 PM Yes but the way you all are critqueing it you act like it is supposed to be a Barrett. Like the scope to small the bipod to big stuff like that. It has a lot of tris and polys because I used a high poly model in it.
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wesman
Joined: Mar 18, 2008
no your a freezer
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Posted: May 27, 2010 05:01 PM
Msg. 4553 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: PenGuin1362
I never said it was a Barret, I was correcting you misconceptions regarding the Barret. I told you what is wrong with your physical model. Too many triangles, wasted details, and it makes no sense, you just have 2 types of guns mushed together, and the way they're thrown together doesn't look appealing, it literally just looks like intersecting meshes Edited by PenGuin1362 on May 27, 2010 at 02:54 PM Yes but the way you all are critqueing it you act like it is supposed to be a Barrett. Like the scope to small the bipod to big stuff like that. It has a lot of tris and polys because I used a high poly model in it. Don't combine two guns, just model in the part you need. It looks a lot better, and saves polys. Although, you probably need to do more than that because there is no reason why something like that should be over 200,000 polygons. And its fine if your using a smaller scope, but it needs to be raised above the iron sights. Edited by wesman on May 27, 2010 at 05:03 PM
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: May 27, 2010 05:22 PM
Msg. 4554 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: wesmanQuote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: PenGuin1362
I never said it was a Barret, I was correcting you misconceptions regarding the Barret. I told you what is wrong with your physical model. Too many triangles, wasted details, and it makes no sense, you just have 2 types of guns mushed together, and the way they're thrown together doesn't look appealing, it literally just looks like intersecting meshes Edited by PenGuin1362 on May 27, 2010 at 02:54 PM Yes but the way you all are critqueing it you act like it is supposed to be a Barrett. Like the scope to small the bipod to big stuff like that. It has a lot of tris and polys because I used a high poly model in it. Don't combine two guns, just model in the part you need. It looks a lot better, and saves polys. Although, you probably need to do more than that because there is no reason why something like that should be over 200,000 polygons. And its fine if your using a smaller scope, but it needs to be raised above the iron sights. Edited by wesman on May 27, 2010 at 05:03 PM Finally... Someone who isn't biting my head off. For that you get a cookie. And OK I will keep that in mind. That was one of the first weaps I have made. Actually it was about 4 guns I used as well as modeling some parts to it. Also I don't even know why it has almost 200k polys I had a high poly gun though. -Skipdrow
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wesman
Joined: Mar 18, 2008
no your a freezer
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Posted: May 27, 2010 05:29 PM
Msg. 4555 of 12975
Don't combine guns it looks sloppy and explains why you have such a high poly count. No one is biting your head off here, people just critique you a lot harsher because they've been doing it for so long. It would be smart to take all the advice you can get from them.
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Corvette19
Joined: Feb 27, 2007
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Posted: May 27, 2010 06:37 PM
Msg. 4556 of 12975
We also like pissing douchebags off. Success.
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Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008
- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -
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Posted: May 27, 2010 07:51 PM
Msg. 4557 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: wesmanQuote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: PenGuin1362
I never said it was a Barret, I was correcting you misconceptions regarding the Barret. I told you what is wrong with your physical model. Too many triangles, wasted details, and it makes no sense, you just have 2 types of guns mushed together, and the way they're thrown together doesn't look appealing, it literally just looks like intersecting meshes Edited by PenGuin1362 on May 27, 2010 at 02:54 PM Yes but the way you all are critqueing it you act like it is supposed to be a Barrett. Like the scope to small the bipod to big stuff like that. It has a lot of tris and polys because I used a high poly model in it. Don't combine two guns, just model in the part you need. It looks a lot better, and saves polys. Although, you probably need to do more than that because there is no reason why something like that should be over 200,000 polygons. And its fine if your using a smaller scope, but it needs to be raised above the iron sights. Edited by wesman on May 27, 2010 at 05:03 PM Finally... Someone who isn't biting my head off. For that you get a cookie. And OK I will keep that in mind. That was one of the first weaps I have made. Actually it was about 4 guns I used as well as modeling some parts to it. Also I don't even know why it has almost 200k polys I had a high poly gun though. -Skipdrow We aren't flaming you at all, you have probably 100 times more polies than needed. That gun isn't considered high poly. If you want to see something high poly go ahead and look at this- http://th04.deviantart.net/fs37/PRE/f/2008/248/6/3/Sniper_Rifle_by_beere.jpgThis is done through sub division. Right now, your gun looks like it was plane modeled but with a trillion more polygons needed. Edited by Newbkilla on May 27, 2010 at 07:52 PM
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Hydrogen
Joined: Dec 6, 2009
Wort Wort Wort...
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Posted: May 27, 2010 08:22 PM
Msg. 4558 of 12975
ok compare it to the cmt spec sniper rifle from grove.... not the scope or mag just the silencer
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doompig444
Joined: Mar 22, 2010
Mornië alantië
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Posted: May 27, 2010 08:26 PM
Msg. 4559 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: NewbkillaQuote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: wesmanQuote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: PenGuin1362
I never said it was a Barret, I was correcting you misconceptions regarding the Barret. I told you what is wrong with your physical model. Too many triangles, wasted details, and it makes no sense, you just have 2 types of guns mushed together, and the way they're thrown together doesn't look appealing, it literally just looks like intersecting meshes Edited by PenGuin1362 on May 27, 2010 at 02:54 PM Yes but the way you all are critqueing it you act like it is supposed to be a Barrett. Like the scope to small the bipod to big stuff like that. It has a lot of tris and polys because I used a high poly model in it. Don't combine two guns, just model in the part you need. It looks a lot better, and saves polys. Although, you probably need to do more than that because there is no reason why something like that should be over 200,000 polygons. And its fine if your using a smaller scope, but it needs to be raised above the iron sights. Edited by wesman on May 27, 2010 at 05:03 PM Finally... Someone who isn't biting my head off. For that you get a cookie. -cookiepic- And OK I will keep that in mind. That was one of the first weaps I have made. Actually it was about 4 guns I used as well as modeling some parts to it. Also I don't even know why it has almost 200k polys I had a high poly gun though. -Skipdrow We aren't flaming you at all, you have probably 100 times more polies than needed. That gun isn't considered high poly. If you want to see something high poly go ahead and look at this- http://th04.deviantart.net/fs37/PRE/f/2008/248/6/3/Sniper_Rifle_by_beere.jpgThis is done through sub division. Right now, your gun looks like it was plane modeled but with a trillion more polygons needed. Edited by Newbkilla on May 27, 2010 at 07:52 PM sweet model, no idea why, it reminds me of unreal tournament
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Hydrogen
Joined: Dec 6, 2009
Wort Wort Wort...
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Posted: May 27, 2010 08:28 PM
Msg. 4560 of 12975
is it like the intervention shooting wise?
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Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008
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Posted: May 27, 2010 09:24 PM
Msg. 4561 of 12975
Idk, but the creator did say it was based off of ut3. I find his work inspiring. If you want inspiration check deviant art
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: May 27, 2010 09:37 PM
Msg. 4562 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Vern125 Someone should make a gun shooting cookies as a primary fire and milk as the secondary. What you want it to look like? I just might try that. lol You can share that cookie with him. Also that sniper looks strange. -Skipdrow
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doompig444
Joined: Mar 22, 2010
Mornië alantië
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Posted: May 27, 2010 10:08 PM
Msg. 4563 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925 Also that sniper looks strange.
Really, now? Seriously? At least point out what's "strange" about it.
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Corvette19
Joined: Feb 27, 2007
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Posted: May 27, 2010 10:50 PM
Msg. 4564 of 12975
Use one of my weapon concepts from the page before.
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Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008
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Posted: May 27, 2010 11:20 PM
Msg. 4565 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: Vern125 Someone should make a gun shooting cookies as a primary fire and milk as the secondary. What you want it to look like? I just might try that. lol You can share that cookie with him. Also that sniper looks strange. -Skipdrow Quite honestly coming from a person who made a pretty crappy "barret" calling another persons work weird, which is 100x better kind of ironic, would you say? No harsh feelings, but that is a really cool sniper in my opinion, and if you didn't get it, it's a sci fi sniper, which means it wouldn't exactly work in real life. derf hurf.
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Marka Haiyana
Joined: Mar 24, 2009
w0rt
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Posted: May 28, 2010 01:55 AM
Msg. 4566 of 12975
target weld verts on straight edges so you don't have all those polys
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Mythril
- Screenshot Guru -
Joined: Mar 29, 2008
Jeffrey Albert Waldo
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Posted: May 28, 2010 03:56 AM
Msg. 4567 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925 Well had I known that everyone would act like this I might have never posted it. I think it is more of your attitude which makes more people post crit which you consider harsh - it makes you seem hubristic. You're actually getting good advice on it. Oh and, please try to refrain from posting large cookie pictures- it isn't really funny.
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anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
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Posted: May 28, 2010 04:51 AM
Msg. 4568 of 12975
@Skidrow925
Yes it is mine, the author can always tell when something is his... Everyone hated that front grip which I made. So give credit where due ass bag. You should of checked where you downloaded it from...
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Geared
Joined: Mar 6, 2009
EPI Creator
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Posted: May 28, 2010 01:06 PM
Msg. 4569 of 12975
anyways back OT sniper im making. might rescale teh bolt(feel its a tad long) and redo the front half: any comments/suggestions? (if u have a suggestion please edit the image to show me lol....) tnx penguin for rendering tut Edited by Geared on May 28, 2010 at 01:09 PM
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: May 28, 2010 01:14 PM
Msg. 4570 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: NewbkillaQuote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: Vern125 Someone should make a gun shooting cookies as a primary fire and milk as the secondary. What you want it to look like? I just might try that. lol You can share that cookie with him. Also that sniper looks strange. -Skipdrow Quite honestly coming from a person who made a pretty crappy "barret" calling another persons work weird, which is 100x better kind of ironic, would you say? No harsh feelings, but that is a really cool sniper in my opinion, and if you didn't get it, it's a sci fi sniper, which means it wouldn't exactly work in real life. derf hurf. I KNEW IT I KNEW IT I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!! IT IS NOT A FRECKING BARRETT!!!!!!!! Sheese. And for a sniper that gun doesn't quite look like it would be a sniper. And I know its a ''sci fi sniper'' I am not that dumb. And I made a new custom Barrett, I was basing it of a picture of another Barrett I had found. Also I think I messed up some parts. Like that better then my custom sniper? Probabily. -Skipdrow EDIT: That sniper you made... That is exactly the same as a gun I drew a while back... DEAD same.. That's just weird. -Skipdrow Edited by Skidrow925 on May 28, 2010 at 01:18 PM
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Maniac1000
-Helpful Poster-
Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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Posted: May 28, 2010 01:19 PM
Msg. 4571 of 12975
Learn to render. And no, it is terrible looking.
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: May 28, 2010 03:26 PM
Msg. 4572 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000 Learn to render. And no, it is terrible looking. Coming from you... that's not much. Also that is just the base model with quite a few bugs in it. Also it was designed to go into HaloCE. -Skipdrow Edited by Skidrow925 on May 28, 2010 at 03:29 PM
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PenGuin1362
Joined: Feb 4, 2008
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Posted: May 28, 2010 03:44 PM
Msg. 4573 of 12975
Please refer to one of my earlier posts about rendering (like a page back) Renders are imperative for making out details and getting a full understanding of the model. Also you have some terrible errors in there, not sure what you did to the rail mount, magazine, or pistol grip but those faces are f'd up. triangle count is better but learn to render, fix those faces, and triangle count is still pretty high for lacking some details. fake e: here I including the rendering tutorial link for you http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9328
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Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008
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Posted: May 28, 2010 03:55 PM
Msg. 4574 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000 Learn to render. And no, it is terrible looking. Coming from you... that's not much. Also that is just the base model with quite a few bugs in it. Also it was designed to go into HaloCE. -Skipdrow Edited by Skidrow925 on May 28, 2010 at 03:29 PM Really, like 199k polies is designed for halo. And also, maniac is a respected member, you come in here saying, Oh look at me i am awesome look at my gun, and we all say it sucks, because it does "partially". You throw a huge tantrum. What gun were you refering to when you said drew up? And also, please stop with the sig, because that is annoying to look at knowing you do it manually. E/ Also, if it isn't a barret, then why does it look very similar, and why are you using a barret reference? Owned, I think so. Edited by Newbkilla on May 28, 2010 at 03:56 PM
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Geared
Joined: Mar 6, 2009
EPI Creator
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Posted: May 28, 2010 04:25 PM
Msg. 4575 of 12975
he is referring to mine, that ar sniper gun i modeled(and tnx again penguin for rendering tut, looks laot better then stock clay rendering)
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: May 28, 2010 05:22 PM
Msg. 4576 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: NewbkillaQuote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000 Learn to render. And no, it is terrible looking. Coming from you... that's not much. Also that is just the base model with quite a few bugs in it. Also it was designed to go into HaloCE. -Skipdrow Edited by Skidrow925 on May 28, 2010 at 03:29 PM Really, like 199k polies is designed for halo. And also, maniac is a respected member, you come in here saying, Oh look at me i am awesome look at my gun, and we all say it sucks, because it does "partially". You throw a huge tantrum. What gun were you referring to when you said drew up? And also, please stop with the sig, because that is annoying to look at knowing you do it manually. E/ Also, if it isn't a barret, then why does it look very similar, and why are you using a barret reference? Owned, I think so. Edited by Newbkilla on May 28, 2010 at 03:56 PM Because I had a Barrett for the model of the 4 guns. The Barrett that I made was the one for Halo not the Other sniper. Also I would have used the XM500 or C-TAC but I didn't have a model of either. And my sig is fine. -Skipdrow
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Maniac1000
-Helpful Poster-
Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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Posted: May 28, 2010 05:26 PM
Msg. 4577 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000 Learn to render. And no, it is terrible looking. Coming from you... that's not much. Care to explain what you mean by that?
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: May 28, 2010 05:37 PM
Msg. 4578 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000 Learn to render. And no, it is terrible looking. Coming from you... that's not much. Care to explain what you mean by that? Sure. You are not being very nice. Therefore I am going to ignore you until you stop hating me. Simple. -Skipdrow
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Dark
Joined: Nov 10, 2008
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Posted: May 28, 2010 05:39 PM
Msg. 4579 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000 Learn to render. And no, it is terrible looking. Coming from you... that's not much. Care to explain what you mean by that? Sure. You are not being very nice. Therefore I am going to ignore you until you stop hating me. Simple. -Skipdrow someones butt hurt caz we don't like his model :BBBBBBBBBBBB
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Maniac1000
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Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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Posted: May 28, 2010 05:52 PM
Msg. 4580 of 12975
You are right, i am not being very nice. I only care about your attitude, you can ask anyone here, i dont care if you can or cant model, i dont care if you know the halo engine or not, i dont care if you have over ambitious goals.
Try to treat others with a little respect and im sure it will be returned. I dont hate anyone here and i have in fact tried to help you in other topics.
As a newcomer to the forums, i dont expect you to know a vast amount about modding hce, but its not too much to ask for you to use some manners is it?
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: May 28, 2010 06:15 PM
Msg. 4581 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000 You are right, i am not being very nice. I only care about your attitude, you can ask anyone here, i dont care if you can or cant model, i dont care if you know the halo engine or not, i dont care if you have over ambitious goals.
Try to treat others with a little respect and im sure it will be returned. I dont hate anyone here and i have in fact tried to help you in other topics.
As a newcomer to the forums, i dont expect you to know a vast amount about modding hce, but its not too much to ask for you to use some manners is it? ............ DELETED!
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Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Steam: gamma927
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Posted: May 28, 2010 06:38 PM
Msg. 4582 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925 ............ DELETED! I must agree with Maniac, that your patronizing, ignorant, and supercilious attitude is not getting you far. It's not too difficult to apologize, and yet you continue to hold a childish grudge against Maniac. If that's the way you'd like to treat others, expect to have the same attitude returned.
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Maniac1000
-Helpful Poster-
Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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Posted: May 28, 2010 07:09 PM
Msg. 4583 of 12975
So, maybe we should try this again? Welcome to the forum Skidrow925. Please take the time to read the stickey threads, and enjoy your stay.
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Geared
Joined: Mar 6, 2009
EPI Creator
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Posted: May 28, 2010 07:29 PM
Msg. 4584 of 12975
i concur with the aforementioned statement.......
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Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010
"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"
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Posted: May 28, 2010 07:48 PM
Msg. 4585 of 12975
Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000 So, maybe we should try this again? Welcome to the forum Skidrow925. Please take the time to read the stickey threads, and enjoy your stay. ok. UNDELETED!Will do. Thank you. -Skipdrow
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