This has got to be the best option. I'd have to side with this one.

I can only flip it one way because if I flip it inside then people won't be able to see it outside, right?

You're doing it in the wrong way. If you want your walls to be visible from both the interiors and the exteriors, you need to make the plane two-sided (not recommended since it could give you errors in Tool) or make the wall out of boxes, keeping in mind that everything needs to be sealed together

You need to think about it realistically: have you ever seen a wall as thin as a paper sheet in real life?
Edited by SOI_7 on Oct 22, 2016 at 07:05 AM

You're right. But Now I have to redo the base to accommodate the extra faces :/ Or is it worth taking the risk to make it 2 sided?


Or can I use portals to render the inside when people actually go in there?
Edited by Super Alex on Oct 22, 2016 at 07:23 AM

Not sure about portals, but they could lead to visible popping geometry once you enter the room, which will look bad. Also, unless I'm wrong, portals don't override the "overlapping edges" error (which is the error you'll get if you make the wall two-sided, unless you make it one-sided and give the two-sided property to the material it uses adding the "%" symbol to the material name).

But think about when you'll look at the wall from its side... it will just be like staring at a thin card

SOI's right. Rebuild your base if you are confused.

Don't worry. I just sealed my base.




I have applied textures to the base and I exported it to my other max file with my map in it.







I attached the base then exported and I compiled bitmaps. Tool asked me to make a choice 1-9 to make a shader. I said 1. It then told me that it could not create the shader tag whatever I tried.

Debug:
10.23.16 11:23:20 tool pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
10.23.16 11:23:20 reference function: _write_to_error_file
10.23.16 11:23:20 reference address: 42ca20
10.23.16 11:23:20 Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'
10.23.16 11:23:32 failed to create new tag '.shader_environment'
10.23.16 11:23:33 failed to create new tag '.shader_environment'
10.23.16 11:23:33 some shaders were not defined

I then made the Shader myself in guerrilla. I still will not compile. Please help.


Also the textures for the map and the base are in the same bitmaps folder btw.
Edited by Super Alex on Oct 23, 2016 at 06:26 AM

One of your shaders doesn't exist in your data folder, or you wrote its name wrong. Be sure to use "_" instead of spaces, just in case
Edited by SOI_7 on Oct 23, 2016 at 07:29 AM

You mean tags soi.

If you are using a new texture you need to make sure you create a shader with the same name as the name you have applied to your MAT shader in 3dsmax.



Using the image above as an example we see a multi sub object with 3 child shader slots.

Notice that each of the shader slots has a name, "grey metal", "black paint" e.t.c these names are what you would use to identify the shader as.

Once you have compiled your bitmaps for your map you should then create your shader environment tag/s which mirror the same name as what you have identified in the 3dsmax editor.

e.g Max Mat shader name = "glass_brown" so the tag shader which you create should mirror EXACTLY the same name. I'd also recommend that you replace spaces with underscores inside of max and then again mirror the same in you shader env tag.

Once you have created your shader tag save into your directory i.e:

data\levels\test\harambe

So the tag should be saved in: data\levels\test\harambe\shaders (note you may have to create your own shaders folder before saving your tag within your map project folder location.

It's nice to see that Alex is learning :)

hey... this is cool. nice to see the new guys stepping up and learning stuff. now i wont feel so bad about quitting ce sometime in the near future

Yeah, I thought I should finish at least ONE of my projects so I can confirm to myself that I can actually finish one instead of thinking I can. Unnnnnnnnfortunately the past 3 pages hasn't been about learning, it's been more about your typical drama that you have come to expect on this website. But no matter, they have seemed to have calmed down.





Thank you! Good luck to you on your work and I completely understand how work can hoover up your free time which makes it impossible to carry on making mods. I always enjoy looking at your screenshots of your blender maps and your projects.





Anyway, I have seem to come across a new error that I think I have seen before but not quite sure.





Please help.

Close 3ds max. Sometimes the jms exporter hangs onto the file. If not just restart your computer

It can also be caused by the JMS still being exported by max, so it's also best to wait a bit if you didn't already.

Put your modding install somewhere else than program files, sometimes tool has issues reading it in the protected environment of program files.

Now my exporter isn't even opening up :/ I will try and fix it.




Meanwhile, I have been working on another map that's inspired by PopeAK49's 10K Halo Themed map.

Sorry for more derailment, but: Dreamweb isn't cancelled, it's mine now.

Also, you making up stuff isn't funny either, Luke.


Edit: I cancelled Dreamweb.
Edited by SBB_Michelle on Nov 5, 2016 at 04:32 PM

FTFY

Its clear the 10k part isnt inspiring you. Mine as well bump up the iterations on that ground again. Weld some of those cliff geometry too, looking alil too highpoly on the cliffs relative to the ground.

Those smoothing groups should also help when it comes to do lighting! topnotch stuff youre working on. Dreamweb is really shaping up.

The ground is already High-poly as it is. I have optimized the mesh down and added some geo on both sides of the beam emitter. It looks like this.





This is what it looks like in-game.









I am also using the JMS exporter 1.0.2 by CtrlAltDestroy.
Edited by Super Alex on Oct 28, 2016 at 07:55 AM

I can't tell if your ground is way too highpoly or if your cliffs are way too lowpoly

It appears to be both.

~ Map_name "enigma"

some uv i did for the first time.







Edited by Super Alex on Oct 30, 2016 at 12:16 PM

Use images as reference.






And post less zhit.
Edited by Halonimator on Nov 2, 2016 at 01:28 PM

That's awesome, I want to play that.

Wireframe pl0x

It doesn't look that bad...

model looks great textures need work. good to see improvement from you halonimator

Having a bit of an issue. When I place a spawn point of Vehicles, AI, Scenery, doesn't matter, Sapien crashes.



My map:









Debug.txt:

11.01.16 19:39:33  sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
11.01.16 19:39:33  reference function: _write_to_error_file
11.01.16 19:39:33  reference address: 401b13
11.01.16 19:39:33  Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
11.01.16 19:39:33  *found 2 adapters...
11.01.16 19:39:34  CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
11.01.16 19:39:34  Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements.  Disabling hardware option.
11.01.16 19:39:35  Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
11.01.16 19:39:37  WARNING: 1 clusters in structure_bsp levels\kickass\kickass have no background sound or sound environment.
11.01.16 19:39:37  local player 0, weapon (0x0), deleted unexpectedly
11.01.16 19:40:01  EAX: 0x00000000
11.01.16 19:40:01  EBX: 0x17D1E370
11.01.16 19:40:01  ECX: 0x177F5600
11.01.16 19:40:01  EDX: 0x00000000
11.01.16 19:40:01  EDI: 0x17864750
11.01.16 19:40:01  ESI: 0x1763FAD0
11.01.16 19:40:01  EBP: 0x18598B12
11.01.16 19:40:01  ESP: 0x0019EB20
11.01.16 19:40:01  EIP: 0x0064023A, F7 79 60 52 ?????
11.01.16 19:40:01  EXCEPTION_INT_DIVIDE_BY_ZERO

Your model has to many polygons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6KJuuKN7ds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FBCTI4MLMo
Edited by Halonimator on Nov 4, 2016 at 04:19 PM

Please if you aren't sure what the remedy might be......it's best to just stay quiet.



1. Export your bsp model as an obj and reimport it back into max, setup the frame and mat editor again as you did before with the original, apply only two materials to the model, one bitmap for the terrain make sure to only use a default vanilla texture and use a standard shader slot for the sky.

2. Delete or move whatever tags you had already setup for the map, compile your bitmaps, structure and lightmaps and test.

REMEMBER TO REMOVE OR BACKUP ANY FILES FROM THE /DATA OR /TAGS DIRECTORY BEFORE YOU TROUBLE SHOOT.

If your test works it means something screwed up in your old files.....

stf
Edited by Halonimator on Nov 4, 2016 at 09:06 PM

I have a salimander and I'm not afraid to use it.