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Storm
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Posted: May 23, 2016 09:31 AM    Msg. 1 of 19       
I mean sure, all the Halo's are incredible with their action and only begin to dab into politic in 3 and Reach. Despite how fun Halo 5 is to play with it's new generation of combat systems, I find the story lacking in depth and intrigue. Where the original series had the mystery of the forerunners to keep the players wondering, in the new saga they've basically wiped all of it out. They had a golden opportunity to explore the diplomatic narratives of the games.

For example, after the unsteady truce was formed, and the rogue factions of the covenant still attacked humanity, there could be an interesting story arc focused on how the peaceful covenant plead with the UNSC to not take violent action against factions such as the Storm. In a sense, they'd be the hippy's trying to end the war in Vietnam and bring down the ONI walls to create transparency for the UNSC.

What do you guys think? Would exploring the diplomacy and politics of the Halo universe be intriguing in the game or should that be left purely to film such as in Nightfall?


lolslayer
Joined: Mar 21, 2015

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Posted: May 23, 2016 10:07 AM    Msg. 2 of 19       
"Where the original series had the mystery of the forerunners to keep the players wondering"

Sorry to bring it up, but excactly THIS PART is what I loved most about Halo 2 :)

(Please don't go full metal Halo CE missionary Masters)




And a diplomatics game, I don't know if it's really necessary in the Halo universe, I mean, the only reason for Halo to be involved in this kind of game is the love fans have for Halo (Not that I'm disliking that part)

But I'm not sure what you're talking about, are you talking about that Halo 6 should have this in it or that there should be a whole new Halo game that includes politics in the story?


Storm
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Posted: May 23, 2016 10:23 AM    Msg. 3 of 19       
I'm just saying there should be narrative content that focuses less on the "kill the aliens" side of Halo and more of the politics and how there is a secret group controlling the current events of the series from the shadows.

Or something like that.


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

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Posted: May 23, 2016 10:33 AM    Msg. 4 of 19       
TBH When games start including real world morals such as politics, ethics blah, blah, blah all the crap that makes us so great. IT RUINS THE GAME.

I don't care about some shady govt conspiracy to turn master-chiefs armour pink.

I'm bothered about not getting my ass sucked out of me by the flood, which btw we haven't seen in ages and I am aching for some old school horror halo. Or figuring just figuring out just how the hell they made those hollow circle things.

Nightfall in a nutshell was poorly written out, don't get me wrong the visuals were great but I just felt empty after watching it.

And the horsies triggered me, I'm sorry you can't use technology because flood worms can track you but don't bother walking because walking is lame you need horses to do your work for you in 2552 or whatever.

The only memorable thing about nightfall was the heroine (4gethernaem) because she had some pretty epic grenades. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )

1 personal point I'd like to put across.

Games for me are a form of escapism for some they may not be but for me they are.

When I'm running around with my suppressed R5RGP popping off bad guys faces whilst sliding through a jungle chased by wolves and HiNDS I want to be made to feel like I am the player and not just some blurred entity.

Which is why when games start to relate too closely to the real world it really grinds my gears because no longer am I thinking about survival or completing an objective I'm wondering why the story writers decided to draft in some CIA spec op's veteran to relate his opinions of why the world is the way it is today and how a video game should relate to that story.

Don't get me wrong some aspects of realism are important in VG's but I prefer to keep the problems in our world world and the fantasy dimension suitably separate.


DaLode
Joined: Oct 4, 2014

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Posted: May 23, 2016 11:04 AM    Msg. 5 of 19       
I enjoy a good story. Some political influence in a game's fictional universe could indeed be interesting. All the ONI stuff in the books was some of the most interesting reading material imo.


lolslayer
Joined: Mar 21, 2015

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Posted: May 23, 2016 11:30 AM    Msg. 6 of 19       
I'm not sure if this is just really Obvious or that I'm completely wrong, but isn't #HuntTheTruth excactly the thing you're looking for?


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

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Posted: May 23, 2016 11:22 PM    Msg. 7 of 19       
If halo politics is your thing than kilo -5 trilogy is something you'd enjoy. H2 and H4 both had a political and historical side to their stories, something that was enjoyable in first


BKTiel
Joined: Mar 18, 2014

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Posted: May 24, 2016 12:28 AM    Msg. 8 of 19       
kilo 5 trilogy is the worst excuse for novella I've ever seen. From karen traviss, no less. ;_;


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

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Posted: May 24, 2016 04:33 PM    Msg. 9 of 19       
Quote: --- Original message by: BKTiel
kilo 5 trilogy is the worst excuse for novella I've ever seen. From karen traviss, no less. ;_;


Remove all women from the video game genre!


And make tomb raider a self concious dude!


Storm
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Posted: May 25, 2016 01:11 AM    Msg. 10 of 19       
Quote: --- Original message by: Super Flanker
Quote: --- Original message by: BKTiel
kilo 5 trilogy is the worst excuse for novella I've ever seen. From karen traviss, no less. ;_;


Remove all women from the video game genre!


And make tomb raider a self concious dude!


Dude, just because someone doesn't like a female author doesn't mean they're sexist. That's like saying because one white guy shot up a school, all white people are child murderers.


Pepzee
Joined: Sep 9, 2010

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Posted: May 25, 2016 01:27 AM    Msg. 11 of 19       
I dislike politics in video games. I hear enough of that in real life.

Although perhaps some politics/diplomatic stuff is necessary to develop a story, it doesn't make me like the game any extra.


lolslayer
Joined: Mar 21, 2015

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Posted: May 25, 2016 02:17 AM    Msg. 12 of 19       
Everybody ignores #HuntTheTruth?

I mean, the whole series is about ONI and the UNSC doing edgy stuff


Oskarmandude
Joined: Mar 16, 2013

Bosnia


Posted: May 25, 2016 02:21 AM    Msg. 13 of 19       
Quote: --- Original message by: lolslayer
Everybody ignores #HuntTheTruth?

I mean, the whole series is about ONI and the UNSC doing edgy stuff

Hunt the Truth had nothing to do with Halo 5's story though.


Storm
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Posted: May 25, 2016 03:49 AM    Msg. 14 of 19       
Quote: --- Original message by: lolslayer
Everybody ignores #HuntTheTruth?

I mean, the whole series is about ONI and the UNSC doing edgy stuff


I have seen no content about #HuntTheTruth aside from the advertisements promising a story about secrecy and cover-ups. Halo 5's storyline was another traditional Halo story but it didn't captivate me with it's narrative like the Mass Effect games do. Interactive storyline aside, I enjoy having to balance politics in games. Halo 5 teased that but never really produced it.


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

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Posted: May 25, 2016 01:41 PM    Msg. 15 of 19       
Quote: --- Original message by: Storm
Quote: --- Original message by: Super Flanker
Quote: --- Original message by: BKTiel
kilo 5 trilogy is the worst excuse for novella I've ever seen. From karen traviss, no less. ;_;


Remove all women from the video game genre!


And make tomb raider a self concious dude!


Dude, just because someone doesn't like a female author doesn't mean they're sexist. That's like saying because one white guy shot up a school, all white people are child murderers.


T'was sarcasm friend.


lolslayer
Joined: Mar 21, 2015

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Posted: May 25, 2016 02:17 PM    Msg. 16 of 19       
Quote: --- Original message by: Storm
Quote: --- Original message by: lolslayer
Everybody ignores #HuntTheTruth?

I mean, the whole series is about ONI and the UNSC doing edgy stuff


I have seen no content about #HuntTheTruth aside from the advertisements promising a story about secrecy and cover-ups. Halo 5's storyline was another traditional Halo story but it didn't captivate me with it's narrative like the Mass Effect games do. Interactive storyline aside, I enjoy having to balance politics in games. Halo 5 teased that but never really produced it.


But if I'm understanding it right, you don't know about the series of #HuntTheTruth you can listen on soundcloud? It has a really intriguing story


xnx
Joined: Feb 12, 2013

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Posted: May 25, 2016 02:45 PM    Msg. 17 of 19       
I'm looking for more wonder, fright and adventure in a Halo game rather than space politics. I've got my fix from the star wars prequels for another two decades.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: May 25, 2016 05:04 PM    Msg. 18 of 19       
Quote: --- Original message by: xnx
I'm looking for more wonder, fright and adventure in a Halo game rather than space politics. I've got my fix from the star wars prequels for another two decades.


Lola. The space politics in halo do help make it more "intelligent". It's nice to see that there are deeper things going on in their universe than army guys vs aliens. I appreciate the backstory in the extended lore, but for it to take the full front of a games story... I agree with you.


lolslayer
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Posted: May 25, 2016 05:12 PM    Msg. 19 of 19       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Quote: --- Original message by: xnx
I'm looking for more wonder, fright and adventure in a Halo game rather than space politics. I've got my fix from the star wars prequels for another two decades.


Lola. The space politics in halo do help make it more "intelligent". It's nice to see that there are deeper things going on in their universe than army guys vs aliens. I appreciate the backstory in the extended lore, but for it to take the full front of a games story... I agree with you.


Yeah, maybe that's why only #HuntTheTruth was about politics and not Halo 5 aswell

 

 
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