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DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 03:18 AM
Msg. 36 of 59
ok Edited by DOOM899 on Feb 18, 2016 at 03:19 AM
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Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012
The length of your life depends on my aim.
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 04:38 AM
Msg. 37 of 59
Bump.
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Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009
Discord: Holy Crust#4500
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 06:05 AM
Msg. 38 of 59
Yeah, I fuxed up. I was using the phone at the time. Quote: --- Original message by: JesseQuote: --- Original message by: DOOM899
Thread Title/quote]
I wouldn't play them probably. I doubt you could get the map to look decent enough to even justify using OS, especially .Yelo type.
You'd probably break more than you'd fix simply by adding all the 'cool' features OS supports.
How can you make the maps stand out with OS shaders while not using rips from other games? HCEA rips might be an exception, but what about the BSP? . I would be getting the help from all, of halo ce maps because no one guy could do this, with the help,I get this will be something,new or at lest none done it yet using the same tag set,that came with the old halo 1 maps, as far as I know, and to add ill fix some things as well not just add os also you seem to think I can't do it, with loads of tests, it may take 7or8 weeks just to get the textures looking good well as soon as my mods get done that is Edited by DOOM899 on Feb 18, 2016 at 02:31 AM You sound like Trump making promises but not specifying how you will achieve them. Help from all of the CE maps? What does that even mean? What new things? Fix what things? You're right, I DON'T think you can do it. The problem is, what don't I think you can do? What exactly is your goal? You can't just say you want to "OS a map" (as if that's a verb). Loads of tests for what? What are you testing? You can't 'test' textures. Again, what mods are you talking about? This is why no one believes in this project. Show something resembling a plan, maybe even some concept work or previously-created assets that you will use. Edited by Jesse on Feb 18, 2016 at 06:06 AM
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DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 07:03 AM
Msg. 39 of 59
Quote: --- Original message by: JesseYeah, I fuxed up. I was using the phone at the time. Quote: --- Original message by: JesseQuote: --- Original message by: DOOM899
Thread Title/quote]
I wouldn't play them probably. I doubt you could get the map to look decent enough to even justify using OS, especially .Yelo type.
You'd probably break more than you'd fix simply by adding all the 'cool' features OS supports.
How can you make the maps stand out with OS shaders while not using rips from other games? HCEA rips might be an exception, but what about the BSP? . I would be getting the help from all, of halo ce maps because no one guy could do this, with the help,I get this will be something,new or at lest none done it yet using the same tag set,that came with the old halo 1 maps, as far as I know, and to add ill fix some things as well not just add os also you seem to think I can't do it, with loads of tests, it may take 7or8 weeks just to get the textures looking good well as soon as my mods get done that is Edited by DOOM899 on Feb 18, 2016 at 02:31 AM You sound like Trump making promises but not specifying how you will achieve them. Help from all of the CE maps? What does that even mean? What new things? Fix what things? You're right, I DON'T think you can do it. The problem is, what don't I think you can do? What exactly is your goal? You can't just say you want to "OS a map" (as if that's a verb). Loads of tests for what? What are you testing? You can't 'test' textures. Again, what mods are you talking about? This is why no one believes in this project. Show something resembling a plan, maybe even some concept work or previously-created assets that you will use. Edited by Jesse on Feb 18, 2016 at 06:06 AM sorry I didn't think you would say that, now that's what im going on about you said what I needed to do thanks. im not making promises 2Help from all of the CE maps. I mean help if you guys, are willing to give well I haven't looked at the maps but things like scenery needing animations or better, animations and multipurpose maps, with this idea I have to use them, What are you testing? You can't 'test' textures. well yes I have to this is os textures, they need to look good, ingame I have to test what the textures will look ilke because of light and dark areas, Show something resembling a plan.hmm you have a point, sorry about that ok my 1st idea was just to add OS textures, but now that I'VE had some time to think, maybe fix some of the textures, ep multipurpose maps need newer versions,sniper rifle zoom has a fix seen it some where,and maybe update the hud for the biped, we do have HCEA, maybe we could rip the hud for all the guns and biped., what mods are you talking about?. ill show one of them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAUrJhpxF_I ones im done with this mod ill use the tag set to update one halo 3 map, then im going to make a map to start my work on this big overdone plan to update\mod the old halo one maps using there tag set with hopeful new things to add the map I make is just to test things on thank you for being honest with me ,sorry if I sound like a dumb ass Edited by DOOM899 on Feb 18, 2016 at 07:06 AM
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 04:06 PM
Msg. 40 of 59
Quote: --- Original message by: DOOM899Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 I'd not play them. why? quote not worth the hassle of turning off hac2 just to play 1 map, then having to restart the game etc. complete waste of time. .yelo maps are for single player. it would be more then one map,and they can be MP as well, like I did say before, there's are no good os mp maps out there yet. 1no because support for OS is extremely limited, because just about no info on it that's why,and no good maps 2 If there's going to be bot accusations, I expect there to be proof. Sightjacking is proof. If I expect somebody to be botting, SJ them, see that they check out, then I continue to play the game normally. It is exploitable, yes, but it can be turned off in the server if the server owner desires. yeah but think of it this, way most users I have seen users use it,to know where you even if your not botting, it dose start to make you mad, that you can't hide, ya know. 3rd as I put in the 2nd page however if none willing to do it, then none well give a damn. ones I get my two mods done,I will do this just to show, you they are better with os,. maybe hac 2 could run with os some day maybe keep in mind that my mods come 1st, so at lest I get my skills back OS has nothing of substance to offer other than visuals for multiplayer, and lets face it, no one plays this game because it looks good. The killer feature for OS in MP is unifying versions and auto map downloads, both which HAC2 does play a multitude of other services. Feature wise OS adds what to your MP experience? Boarding? The only group that is capable of that is CMT and to do MP related boarding we have like maybe 30% of the animations and content done. Hac2 is simply a better add on that does nearly everything OS can for MP and more.
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NeX
Joined: Apr 11, 2013
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 04:22 PM
Msg. 41 of 59
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
OS has nothing of substance to offer other than visuals for multiplayer, and lets face it, no one plays this game because it looks good. Obviously not, but it would still be great if it could. I still think if OS .map files were released that had a lot of eye candy (even keeping the classic gameplay), it'd be more of a draw than an ugly variant. I wouldn't sacrifice Hac2 for OS visuals, but again - why the @#$& do we need to???Well, because Korn/FS doesn't care (only preventing people from using OS, kinda stupid really...) and BT is probably burned out at this point. Edited by NeX on Feb 18, 2016 at 04:23 PM
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DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 05:26 PM
Msg. 42 of 59
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: DOOM899Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 I'd not play them. why? quotecut OS has nothing of substance to offer other than visuals for multiplayer, and lets face it, no one plays this game because it looks good. The killer feature for OS in MP is unifying versions and auto map downloads, both which HAC2 does play a multitude of other services. Feature wise OS adds what to your MP experience? Boarding? The only group that is capable of that is CMT and to do MP related boarding we have like maybe 30% of the animations and content done. Hac2 is simply a better add on that does nearly everything OS can for MP and more. how long have you done spv3? things to add if this was, a ODST map or halo 3 we have the visor, and yes it can work in MP. 2nd if os last update will fix the 4 grenades, then we'd have that, Boarding you know who long players have been asking for that? a long damn time why is Hac2 better just because of features give me a list of said features that make it 100 times better the OS V4, but even so maybe hac 2 and os could work together,if this is there last update why not? NeX Obviously not, but it would still be great if it could. I still think if OS .map files were released that had a lot of eye candy (even keeping the classic gameplay), it'd be more of a draw than an ugly variant. that's the idea ,keeping the classic gameplay, Edited by DOOM899 on Feb 18, 2016 at 05:29 PM
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 08:06 PM
Msg. 43 of 59
Yeah, and VISR is a terrible idea for multiplayer, 2 new grenade types can work, and boarding doesn't really work well in H1 anyway.
That's really as much as I could get out of your rambling.
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DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013
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Posted: Feb 19, 2016 06:14 AM
Msg. 44 of 59
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 Yeah, and VISR is a terrible idea for multiplayer, 2 new grenade types can work, and boarding doesn't really work well in H1 anyway.
That's really as much as I could get out of your rambling. the VISR is a good idea, if you're going for halo 3 odst gameplay, and a dark as hell map. new grenade types don't work just yet for mp, im hopeful os team fix this. boarding would work for halo 2 3 gameplay et you get the idea, I mean if would be cool, as hell to see it. I was not rambling , you need to take a bit more time to read it ok ;} Edited by DOOM899 on Feb 19, 2016 at 06:15 AM
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DaLode
Joined: Oct 4, 2014
Ho ho hooooly doodle!
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Posted: Feb 19, 2016 06:20 AM
Msg. 45 of 59
@DOOM, you can facilitate that by constructing more clear posts. They are a complete eye-soar to read.
Start with capitalising each sentence. Once you have that down, try using logically structured paragraphs.
Typo-s are okay if Engrish isn't your mother tongue, but violating basic online communication principles is something you can adress.
Beers, Belgium
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DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013
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Posted: Feb 19, 2016 06:45 AM
Msg. 46 of 59
Quote: --- Original message by: DaLode @DOOM, you can facilitate that by constructing more clear posts. They are a complete eye-soar to read.
Start with capitalising each sentence. Once you have that down, try using logically structured paragraphs.
Typo-s are okay if Engrish isn't your mother tongue, but violating basic online communication principles is something you can adress.
Beers, Belgium there not a eye-soar to read, I fixed the wall of text to help of that part
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
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Posted: Feb 19, 2016 05:59 PM
Msg. 47 of 59
Thats the thing, OS DOESN'T offer much if anything for MP mechanics. If grenades don't work, the only thing you are getting is boarding (which due to CE's controls does not work well) and VISR... which is very basic and makes every target on the map visible if in your line of sight. Almost nothing works in an online environment. Quote: --- Original message by: DOOM899Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 Yeah, and VISR is a terrible idea for multiplayer, 2 new grenade types can work, and boarding doesn't really work well in H1 anyway.
That's really as much as I could get out of your rambling. the VISR is a good idea, if you're going for halo 3 odst gameplay, and a dark as hell map. VISR=/= ODST gameplay, and it will make your targets visible, regardless of where they are on your screenspace. It destroys stealth elements and can not be successfully toggled on or tracked by the server.new grenade types don't work just yet for mp, im hopeful os team fix this. There is no OS teamboarding would work for halo 2 3 gameplay et you get the idea, I mean if would be cool, as hell to see it. Boarding doesn't really work well in H1, due to the fact that you have to time your key press exactly when the vehicle is near you, in a very small radius. Spamming the button when a vehicle is nearing you can be problematic for the game, never mind the terrible latency in the multiplayer. I was not rambling , you need to take a bit more time to read it ok ;} Edited by DOOM899 on Feb 19, 2016 at 06:15 AM Edited by Masters1337 on Feb 19, 2016 at 06:03 PM
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DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013
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Posted: Feb 19, 2016 07:23 PM
Msg. 48 of 59
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
cut Edited by DOOM899 on Feb 19, 2016 at 06:15 AM Edited by Masters1337 on Feb 19, 2016 at 06:03 PM I guess the thing would be, to get whoever is doing the last update for OS, to fix the 4 grenades at lest we'd have something.
vehicle boarding would work if you use it for two vehicle like the ghost or the tank, latency yeah but it could would work.
there no os team? so no last update??
thanks for taking the time to read my posts ;) Edited by DOOM899 on Feb 19, 2016 at 07:24 PM
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EtchyaSketch
Joined: Apr 11, 2014
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Posted: Feb 19, 2016 09:29 PM
Msg. 49 of 59
There is no OS team. there is no future updates for OS.
Vehicle boarding wont work well in MP because it barely works well in SP. You have to be so close and so precise with your key press timing that most of the time you'll end up dead.
I think at the core you fail to realize that, just because a feature exists, doesn't mean that it makes the gameplay experience more fun.
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DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013
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Posted: Feb 20, 2016 01:00 AM
Msg. 50 of 59
Quote: --- Original message by: EtchyaSketch There is no OS team. there is no future updates for OS.
Vehicle boarding wont work well in MP because it barely works well in SP. You have to be so close and so precise with your key press timing that most of the time you'll end up dead.
I think at the core you fail to realize that, just because a feature exists, doesn't mean that it makes the gameplay experience more fun. yeah no think of b30_evolved that had A load of features, or cmt spv3 maps features are what can makes maps more or just as fun. and some normal made maps can be more fun based on the maps or map, gameplay wise, well that's up to the modded or map maker. but I think it would be cool to have one or two new features for mp. Edited by DOOM899 on Feb 20, 2016 at 01:02 AM
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MrCool
Joined: Aug 17, 2012
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Posted: Feb 20, 2016 01:14 PM
Msg. 51 of 59
When you wake up on halomaps after two years
Edit: And hey, is there nobody that can work on OS? Edited by MrCool on Feb 20, 2016 at 01:21 PM
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Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012
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Posted: Feb 20, 2016 03:25 PM
Msg. 52 of 59
Quote: --- Original message by: MrCool
When you wake up on halomaps after two years
Edit: And hey, is there nobody that can work on OS? Edited by MrCool on Feb 20, 2016 at 01:21 PM Nobody willing to spend the time and bear with the headaches.
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DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013
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Posted: Feb 20, 2016 06:26 PM
Msg. 53 of 59
who ever is willing to work on OS, could do a petition so he\she would get 10$ a month based, on how much of you lot are willing to sign up, so at lest he\she would get paid,
just a idea Edited by DOOM899 on Feb 20, 2016 at 06:27 PM
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DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013
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Posted: Feb 20, 2016 07:23 PM
Msg. 54 of 59
Quote: --- Original message by: t3h m00kzQuote: --- Original message by: DOOM899
who ever is willing to work on OS, could do a petition so he\she would get 10$ a month based, on how much of you lot are willing to sign up, so at lest he\she would get paid,
just a idea Edited by DOOM899 on Feb 20, 2016 at 06:27 PM I have no idea what you just said a petition means incentive to do IT, sorry I have had to help a mate wean I was typing that . if whoever is willing to work on OS, could do a petition so he\she would get 10$ a month based, on how much of you lot are willing to sign up, so at lest he\she would get paid, and there is the incentive to take a lot of time to do it, 10$ a month or 1$ it doesn't mean much but could help in the Development OF os,, and could even get a team started so we'd have more updates more fix's. it's just a idea
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ThatGuyWhoLikesCats
Joined: Aug 3, 2015
"If God is love, then you can call me Cupid"
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Posted: Feb 20, 2016 08:07 PM
Msg. 55 of 59
Quote: --- Original message by: AlissArcanaQuote: --- Original message by: DOOM899 who ever is willing to work on OS, could do a petition so he\she would get 10$ a month based, on how much of you lot are willing to sign up, so at lest he\she would get paid. Just a idea. Edited by DOOM899 on Feb 20, 2016 at 06:27 PM If that's going to be the future of Halo Custom Edition, then I want no part of it. 
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MrCool
Joined: Aug 17, 2012
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Posted: Feb 20, 2016 11:56 PM
Msg. 56 of 59
How I wake up in the morning, and yeah haha I don't see myself working on it either
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Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012
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Posted: Feb 21, 2016 09:54 AM
Msg. 57 of 59
Quote: --- Original message by: MrCool How I wake up in the morning, and yeah haha I don't see myself working on it either Eh. Whats the worst that can happen?
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MrCool
Joined: Aug 17, 2012
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Posted: Feb 21, 2016 10:49 AM
Msg. 58 of 59
Quote: --- Original message by: Super FlankerQuote: --- Original message by: MrCool How I wake up in the morning, and yeah haha I don't see myself working on it either Eh. Whats the worst that can happen? I try not to ask that question haha
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DOOM899
Joined: Jul 23, 2013
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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 04:43 AM
Msg. 59 of 59
ill see about getting back to work on ce in two weeks
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