People should learn or don't mod a game...

That's pretty harsh, a lot of Gmod modders rip content and they have been pretty successful modders. I do agree that everyone should at least learn how to model something, I also don't mind people like soi who actually modify the content.

That's just silly.

"That thing you enjoy doing? Yeah, don't do it. Why? Because you're not doing a thing that I like."

I can see a lot of imitations of it coming out on the form of single player maps since the objective should be simple enough for any novice scripter to make.

It's not 2011 anymore.

Then I'm out, because I am more a coder than a modeler ._.

Obviously coding is a different subject. I'm just saying, you can rip all this content, but if you learn you could remake the BSP as well and make maps that match the quality. There's hundreds of mods or even new maps out which has all these professionally finished assets, but the map itself doesn't match the quality level which the assets have, and it looks bad.

Not everyone understands what it is like to have little free time and operate in the real world, my fellow member.
Edited by Megatron on Jun 26, 2015 at 07:38 PM

Split screen is removed in its entirety now, meaning I can't even play H5 with my brother, that just leaves me one less reason to want Halo 5 and just proves how weak the Xbox one is.

#NintendoNXhype

343/MS will probably add split-screen as paid DLC on day 1.
Edited by DaLode on Jul 1, 2015 at 04:54 PM

No silly they'll charge 16.99 for the first screen and additional payment of $105 will be needed for the second. (all of which can be payed in instalments yay!)

Now this is something I can agree with, not that it's any surprise at all to be honest. The Xbox One's notoriety started as early as it was revealed, and I recall one article where a Microsoft employee told someone to buy an Xbox 360 due to the Xbox One not providing a certain desired feature or something of the sort.

Personally, I think Halo 5 looked promising and it seems like a fun game so far, although the Xbox One is definitely going to keep it from reaching it's full potential, and I'm not just speaking about graphics or general gameplay.

There are definitely people out there who would want this game, but won't purchase an Xbox One regardless of what Microsoft offers in the future, and that will hamper sales to some extent.

Truth be told, split screen is such a rarely used feature... The last time I used it was on my modded Xbox because I couldn't go on Xbox with it, and that was 2012. It's sad to see it go but I rather see the game be the best it can be without a minor feature being included. Because make no mistake, it is a minor feature these days.

It's a big deal for someone like me. Going off the philosophy that people just play online only is wrong. And how do you explain the lack of LAN too?

Split-screen will always be a must-have.
Some people don't play online (much), and prefer smaller-scale get-togethers with their friends, brothers, etc.

We only played Halo 4 in split-screen co-op, for example.

That aside, it is complete nonsense to even try to defend the removal of such a feature. Features that have been present on some of the oldest game consoles to ever see daylight.

Heck, even playing Halo 4 with 4 player splitscreen was kinda fun.

And I haven't used xbox live in the past 5 or 6 years, I guess splitscreening with my girlfriend / friends / family is just fun, for campaign. Let's say my GF isn't very "Hardcore" gaming-wise so, yeah, gruntpocalypse firefights and single player missions with split screen is as far as she goes :P

Yeah, I'm pretty bummed out that there's not going to be split-screen honestly. I don't really enjoy online multiplayer at all. 99% of the time it's full of strangers behaving like douches, abusing VOIP, and generally just detracting from the overall feel of a game. If I'm ever playing with other people, I'm mostly either doing co-op games with my girlfriend, or with a group of friends and a few drinks for good measure.

It's a depressing trend. When it turned out Destiny had no local co-op despite being an entirely co-op centric game, any interest I had in it dwindled fast. The prospect of not just having to buy a PS4, but us having to buy a PS4 each, two copies of the game, and an additional monitor just so my GF and I could co-op it. That's just nuts.

It's no wonder gamers have such a bad rep of being a bunch of unsociable shut-ins, when the only way you can play with others nowadays is while tethered to your own console / internet connection.

brb gonna chuck an N64 at the pesky kids congregating on my lawn

I totally agree with all of this.

In my case, I couldn't even pay for Xbox live during the 360's run, and local split-screen matches with people were all that I got as far as multiplayer went for console entries in the Halo series during those years.

Speaking of which, even if I did manage to get the money needed for Xbox Live, I couldn't have connected my Xbox to the internet, as I had one of the "phat" units that lacked built-in wifi adapters and there wasn't enough room to connect it with an ethernet cable. Even if I had an Xbox 360 slim (or something similar), the router I was using at the time was a bit too weak for numerous connections.

Of course, I'm not the only one who couldn't meet the bull**** demands that companies like Microsoft make to access online services or were in a position where you can't connect your console to the internet, which means that numerous people are going to be left out of multiplayer if it's online-only.

In short, people who can't endlessly throw money at gaming are going to be inconvenienced, big time.



I agree and disagree with this, though your point is undeniable good, and it furthers the notion that companies involved in gaming these days just care for the money, and don't care about the customers.

However, what's incorrect (not talking about new games, of course), is that the idea that you can't play with others without internet.

If you have older generations of consoles, you can play plenty of games that support offline multiplayer.

Oh yeah, without a doubt. It's not like the old games have gone away or anything :P I suppose I'm more just lamenting that this is a dying trend in newer games. I still have my OG Xbox and copies of Timesplitters and Halo for all that good stuff :)

I still play halo 1 on the original Xbox with my brother and dad.

And it certainly is something to lament, since you have more positive social interaction playing with people offline in split-screen, rather than you would online (unless it's co-op with your friends who you have pleasant times with).

Another thing game developers could do (if they want to advance games further) is actually find ways to enhance split screen play, rather than just basically drop it.




You also have the benefit of getting a more nostalgic experience by keeping the original Xbox, since using a newer console with backward compatibility is...well, it's just not the same. :P

Hopefully yours won't get the red ring of death (yes, that did unfortunately occur with the original Xbox too, it just wasn't as common due to not having that critical design flaw that its successor suffered from).

Oh yes! Timesplitters 2, Future Perfect and the Halo games. Best split-screen moments ever! I even dare say the bots of Timesplitters put it just over Halo :-)

Yep, no matter how much the Xbox One let's us all down, and whether or not Halo 5 turns out to be a masterpiece, we'll always have the good classic games. :

Don't forget split-screen burnout!
Playing w/ brothers was the bomb!

So I played that warzone mode at SD comic con. Storm rifle was not a loadout option, instead you would have to use the points to equipped it. That's terrible. It might have actually been a pretty descent weapon but I died instantly with it. DMR, BR, SMG is what I remember being the rifles for loadouts. Plasma pistol is one of the guns that is purchasable, not spawnable with. The suppressor and bolt pistol are homing projectiles like a needler without super combine. Suppressor was a lot deadlier that way. Aiming down sight definitely make all the button layouts feel odd. The Promethean air vehicle was a one time buy for each player so I'll use it wisely next time. The Promethean air vehicle was really good except for the projectile travel time on the primary auto fire. The secondary was just the mantis's rockets but orange. Aim down sight is odd still. Promethean soldiers are more durable then I expected. Boss AI were cool. Plasma caster functions exactly like you would expect it too so it was average I guess. I got betrayed while using the spartan laser. Voice chat on the headsets they gave use was disabled so that also stunk. Aim down sight was odd like in the beta. I felt like the game's addition of new abilities made the game more complicated and frustrating then it needed to be for a big team battle. I felt like I was gonna twist my finger trying to figure out if I should melee, aim down sight, thrust pack, jump, throw a grenade. It was just a jumbled mess of tools that wasn't needed in a 24 player game that mostly involved vehicles. Warthog turret overheats so that was god awful, especially since the Promethean air vehicle can aim more downward then the warthog could pointing upward thus making the warthog not very anti-air. There was no tank on that map. Not a single grunt or jackal, just hunters and elites for covi AI. Did I mention that aiming down sight is still odd for a halo game?
There is probably a lor more I could talk about. I'm heading back tomorrow (like 14 hours) so if you guys want me to try anything go ahead and tell me now.

Record some gameplay with a secret camera.

Is Halo 5 copying certain FPS trends to appeal to a "broader audience"?

I'm surprised they haven't added dual-wield swords yet. It's what I imagine every 14 year old Halo fan wants in their game.

Well, to be fair, thats what all games try to do. Hit the trend that goes around.

Yeah copy what someone else did and make it marginally better and a tid bit more expensive.

Omg, thank you for making this point.