All I see is two people getting offended that their favorite religion I mean video game is being trivialized.

This is gonna get messy.

I can't believe Starbucks is removing Halo from their holiday coffee cups. #AttackOnHaloanity

FTFY

Well put, lol.
Edited by Goldy De Wise on Nov 10, 2015 at 07:46 PM

This exactly.


If Halo Online develops into something we can make stuff with, I'd totally move over. I'm hoping that the El Dorito devs create tools we can all use extensively and enjoy. I personally think that the devs should stop acting like H:O is something worth moving to because it isn't yet. I most definitely hope that they succeed because if they do, we all get to benefit. No one loses with the team working on H:O. If they fail, well we never really had much hope for Halo in PC anyway. If they succeed, they would have given us all a gift. We should either support them or ignore them but trying to drag them down just shows we are jealous of others succeeding.

I'm disappointed to see the attitude of many of the posters on here. You should not be nit-picking over trivial parts of these replies or trying to antagonize no1dead.



Internet superiority at it's finest.



Straight up demeaning no1dead here. This is in no way a response to his argument.


Eldewrito is a passion project made by people who really want to see a custom Halo game for PC running on a fully functional Halo 3 engine. The engine is not duct taped together or whatever someone else said earlier in the thread, the engine is from after H3:ODST and is likely from MCC considering things like its HD resolution capabilities. It has some functions such as the UI and equipment disabled. Obviously the UI has been reactivated and in the Recode project the equipment is making progress, and dual wielding works besides a small audio bug at the moment. This is really Halo 3, just with some of Sabre's minor edits to make it a F2P game.

The modding capabilities right now are like what you see in Halo 3 .map mods. I would say it even goes beyond that because we have the capabilities to import custom models and textures. The Halo 3 biped and armors have been imported and fitted to Sabre's modified armor system, and things like retextured maps and vehicles are a breeze. Tags can be duplicated to allow for entirely custom vehicles and weapons that don't modify the default ones in any way. All this progress has been made possible by people like no1dead and great modders in the community such as dany, who made the Halo 3 armors and weapons mod.

I've been playing around with what is possible with the current modding tools, and even someone like me who's fairly new to modding Halo can port over the Halo 3 Longsword's model, base map, and bump map. I turned it into an entirely seperate vehicle that works along side a pelican and phantom. The weapons and particle effects on it are easily done, I just haven't put in the time to do it yet.

Tag porting from Halo 3 is also possible right now, allowing for some pretty cool things.

Here's some pictures that give you a good idea of where modding is at right now:

https://i.imgur.com/MKfIEQe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WOfwvFm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VeCqRbx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/73wI4cA.png
https://i.imgur.com/hyzgIdH.jpg

Credit goes to the respective mod authors.

I do thanks. Good to know that you don't have the logic to even program. Says something about both of us doesn't it.

And obviously the entire community just comes right in with the insults because insulting a project is always fine.

It also further proved my point that the majority of people here are idiots.



Don't worry they're lucky that Dennis is such a lenient Admin or these people would have been banned long ago for their attitude towards others, and other things.

I'd like to add see how adding another vehicle like the longsword is possible just like that. You can do that with whatever it's just a bit more work then the CE people are used too. You'd need to make the model then import it into the game after doing that you create a vech tag and use that to create your new vehicle.

I'll make sure to stop posting on this forum and keep banning most of the idiots who come from here to the subreddit or forums.



Ha.
Edited by no1dead on Nov 10, 2015 at 10:54 PM

^^ Had you bothered to read any developer blogs or official news updates, you would know that it has been clearly stated multiple times that the HO engine is a derivative Halo 3 Engine and NOT an after Halo 3 or ODST engine. The engine variant of Blam! being used is just a heavily modified version of Halo 3's. Like I said, it's been clearly stated multiple times by the developers and 343i themselves.

By the way, explain how much more complicated it is than editing a tag's enum or float values to alter them to perform differently than stock vehicles? As if cloning chunks or instances is a concept far beyond CE modders? Please...we've all done that like...15 years ago.

Moving on....quit toughting the simple model injection. Do all these lovely assets you keep video showcasing have their own compiled physics/collision/animations/sounds? No, they don't. They are simple injections that still use existing animations and resources.

Do all these pretty Forge items have working custom compiled collision, physics or animations? No again they don't. You can't even seem to get proper shader assignments done in the render model properties.

You can keep talking about how HO has all these awesome things going for it, but in the end it's no different than the first 3 years of Halo 2 modding, where simply bitmap, render_model and swaps were used in attempts to build new content. The basic truth of HO is, you will never write your own command compiler or even a UI based compiler to compile or convert raw content created in 3DsMax or Maya or Blender, and get into a workable Guerilla/Sapien based environment.

I keep hearing all this hype and talk about how "We will make tools" and all that blah blah blah stuff...but how? If it were so easy to make tools to compile tags from raw source for anything beyond CE, I would think that I would have had a nice way to create animations, physics models, collision models, bipeds, etc. for Halo 2 Vista by now. Hell we would even have seen complete map creation for Halo 3 on the Xbox platform. Face it, as far as real modding goes, Xbox 360 titles are leagues ahead of anything you can do on HO for the foreseeable future.

On a side note, it took Kornman about 3 years to get a simple collision/physics compiling add-on for H2Tool working properly. And no please don't tell me that Korn is helping El Decrapo, cause he is not. I have regular convo's with him and he is simply lending a hand in certain areas and NOT directly programming anything for you. He's basically just pointing you guys in the right direction for certain things.
Edited by Twinreaper on Nov 10, 2015 at 11:02 PM
Edited by Twinreaper on Nov 10, 2015 at 11:04 PM

I'm not a fan of your attitude. You claim to know all of Eldewrito's limitations but from the nonsense you're spouting, it sounds as though you've never even taken the time to casually browse the subreddit.

Here's a clip of a forge piece with fairly basic collisions from several months ago.

https://d.maxfile.ro/rbihkemwmd.mp4

Animations and collisions can be easily ported from Halo 3 right now, but doing it by hand is a pain in the ass. Because of this, most people are waiting for a tool to be made in order to automate the process. However, because the userbase is fairly small, these things can take quite a bit of time. Is there anything else you would like to spread ignorance about?

There is a clear correlation between being a very rational human being, and being able to hold a strong argument. Now, what do good programmers do? Problem solving. Constant problem solving.

I think what you meant to say is: "programmer != good debater". Because oh my, there are tons of mediocre, and outright bad programmers. Combine that with the Dunning-Kruger effect and, well, you get the point.

Anyways, the important bit here for the ED devs should be to not try to talk the talk, but rather, walk the walk. There is no point in holding petty arguments about something counter-productive.

Excuse me whilst I go die of sheer incredulity at that statement. Can you really? Hmmmmm...

Lets see if you'll actually bother to give a proper response this time instead of "I don't like you, let me tell you why"

Oh my freaking god. People are still having this exact same argument... Yes, ED is very limited and there are almost no tools to mod it yet. And yes, Halo CE has a lot of tools and tutorials (which is why even latinos can make maps). So what is the point of talking about that over and over again? I personally like ED and I really wish there were more servers on it (usually there are around 3). Sure it doesn't have many mods and it has performance issues and hackers but it's still fun to play. They already have things like map voting, Halo 3 weapon and armor pack and forged maps for infection gametype which are really fun.

Halo CE and ED are different things and you people really should stop comparing them, there is no point in doing that. If you don't like ED, do you really have to keep pointing out its issues and what it still lacks?

Look at them.











































Look at them and laugh!

El Dorito stands here: (this is from what I've seen)

-Halo 3 Xbox tags can be ported in full (yes, working collision, animations, regions and shaders)
-Most of Halo 3's original functions have been restored.
-Bringing over newer maps from newer halo online builds has been done.
-porting over Halo 3 maps is right around the corner.

Honestly, worst case scenario seems like we may have Halo 3 MP in full make it to our PC's.

It seems the Dorito team is hesitant to remove Halo: online features and assets for whatever reason, and I believe they plan on making the Halo 3 style a secondary option for users to choose if they want to use or not.

Ftfy

I mean laugh at the people arguing. Then again, you probably mean to learn from them and what not to do. Or did you think my comment was directed towards the doritos dev team?

In any case, I applaud the team for their work, though the loud people (devs or not) should probably stop looking for fights on these forums.

I'd honestly prefer to have a working pseudo-Halo 3 than take the longer road towards full on mods.
After Halo 3: MP is done, most developers will have experience with the modding and truly be able to give us the tools we want (or should I say, expect?)

No I meant learn as in remember to stock up on water as solo butterkist can give you quite the dry throat.

With that out of the way, if you could show proof of those animation things, that'd be appreciated. Past that we can stop the argument and move to discussion, because while I'm not too interested in modding HO, I am interested in seeing the progress and the tools that ED is working on/with.

There was a post on the subreddit where a user had ported over much of the Elephant from Sandtrap. It was missing textures still and didn't drive properly, however the turret was mounted on the top of it correctly and the player driving it assumed the proper animation on the driver's seat. The post is removed now, but as far as tag porting goes, as long as the tag is straight up numbers and tagblocks, it can be copied over to H:O.

So now we have a full confirmation on whoever was impersonating me. Good to know

You're a cun t

Stay on topic, no name calling and watch your language.

So you were behind this silly act?

That's why the reason I stick with facepunch site.
Edited by sshers4 on Nov 28, 2015 at 04:08 PM

Hey look the guy's talking to himself

You have too much dew in your system.


Kindly take a piss then go to bed.

I SWEAR TO GOD I WAS GOING TO WRITE IT

Howcome whenever someone from CMT breaks the rules, they get a free pass?

I would guess that "overall well-behaved regulars" (not just CMT guys) have built up enough credit to have a very minor incident overseen. Especially if it doesn't lead to a big deal drama.

I didnt do nothin wrong.