How do you guys make these pictures and gifs so fast? It just baffles me to no end.

Being in a small community spammed by them will do that to you.

I won't be joining in the spam fest, thats for sure. Even if i wanted to, it would take me a long time to make something good (poor artistic skills on my end, possibly due to my Asperger's Syndrome).

eh, what people do here isn't at all that hard.

lol sue dennish? dis guy iz wristwatch

Someone making fun of my vid?

IM GOING TO SUE
Edited by TheChunkierBean on Jun 11, 2014 at 08:27 PM

Subpoena Dennis? Jesus christ dude, I'm so porting everything over now. Thanks for that motivation.

I'll get right on it.

e: also sins is totally a better game than Halo, even if only cuz it's newer. Just sayin'.
Edited by BKTiel on Jun 11, 2014 at 09:10 PM

Make à bloodgulch mod with ships as weapons firing ships as projectiles. Also cover the walls with more ships. Oh and make the projectiles explode in ships garbage tags. Replace all scenery with little ships too. And change the sky to theirs.
If you don't i will. Except if the guy changes his mind.

And send everything to SBB.
Not to mention halo sucks.
Edited by bourrin33 on Jun 11, 2014 at 09:20 PM

I want to clarify some things and if I inconvenienced anyone and I apologize for everything I did that tag because the truth gladly and did not want to steal anything from anyone when you said that if I knew that was the mod soaser said yes and at no time said that I did the only thing I said was that I did to post it on halo because havia never seen that ship and seeing I disowned him anything until I asked permission if I could please stop putting the model but you me I replied saying no and it would demand a lot of things in no time I said something wrong and nor disowned

I want to clarify some things. Firstly, if I inconvenienced anyone, I apologize. You asked me if I knew it was from the Sins mod, but the only thing I said was that I ported the ship because I had never seen it anywhere before. It was not my intent to steal from anything from anybody. When you then asked me to remove the link I refused on the basis it would 'demand a lot of things in no time'. I know I may have said something to incur your ire, but again, I didn't mean to steal any credit so you'll forgive me if the issue seems moot.

Thank you

Don't worry about it. We (at least the majority of us in Halomaps) understand. This doesn't necessarily mean we condone what you did, but we get where you're coming from.

Besides, SOS brought up an interesting point... you could say ripping is technically condoned by Microsoft, depending on how you interpret this:



Don't get me wrong; ripping is still stealing (not physically, but in terms of the effort people put into this), and it's still a disrespectful thing to do... plus, a lot of people tend to overdo it and rip just for the heck of it, without caring about the quality of their work.
(that's why "Latino" mappers have a really bad reputation here)

But with that said, it's not a crime. There're a lot of good uses for it; just know what they are, and watch your steps. (...please tell the rest of your clan buddies this too... *cough*)

Plus, if you're going to threaten to issue subpoenas against people, you need to do it in a classier way and with a hard, solid case. Without wasting money or breath. *cough cough GAG*

Tiel: thanks for re-translating his post :P

Edited by Unikraken on Mar 17, 2016 at 03:17 PM

What are these previous rulings? I could not find anything like this at all.



Well yeah, given they are two lines of text written in the Microsoft Game Content Usage Rules which would be a major factor if this was brought into a court case. You can't cherry pick what is and what isn't law in the MS Game Content Usage Rules. It all applies.



Glad you generalize us as all being 12 year jobless people who can't hire a lawyer.

Lol how ripping is considered a "sickness."

Shush, your sick too, and you got the h4 sickness.

I like this thread because it's not a circlejerk. Despite the fact that on one side you have Halomaps trying to age-old method of dogpiling what's perceived as a problem until it goes away, Unikraken has proven equally resistant. Very, very interesting.

Though in all honesty I really doubt you have any legal recourse here. You have absolutely no licensing as far as I can tell.

e: For the record, I'm kind of a fan. The catalyst of this whole thing just strikes me as an overreaction.
Edited by BKTiel on Jun 11, 2014 at 11:57 PM

^THIS^ the Smart one has spoken

Edited by Unikraken on Mar 17, 2016 at 03:17 PM

Is it really stolen if you haven't been deprived of anything? Please introduce me to your rationale there; that's really the only point of confusion for me.

Also check your PM box, if you would.

Edited by Unikraken on Mar 17, 2016 at 03:17 PM

Just sue us all. Sue everyone on the Halomap forums. You keep bringing it up so just do it then.

You come here and you just start threatening legal action on little basis. We understand you want to be credited, but as far as that goes, you should let it go from there. If you're releasing something on the internet for free that isn't even under your own IP, what is the point? The fact is, you created fan-fiction for Halo-because of this you agree to the MS Game Content Usage Rules. The next fact is someone put it in Custom Edition, meaning that the EULA then applies.

You keep dodging everything and now you're going to act all like "I had so much respect for CE before now." You came here and overreacted. Just accept it, say you wanted credit and "please don't use our assets until they're released". No reason to threat legal actions. It makes you just look like an egocentric douche. I'm sure we might have even rallied behind you if you said that the assets were yours and you just wanted them down or credit. But you didn't do that. You started off nice but still rude. Then you just lost all cool and thats when we turned against you.
Edited by MatthewDratt on Jun 12, 2014 at 12:26 AM

Dnt soo me doh i dun haz sins of unikrako

You don't realize that this rarely happens, especially in this community.
Credit? Respect? You'll actually have a laugh leave my lips.
Everyone (well... nearly) has had something leaked in their time here. And you know what? It's precisely the reason why most everyone here knows your emotions.
The people here who have done anything to better this community and what Halo Custom Edition stands for went through the exact phase you're going through right now. And yes, including myself, we all got over it. You persistently ask why. It's because nothing we ever did changed it. But you know what? It didn't matter. People happily using the creations you've made made a difference, even if no one knew you were the hard worker behind the masterpiece.
You seem to think that we just accept 'stolen' work wholeheartedly. You come here with little to no knowledge of how things are run in this fragment of society and the way you bashed people over the head is, quite frankly, rude.
I'll leave the Custom Edition EULA to the others, they're more familiar with it than I am, I'm sure.

What this all comes down to is your well... complaints... of how some kid didn't use his manners. And it's pitiful.
Edited by Spartan314 on Jun 12, 2014 at 12:52 AM

Exactly what Spartan said, you'll get pissed that your stuff got leaked, and then eventually you stop caring and then go on. Really, none of us have a reason to care. personally, i would actually be happy that someone likes my teams tags and uses them at this point.

Cause it's 1am and I'm bored, here it goes.

An Analysis of the Thread: all halo scenary ships. What went wrong?



A user posts pictures of a UNSC ship saying that he plans to put the Halo ships into CE as scenery. No credit is given to the original authors.



Users praise the original poster for the model work, but given the grammar and signup date for the original poster, most people believe the model was pulled from somewhere. None care all too much as that is somewhat common here.



User ElijahB1 finds where the model came from.



A user from the mod Sins of the Prophets finds out and reports to the thread. The user asks for it to be removed. Here is where it starts going wrong for him though. He asks for the user to "remove it from your little map thing." As snarky as it is, it starts to show the user as immature.



People then praise the user from the Sins of the Prophets mod for the model. Original post still remains unedited- though the original poster has not added anything to the conversation yet and may have remained offline.



The user from the Sins of the Prophets (Unikraken) mod is welcomed. Despite this, Unikraken remains snarky. The original poster has yet to add anything and seems to still be offline.



The user claims the Sins of the Prophets "isn't a Halo CE whatever." I believe this was clearly obvious to everyone as the model was ported to Halo CE. The user then feels to insult the entire Halo CE user base by saying "whatever it is you kids are doing here." I think it was pretty clear that we are modding a game. So the "whatever it is" part should be obvious to anyone. He also felt to call us all kids, like everyone playing Halo CE is a child despite plenty of us being over 18, which is typically when you stop calling people kids. And I'm sure not a single kid plays Sins of a Solar Empire.

Unikraken then gets asked why did he share his models if he didn't want them floating around.



He replies with:



Although this makes no sense. The mod was shared publicly and if you can rip assets from Sins of a Solar Empire, it should be obvious that people could do that with any mod created. Unikraken gets asked this specifically. Let's also take a look how ASCENDANTJUSTICE responds. He clarifies his original statement by asking why did he share the mod? Then he goes on praising his work and that things like this will happen. The whole "carry on changing our world" part could have been taking offensively though if it was a sarcastic comment.



Unikraken doesn't respond to this question at all. The original poster finally shows up and responds with this.



The original poster acknowledges where it came from and just wanted to share it for Halo CE. Nothing wrong here. The original poster was not rude and replied with why he was doing what he was doing.

This is where Unikraken starts to go wrong.



He now is threatening the original poster. Besides some sarcastic comments, pretty much everyone has been completely respectful to Unikraken and this sign of aggression is completely out of place.

Unikraken gets ask what he is going to do.



The original poster also clarifies that these models are not his.



This is when it starts getting tricky. Unikraken starts editing his posts to numbers (so unless he was counting down-which would be more childish than what I think the posts were-he must have realized what he said was out of place).

I'm just going to guess that he threatened him a few more times.



Then Unikraken starts replying with why he wants the model down.



This starts off completely understandable. He doesn't want the model up because he didn't spend hours making it. He then makes another threat. What gets even worse here is that he suddenly thinks that either SOS (who he was replying to) or the CE crowd in general are "not a creator." I'm going to take a guess here, but I highly doubt Unikraken knows if SOS/CE are creators or not. Just a quick search for sos brought up two maps under that name. Despite that, many of the Halo CE community have created plenty of custom things ourselves and have had them stolen and even without credit. This accusation is stuck up and coming out of nowhere.

The original poster then removes the original post (despite there wasn't even a link to the model- just pictures.)

Some more people post.

Unikraken edited another one of his posts to nothing.

It seems pretty much everything should be solved by this point, right?



Suddenly he has respect for us, despite earlier he kept making snarky responses even when the majority of the people here were being nice to him. He then generalizes the Halo CE community as people who steal content from creators. Most of the replies he's getting is people saying that it sucks that someone took his model, but he should just get over it. No one is encouraging to steal here.



Yes, you're a Sins of the Empire modding group. That was established earlier.



He then mentions his legal team. For a mod with around 30,000 downloads, this is a highly amusing comment. He then mentions the MS Game Content Usage Rules (which is clearly visible on the moddb page. It seems that this mod abides to these rules, despite this, Unikraken mentions that they won't hold up in court. This makes no sense at all since it is law and they are following it. Unikraken may as well say "if the MS Game Content Usage Rules holds up, you're in the right. But since they don't apply, we're in the right." He then mentions other cases to a similar nature. I searched and did not find anything like this at all.



It's pretty apparent that Unikraken was not polite out of the box. Then again, let's just go back to the original post and remind you that it was only pictures of a ship in bloodgulch.

More stuff goes on and Unikraken basically reinstates this last post again. How the MS game content usage rules won't hold up in court and how similar cases prove so.



The original poster says he is sorry. Not once did the original poster ever seem hostile.



When asked about previous rulings, Unikraken avoids. He then once again says how the MS game content usage rules won't hold up in court and pretty much refers to us as kids again with this line.



And there you go. Welcome to this thread.
Edited by MatthewDratt on Jun 12, 2014 at 01:18 AM

Dratt. Is. The. Halomaps Detective.

I watch Sherlock

I'm just waiting for someone to download the mod, extract the assets, and put them in a CE mod for everyone to enjoy and rape--- erhm, rip... the models.

What's the bet that somebody's already on it?
Edited by Spartan314 on Jun 12, 2014 at 03:46 AM

1$, but I'd suggest to that USER that he/she upload a map under an anonymous nickname (TheRipper sounds good)

This way his "legal" team can't target anyone.

Oooooooo that sounds good. But wait guys we are forgetting the all mighty. Dennis. Can't wait to see the sins guy argue with him.
Edited by TheChunkierBean on Jun 12, 2014 at 10:24 AM

Like Dennis ever argues. And he is watching over us, he'd have already speak if it was needed

My point. Dennis doesn't even need to argue. He is victorious!

I may or may not have ran over a puppy and need legal advice.

Would appreciate some help :(