Or for the visually impaired (or those who can't read, we know you're out there)
http://youtu.be/4iOi_iPNC50?t=16s

Anyway CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.

As you all know Mooseguy and I have been collaborating on the Universal UI (which can be found here http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=42248 if you've been living under a rock)

We've come up with an idea, that fits somewhere between Achievements and Skulls, that we are dubbing... wait for it... Challenges.

While we're still about 2 weeks off from doing the actual ingame work, we wanted to sort through some ideas with the community as a whole. Challenges would be a UI screen that would start up at the beginning of a map, and give you certain objectives or options. For example, when booting a map such as Delta Halo, you would be presented witha UI where you could pick from the following options,

1. Complete the Level without using the tank. (Tank would not be enterable)
2. Complete the level without using a single vehicle. (No vehicle would be enterable)
3. Destroy 3 Phantoms. (try and destroy 3 Phantoms)
4. Hijack a Wraith and use it to destroy 6 Ghosts (try and do well, that)

We could even incorporate some form of skulls into the challenges system, such as a "Regen Skull" that would make enemy health regenerate to full every 30 seconds.

At the end of the map, you would be given a completion screen that would pop up, telling you which of the challenges you enabled you successfully completed. For multi map projects, we should even be use the success of a previous map's challenges to enable things in the next map of the series.

This would ultimately be an open source system, for all SP map makers to take advantage of. It would be OS dependent, as we need it's UI enhancements to allow this to work.

What we need from you all though is ideas. We want to have a repository of the best ideas, that can then be easily enabled by map makers when this project is done, so we can provide everyone with examples and setups that can be easily incorporated into maps.

Like I said, we're about 2-3 weeks from beginning to do actual work on this, so right now we just need your help brainstorming ideas.
Edited by Masters1337 on Jan 17, 2013 at 03:37 PM

Since you're using OS, have a look at the runtime integers documentation, should speed everything up a bit, and you can use core_save in the mainmenu to save it all.

Pacifist- Complete A10 without firing a single round.


That's for the Autumn- Destroy all enemy aircraft on A30.


Never knew what hit them- Get through (some point; to the grav lift?) of A50 without being detected.


Going in Dark- Complete A50 without using neither VISR nor the flashlight.


Sore Feet- Complete B30 without entering a vehicle.


Second Amendment revoked-Complete [insert flood level] without using the shotgun.


Granted, this is based off what I know about the original campaign.

More to come eventually.
Edited by WWLinkMasterX on Jan 17, 2013 at 04:17 PM
Edited by WWLinkMasterX on Jan 17, 2013 at 04:19 PM

God Amongst Men: Complete the campaign and all challenges on legendary.

The Man In Green: Don't die on any campaign mission on legendary or higher.

Early To The Fight: Get to the security disable point on tsc: evolved before finding the cartographer.

Punching Bag: Get through any campaign mission (or specified part) with only melee attacks and splatters.

Bringing A Grenade To A Gunfight: Any mission, any difficulty, no weapons, no melee, just a grenade.

I had an idea that would be easier then selecting challenges on startup. If it's possible, why not just display possible challenges in the same screen as the loadout screen, and then also have them displayed in the pause menu? As a challenge is unlocked, it would pop up in the HUD (if OS allows this) and then show at the end of the game.

The reason I bring this up is because it would seem unnecessary to have to select a challenge to complete at the start of the game. It would make more sense to have all challenges there for you to work for during the course of the level.

Oh, anyways:

Still Getting It - Complete a mission on Legendary without dying.
Edited by MoooseGuy on Jan 17, 2013 at 06:50 PM

Dominated - Kill a Hunter with melee attacks and without getting any damage from it.

(THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY HARD ACHIEVEMENT TO GET! LOL)
Edited by Mangenkyo on Jan 17, 2013 at 07:33 PM

Hyper-Lethal - Complete all the achievements

I have no time for this - Complete "The Silent Cartographer" (or any other level, actually..) in Hard or Legendary in less than 15 minutes..

Actually, not really. I do it all the time if I don't have a pistol on hand.

Necrophobia - Complete C10 without killing any flood

Grave Robber - Kill all the flood in C10

Squishy - Kill all flood in C10 using only melee attacks

Light on your feet - complete B40 without killing any grunts

Freddy Cruger - kill (20-40?) Grunts in their sleep

Mine! - steal a banshee in B40


how's that?

Perhaps a Post-game carnage type thing, where you can look at enemies killed and things like that.
Possibly a points system as well? activating and completing challenges gets you huge bonuses and such.

Stealth Murderer - Kill all three Stealth Class sword elite's on AOTCR, without being detected by any of them.

Make Me Your Prophet - Kill all enemies on T&R, no stragglers.

For Johnson - Beat your way through the Swamp Infestation, as Johnson did. (melee flood only).

Pest Control - Kill all flood forms on Keyes so that the marine's have nothing to worry about.



Idk what the point in this is though, It'd be better if friends could see the challenges.
Edited by Ki11erFTW on Jan 17, 2013 at 09:58 PM

I agree.. I'd rather be able to see the Challenges that I need to get.

As for my ideas...

Top Gun: Destroy five banshees using another banshee without getting damaged.

Hands of a Surgeon: Complete A50 with a sniper, but without ever zooming in.

Mutiny!: Provoke the UNSC into shooting at you.

Rise of the Chupathingy: Splatter at least 10 Elites on a Warthog.

Into the Howling Darkness: Enter the A50 Truth and Reconciliation's gravlift without getting Marines reinforcement.
Edited by renegade343 on Jan 17, 2013 at 10:52 PM

I'm going to tell you right now, that is impossible w/o mods

you mean visible damage, or do you mean avoiding any single stray bullet/plasma glob?

Avoiding stray bullet/plasma. That's just as (im)possible as the earlier ones, right?

none of them required you to avoid all fire period

unless you camp with a sniper rifle and nade everything, you won't go anywhere without taking a few hits

this is especially true in a banshee, whose maneuvering capabilities are rather limited

I think cmt's hunters are a lot tougher to dodge though

i was thinking about melee weapons e.g. G-Hammer and E-sword, then again they weren't implemented in CMT's campaign.

There will be a version of this UI that doesn't depend on OS right? I personally never cared for these kinds of achievements, nor PS3's trophies.

I Need Some Better Guns-Finish a Flood level on Heroic

"It would be OS dependent, as we need it's UI enhancements to allow this to work."

;)

I'm pretty sure Moose already said his UI wouldn't be OS dependant though. So this achievement UI will likely be seperate.

Great work guys. Any ideas on skulls we could do? If you have an idea for one, try to explain how you would implement it via script.

I'm asking because I am no longer certain of that. It would fit in with the agressive "force OS on everything" strategy after all.

There are no plans to make the Universal UI OS dependent.

Ah, so this would be more of an addon, which I assume could then work on any UI in general?

This would be something that would be built into each map file by it's developer. It's similar to how loadouts were incorporated into FF_Descent. but we call up a UI at the maps start and end.

GET OFF MAH NECK! AAAH! - Don't be attacked by an infection form without a shield on 'The Maw'.

I Never Liked Ships Anyway - Defeat 'The Maw' on Legendary.

I want a Grifball skull so I can turn orange. :)

Flood Food-Find Captain Keyes

That's no moon - complete A10 on legendary (not that hard, I just really wanted to make that joke)

Technologically illiterate: Play any level using only UNSC weapons.

Conservative: Never empty a full clip without reloading.

all levels after the library give you a plasma weapon on spawning, I believe.

and do you mean never having an empty clip?
Edited by master noob on Jan 19, 2013 at 11:30 PM

I think he means that you can never trigger the auto reload function by emptying your entire clip, but rather manually reload when there are still a few bullets left

Rampant Spartan! - Kill captain keys and survive for 15 minutes.
Edited by XboxHavic on Jan 23, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Jump down the ladder and go AFK.

...dammit
Edited by XboxHavic on Jan 23, 2013 at 01:04 PM

Combat Evolved: Defeat The Maw using only Covenant Weapons.

*EDIT: on legendary.
Edited by clonecam117 on Jan 23, 2013 at 02:18 PM