well... i just got an idea about this game and his mods...

i am really impressed of what is possible with this old engine, and every day i come here and see something, i am getting even more impressed.. the point is.. that you guys do some really awesome stuff.. like, Lumoria, CMT, waffles stuff, blablabla and blablabla... the problem is that just a little number of persons play this mods (or i think this should be not considered just as single mods)..

so, i think it's time to let the world know what we do here.. it's time to work on a game that will probably play it MORE people around the world..

i was interested about the Steam Greenlight proyect.. and i think it would be a really great idea if we do something for that proyect (and win money also..)
so.. im not saying that we are going to make a massive mod of this engine to make a game on steam (i think we could have some copyright problems, and also a crappy multiplayer mode if we do that).. im saying we need to move to a free and better engine.. like Source..

the Source engine is perfect because you dont need a REALLY HIGH computer to run the game.. and i think it's not that difficult to make something there..


so... what do you think guys?? do you want to continue making here AWESOME STUFF for a little number of people... or do you want to CONQUER THE WORLD!??



PD: sorry if my english sucks, and sorry Dennis if this is not the right place to post this...

No because that's only for the source engine and you really need a different set of tools and skills to work with source. I've pretty much been working with guerrilla,Sapien, and Tool++ for a long time. Also Halo CE is mostly limited by the memory limit on Tool and Tool++. I'm sure many modders agree things could be much better if we didn't have a tag limit, but at the same time that limit keeps the framerate in game at a reasonable level for the average player.

All in all if we had a better compiler we could really have many more great projects than we do now.

not supossed to be a halo game...

If it makes you feel any better: I'm not modeling with gothic architecture for nothing. I'm planning something other than halo

please, stop commenting.. :)

It's not like CMT or the Lumoria team is going to work on something else, they haven't even finished their Halo projects and I doubt they really have time to work on anything else.

Show me the engine and how things look ingame and i will help with concept art, weapons, vehicles, characters, and storyline. and what ever else... >.> So pretty much anything but the engine, and putting anything ingame...unless it's easy and simple...

I disagree.

If you want to make a whole new game, then whose gonna program it? With our halo community, look at how few people can actually write their own scripts compared to just recycling other scripts. And you want people to move on to a new engine with just that?..

And with what Tiel said, I actually enjoy proving people wrong when they claim something is impossible in this engine. That's probably the only reason I'm still around, just to change peoples beliefs, and make them see the bigger picture. If I moved to a new engine, I would have to make things sooo much more amazing to do the same thing I do here, and I am a lazy person, slugging along will take a while.

never played half life 2? counter strike source or global offensive? portal or portal 2? team fortress 2?
(btw, not necessary an storyline, could just be a multiplayer game...) i can actually help a lot with design, and everything which involves textures..



yeah, but try to say something useful.. not to talk with sarcasm or something else.. i know the knowledge of this game is not even close with the source one.. but as i said in the thread, the work i see here is amazing, and there should be a way to get everyone to continue working, but, with a more pulished engine and then let the people to know they work..
Edited by Mangenkyo on Aug 6, 2012 at 05:36 PM

To Mangenko-

Ohhhhh... That's what i get for skimming.... >.>

That's where you're wrong. Speaking for ourselves, we've always finished what we've started and our Halo adventures are coming to a closure very soon.

We already have plans for what we're going to do afterwards, and it is indeed an indie game. With enough hard work and promotion, I think it could really take off :-)

Heres some advice for people looking to go make their own game and sell it.

Don't use Source. Its a very old and outdated engine, and some aspects are even worse then dealing with Halo's engine. If you seriously want to get out there and start making real games, use either Cryengine3 or the Unreal Development Kit, both amazing options for next gen games. You can also sell both games once you finish them, although Crytek/Epic takes a royalty out of both, Epic for Unreal is 20% after 50k USD has been made and I believe Crytek has something similar.

You could also start learning C and other programming languages and simply develop your own engines, which many people have done before. It's time consuming, and you wont be able to jump straight into development, but then again, you will also have to pay no royalties at all and you will have your very own engine to use.

At no offense to you I've never even heard of you.

If everyone in the Halo modding community joined together and did this under one massive project, then it would seem like a realistic goal. Unfortunately, there's no way that would ever happen.

But still, an indie game would be really nice.

Sounds like Halo:Olympus and Garry's Mod.

Minecraft was essentially made by one man.
It doesn't take an entire community, just a few driven individuals.

Like Bungie,when they began working on Halo.

Yeah, and now just like some others too. The developers of games such as Cube World and Castle Story, both very promising games imo.

I've got an idea!
Somebody become a very popular YouTube commentator! When you reach 10,000+ subs, you can then advertise Halo Custom Edition! Great idea, right?
(I hope people get the sarcasm...)

Halo 0 is an indie game.

funny... you just joined yesterday...



interesting..... but, what about the Unity engine??

I don't understand the question.

Are you asking for the entire community to work together on an indie game?
Or are you asking for anyone from the community to work on an indie game?

First possible question, answer is No.
I'm not speaking for everyone else here but I highly doubt that everyone here would want to work together. The community is already split into seperate teams or individual modders. Why would everyone want to work together now for an indie game?
I mean, what would be the point? If CMT and TM worked together on an indie game, then a few from each team would be useless as only one leader, one writer, and one concept artist is really needed in such a small collaborative partnership.

Second possible question, Yes. TM has already admitted and announced that they are working on an indie game, and are using Cryengine. A few others are likely working on indie projects of their own too.
I myself have been mentally planning an indie game for a long time, and could start a team to work on it at any time. However I don't really want to at the moment, thus I've been playing and modding other games recently, in order to practice.

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Edited by Jaz on Aug 7, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Personally, I think the most efficient way to keep and promote Halo custom content while circumventing the current limits are to reverse-engineer and pretty much "remake" Halo CE on our own. This should let most of how maps and assets for Halo are created stay the way it is now, while renewing the engine system from the ground up, making them work to our liking.

However, this would involve amounts of manpower that makes CMT and Lumoria look like something babies could make.

Cryengine, iD, Unreal, Source etc. are good engines for indie games, but that's not exactly something I think we should be considering in this forum. My approach above... .... if only that were more feasible. Bleh.







EDIT: Minor Corrections.
Edited by renegade343 on Aug 7, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Uh,if we had that much manpower and resources,I'm sure it would've been done long ago.
343 would probably force the project to end if we tried.
Edited by Dumb AI on Aug 7, 2012 at 01:09 PM
Edited by Dumb AI on Aug 7, 2012 at 01:10 PM

Sure I just joined the forum yesterday but I've been downloading mods for years.

Also in response to renegade, currently making a map in the .yelo format circumvents a lot of at least graphical limits as far as custom maps are concerned.
Edited by Suprememessage on Aug 7, 2012 at 01:18 PM

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