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Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010

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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 11:55 AM    Msg. 36 of 225       
That ground grass texture needs darkening.

The scenery grass is pretty cool.
Edited by Jaz on Jan 21, 2012 at 11:56 AM


TauSigmaNova
Joined: Jan 31, 2011

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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 11:56 AM    Msg. 37 of 225       
@Ch Yes, yes i do.
But im not trying to sound like a noob or anything, but maybe use some Halo 3 grass textures or something?
Iunno, just asking


ChBgt909
Joined: Sep 10, 2011

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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 12:02 PM    Msg. 38 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: TauSigmaNova
@Ch Yes, yes i do.
But im not trying to sound like a noob or anything, but maybe use some Halo 3 grass textures or something?
Iunno, just asking


this is the texture i'm using atm, should i change it?


Maniac1000
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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 12:12 PM    Msg. 39 of 225       
I think that one looks good, but you could try these if you want.




There are others in my photobucket too.
Or try the halo 2 detail maps.
Edited by Maniac1000 on Jan 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM


ChBgt909
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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 12:21 PM    Msg. 40 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000

I think that one looks good, but you could try these if you want.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t151/Maniac1000/textures_skins/sparce_grass_detail.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t151/Maniac1000/textures_skins/plantage.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t151/Maniac1000/textures_skins/morester_grass.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t151/Maniac1000/textures_skins/more_grass.jpg
There are others in my photobucket too.
Or try the halo 2 detail maps.
Edited by Maniac1000 on Jan 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM


thx i like the 3rd one :)


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 12:22 PM    Msg. 41 of 225       
For the cliff walls just increase the number of detail map tiles and just tile the texture itself a bit more than it is now.


ChBgt909
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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 12:29 PM    Msg. 42 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
For the cliff walls just increase the number of detail map tiles and just tile the texture itself a bit more than it is now.


thx i will however it will have to wait, atm i'm making new structures then i have to attach them to the ground and then i need to readjust the unwrapping of the terrain

edit: i think i will make the bases similar to the shield generator structures in the halo 3 level the covenant and for the structure in the middle... idk lol
Edited by ChBgt909 on Jan 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM


TM_updates
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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 12:32 PM    Msg. 43 of 225       
U r good human!


KingFisher
Joined: Jun 10, 2011

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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 02:43 PM    Msg. 44 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000
Thank kingfisher :)


You are welcome.

I'm a big fan of how you created your terrain and made the cliffs and ground merge smoothly. I'm practicing how to create ground textures and what nots, but how the heck did you make it so the ground/cliff bitmap looks smooth and natural?


ChBgt909
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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 02:46 PM    Msg. 45 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: KingFisher
Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000
Thank kingfisher :)


You are welcome.

I'm a big fan of how you created your terrain and made the cliffs and ground merge smoothly. I'm practicing how to create ground textures and what nots, but how the heck did you make it so the ground/cliff bitmap looks smooth and natural?


i used uvw unwrap (took me like 3-4 hours but it was worth it)


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: Jan 21, 2012 02:58 PM    Msg. 46 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: ChBgt909
Quote: --- Original message by: KingFisher
Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000
Thank kingfisher :)


You are welcome.

I'm a big fan of how you created your terrain and made the cliffs and ground merge smoothly. I'm practicing how to create ground textures and what nots, but how the heck did you make it so the ground/cliff bitmap looks smooth and natural?


i used uvw unwrap (took me like 3-4 hours but it was worth it)


I think he meant how did you get the transition between grass and cliff extremely smooth and blend easily.


ChBgt909
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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 03:02 PM    Msg. 47 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
Quote: --- Original message by: ChBgt909
Quote: --- Original message by: KingFisher
Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000
Thank kingfisher :)


You are welcome.

I'm a big fan of how you created your terrain and made the cliffs and ground merge smoothly. I'm practicing how to create ground textures and what nots, but how the heck did you make it so the ground/cliff bitmap looks smooth and natural?


i used uvw unwrap (took me like 3-4 hours but it was worth it)


I think he meant how did you get the transition between grass and cliff extremely smooth and blend easily.

yeah i know, as i said i used uvw unwrap on the model then i created a template from the flattened uvw and sent it to photoshop to create the texture.


Sergeant 1337
Joined: May 1, 2010

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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 03:05 PM    Msg. 48 of 225       
See, thats how cliffs should look in maps. Smooth. Not just hard edged like ever other map. un-realistic.

This map is beautiful, and with the right buildings, it will be perfect. Great job OP!


ChBgt909
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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 03:14 PM    Msg. 49 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: Sergeant 1337
See, thats how cliffs should look in maps. Smooth. Not just hard edged like ever other map. un-realistic.

This map is beautiful, and with the right buildings, it will be perfect. Great job OP!


haha thx, well this is something rly difficult to do i had to watch tutorials, and you need to have a lot of PATIENCE it took me like 4 hours, idk maybe more lol, but i love that 3ds max 10 makes the job easier

~edit~ im gonna be AFK for... maybe 3-4 hours, feel free to post any advice, suggestions, ect. oh and thx guys srsly

Edited by ChBgt909 on Jan 21, 2012 at 03:18 PM


KingFisher
Joined: Jun 10, 2011

Creativity is the main element of level design.


Posted: Jan 21, 2012 03:18 PM    Msg. 50 of 225       
That is impressive with how you were able to unwrap the ground and cliffs on one template and work on that. A+ patience and work right there!


ChBgt909
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Posted: Jan 22, 2012 01:25 AM    Msg. 51 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: qwertyuiop15
Quote: --- Original message by: ChBgt909

Hello, as you can see i'm new here, but i've been making maps for a while, i just made this map the last week but i still feel like it needs something, i know that the structures look too simple but idk what u think... i have to add weapons, details, and if you want i can change the structures (it would be a pain but i'll deal with it lol)...some SS. (by the way sorry for my english lol)
http://i40.tinypic.com/708kz7.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/wakd3l.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/206onjm.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/oaojtu.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/o07aqc.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/s6pyfs.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/1z5udxd.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/x2kvo9.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2pt72hw.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2e663oo.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/2d3vc8.jpg

Edited by ChBgt909 on Jan 21, 2012 at 01:59 AM
That looks awesome, & I love the lighting <3


thx :)b but i think i'm gonna use aether to make a better lighting :)
I just made the structure that is gonna be the base, as i said it kind of looks like the shield generator tower from halo 3 The Covenant, it needs more details and it doesn't have interiors yet, hope u like it






ally
Joined: Jun 23, 2010

Aye Ready


Posted: Jan 22, 2012 01:42 AM    Msg. 52 of 225       
in one word 'perfect'


TM_updates
Joined: Aug 31, 2011

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Posted: Jan 22, 2012 02:57 AM    Msg. 53 of 225       
With a wee bit more detail, yes, it'd be fantastic!


LegionofShadows
Joined: Jul 10, 2011

The Red Pill is strong in this one.


Posted: Jan 22, 2012 03:46 AM    Msg. 54 of 225       
I give my approval.

This map..IS APPROVED!


ChBgt909
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Posted: Jan 22, 2012 03:23 PM    Msg. 55 of 225       
i hope u can notice the difference, i will add more details and i have to make the interiors


Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010

Former biped rigger & FP animator


Posted: Jan 22, 2012 03:35 PM    Msg. 56 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: LegionofShadows
I give my approval.

This map..IS !

ftfy


bourrin33
Joined: Oct 19, 2009

HEK not installed tho


Posted: Jan 22, 2012 04:16 PM    Msg. 57 of 225       
Man, I need your rendering setting and lights :D

Very nice looking map, ask me for tags if I made some cool ones before you release this, i'd be glad to do something for you.

Tho I'm very unsure you're a beginner


ChBgt909
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Posted: Jan 22, 2012 04:42 PM    Msg. 58 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: bourrin33
Man, I need your rendering setting and lights :D

Very nice looking map, ask me for tags if I made some cool ones before you release this, i'd be glad to do something for you.

Tho I'm very unsure you're a beginner


well i just used a daylight system, u go to the create panel > systems > daylight and then u create the light then u go to modify and in the sunlight section u change "standard" for "mr sun" and skylight to "mr sky" and thats it, about the tags... well i've been looking for that beam used in the map revelations and regret map but those maps are protected ._. for now i think i have everything i need and i do know how to make scenery objects, animations (not pro), scripting (not pro), compile sounds, create sprites, however i'm pretty sure that u are better than me in all those things so if i want something in my map i can't do i will ask you thank you srsly
and im not a beginner, but i'm not a pro either

~edit~ i think i don't need to tell you this but for the lighting u need to use the mental ray renderer
~moar edit~ p.s. sry for my english lol

~UPDATES~
Should i use this in the middle of the map?




Edited by ChBgt909 on Jan 22, 2012 at 05:31 PM


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

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Posted: Jan 22, 2012 10:07 PM    Msg. 59 of 225       
I have a Halo 3 tower structure that I created a couple years ago with a far bit more detail on it. If you would like to use it as reference to improve youres, let me know. When I get home from being out I can lend you a render, but for now you can see it in the map TM_Fracture.


ChBgt909
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Posted: Jan 23, 2012 02:12 AM    Msg. 60 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
I have a Halo 3 tower structure that I created a couple years ago with a far bit more detail on it. If you would like to use it as reference to improve youres, let me know. When I get home from being out I can lend you a render, but for now you can see it in the map TM_Fracture.


thx the structure is very good, watching the model in the map was more than enough and well i made some changes take a look:





(i think im done with the external look, u tell me)

The interiors, i need to add more details obviously but i'm not going to add more hallways or rooms, i'm gonna keep it as it is.




~EDIT~
Since Caboose is making a firefight map called Installation 04, the new name of my map will be "Alpha halo" original huh? lol
what do you think?
Edited by ChBgt909 on Jan 23, 2012 at 02:35 AM


ChBgt909
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Posted: Jan 23, 2012 03:32 AM    Msg. 61 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: Tiel
Omega Halo sounds cooler :]


hmm yeah sounds cool i chose alpha halo because that's the official name (as far as i know) given to installation 04 but i will think about it thx


LegionofShadows
Joined: Jul 10, 2011

The Red Pill is strong in this one.


Posted: Jan 23, 2012 03:33 AM    Msg. 62 of 225       
Choose something more original than Alpha Halo, please. How about that Titulus Antiqua from the first page?

How about Lonely Pillar? Lonely Outpost?

Battle of the Cheese Monster?


ally
Joined: Jun 23, 2010

Aye Ready


Posted: Jan 23, 2012 03:42 AM    Msg. 63 of 225       
the name sounds spot on and seeing your map was supposed to be called installation 04 the official name seems fitting. sent you a pm with a few images to look at.


LegionofShadows
Joined: Jul 10, 2011

The Red Pill is strong in this one.


Posted: Jan 23, 2012 03:44 AM    Msg. 64 of 225       
Yea, but Alpha Halo is used WAY to much in my opinion.

Oh well. Names don't always matter.


olly12345
Joined: Jul 30, 2008


Posted: Jan 23, 2012 09:05 AM    Msg. 65 of 225       
Name suggestions
Temperament, it would go better with a more vibrant look.
Tethered, you could make it look like it's part of a larger installation, possibly for weather control, or used to keep the installations orbit secure.
Habitat, i don't know if you know much about the adding of ambient life, but if you made it lively enough that could warrant such a name.
Think of a name that matches the map, Sandtrap was sandy and had mines, Snowbound had snow and you were bound to the confines behind the guns, Highground has a highground etc.
Installation_04 is too generic imo.


ChBgt909
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Posted: Jan 23, 2012 02:28 PM    Msg. 66 of 225       
I added more details to the interior, but i think i will add more






I fixed a geometry error i had in this part:


What do you think?

Oh and one more thing, i decided that this structure is going to be the blue base, but i will make another structure as red base, because the map is too small to have two of these structures... so >.>


anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: Jan 23, 2012 03:01 PM    Msg. 67 of 225       
I'm liking the look of this project. Just work on your cliff's and make the rocks a bit more believable. The transition between the rocks and, metal for example shouldn't be so sharp. Put some faces with no collision over the seam and put a dirt texture on with some alpha maps.

The grass also goes straight to a rock texture way too sharply. You should use a different cliff texture instead of the default ones. They are rather old and outdated tbh :/ No depth to them at all.


ChBgt909
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Posted: Jan 23, 2012 03:09 PM    Msg. 68 of 225       
@anon: i will do that thx

@Tiel: haha thx, glad you like it

btw, how do i make multiple quotes in a post o.o

~EDIT~ For those who want to know what rendering settings i'm using, take a look at this video, it will answer most of your questions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kitK-b2r80g

One more thing, i installed OS two days ago, i'm not using OS tool, guerilla, or sapien in this map, but... will OS affect my map?, will OS be a requirement to play this map even if i didn't use OS tool, gue, and sapien at all?
Edited by ChBgt909 on Jan 23, 2012 at 03:15 PM


TM_updates
Joined: Aug 31, 2011

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Posted: Jan 23, 2012 03:23 PM    Msg. 69 of 225       
Just don't open your scenario with an OS_Sapien as that will make it unreadable by default Sapien, or so I heard. I dare not try it myself D:
As long as you use normal HEK tools you'll be fine.


ChBgt909
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Posted: Jan 23, 2012 03:37 PM    Msg. 70 of 225       
Quote: --- Original message by: TM_updates
Just don't open your scenario with an OS_Sapien as that will make it unreadable by default Sapien, or so I heard. I dare not try it myself D:
As long as you use normal HEK tools you'll be fine.


that's true, it screwed up my sandbox map ._.
Edited by ChBgt909 on Jan 23, 2012 at 04:05 PM

 
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