Ok, so when I try to open tutorial scenario, it works. When I try opening something else, it freezes and closes. I have tried the set affinity for cpu 0, cpu1, and both, that doesn't work. Here is the error code, one for bloodgulch, one for infinity:

~~~~bloodgulch~~~

12.15.11 19:01:59 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
12.15.11 19:01:59 reference function: _write_to_error_file
12.15.11 19:01:59 reference address: 401b13
12.15.11 19:01:59 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
12.15.11 19:01:59 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
12.15.11 19:01:59 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
12.15.11 19:01:59 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
12.15.11 19:01:59 file_open('tags\levels\test\gulch\gulch.sky') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
12.15.11 19:01:59 couldn't open sky tag 'gulch.sky'.
12.15.11 19:02:02 file_open('tags\levels\test\gulch\detail_objects\grass_small\grass_small.detail_object_collection') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
12.15.11 19:02:02 couldn't open detail_object_collection tag 'grass_small.detail_object_collection'.
12.15.11 19:02:02 file_open('tags\levels\test\gulch\detail_objects\grass_field\grass_field.detail_object_collection') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
12.15.11 19:02:02 couldn't open detail_object_collection tag 'grass_field.detail_object_collection'.
12.15.11 19:02:02 failed to load scenario tag 'levels\gulch\theghost'sbloodgulch'
12.15.11 19:02:02 need to get the following tags:
12.15.11 19:02:02 levels\test\gulch\gulch.sky
12.15.11 19:02:02 levels\test\gulch\detail_objects\grass_small\grass_small.detail_object_collection
12.15.11 19:02:02 levels\test\gulch\detail_objects\grass_field\grass_field.detail_object_collection
12.15.11 19:02:02
12.15.11 19:02:02 game_load() failed.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~infinity~~~~~~~~~~~~~

12.15.11 19:41:14 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
12.15.11 19:41:14 reference function: _write_to_error_file
12.15.11 19:41:14 reference address: 401b13
12.15.11 19:41:14 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
12.15.11 19:41:14 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
12.15.11 19:41:14 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
12.15.11 19:41:15 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
12.15.11 19:41:19 file_open('tags\levels\test\infinity\infinity.scenario_structure_bsp') error 0x00000002 'The system cannot find the file specified. '
12.15.11 19:41:19 couldn't open scenario_structure_bsp tag 'infinity.scenario_structure_bsp'.
12.15.11 19:41:19 failed to load structure bsp 'levels\test\infinity\infinity'










Any help would be greatly appreciated! xfire me at nmesoviet, or post here, or email me!

You are missing these tags to open bloodgulch.

12.15.11 19:02:02 levels\test\gulch\gulch.sky
12.15.11 19:02:02 levels\test\gulch\detail_objects\grass_small\grass_small.detail_object_collection
12.15.11 19:02:02 levels\test\gulch\detail_objects\grass_field\grass_field.detail_object_collection

You need to extract the some more files from infinity (the structure bsp )

Maybe i should clarify: I am a beginning user, and this is what i did. Downloaded halo CE, and HEK/toolkit. I open up HEK, open map infinity, go to levels, and extract the scenario. Then, i paste it into tags folder. I try to open it up in Sapien, but it freezes.

Is there anything i should do? anything im doing wrong? also, if i need to extract all the tags, where do i put, thanks!

Also, how should i go about extracting tags, then putting them into say bloodgulch for halo trial?
Edited by nmesoviet on Dec 15, 2011 at 09:18 PM

k
you are half way there.
You need to extract all the dependent tags that the tag you are using needs.
a scenario refers to a structure bsp and all other tags in that map.
If you have the scenario but not the structure bsp or any of the other tags that the map uses, then you will gen an error when opening the scenario in sapien.

In hek+ open a map.
rightclik on no tag but in the tags window and "select all"
rightclik on your selection and "extract to"
check the "use original folder names" (or similar)
extract.
the tags will be extracted to the correct folders in prog files/msoftgames/haloce/tags
Edited by Maniac1000 on Dec 15, 2011 at 09:28 PM

Ok, i did that, and in HEK, it said tags extracted. Now when i try to open in sapien, it stays open much longer (although frozen) and closes. here is the new error code:

12.16.11 06:36:38 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
12.16.11 06:36:38 reference function: _write_to_error_file
12.16.11 06:36:38 reference address: 401b13
12.16.11 06:36:39 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
12.16.11 06:36:39 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
12.16.11 06:36:39 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
12.16.11 06:36:40 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
12.16.11 06:37:40 file_read('tags\levels\test\bloodgulch\bloodgulch.bitmap') error 0x00000026 'Reached the end of the file. '
12.16.11 06:37:40 couldn't read #108 bytes from offset #64 in local tag 'tags\levels\test\bloodgulch\bloodgulch.bitmap'
12.16.11 06:37:40 couldn't read elements for bitmap block
12.16.11 06:37:40 failed to load bitmap tag 'levels\test\bloodgulch\bloodgulch'
12.16.11 06:37:41 failed to load scenario_structure_bsp tag 'levels\test\bloodgulch\bloodgulch'
12.16.11 06:37:41 failed to load structure bsp 'levels\test\bloodgulch\bloodgulch'

thanks for are your help. My ultimate goal is to take tags, such as heavy scorpion tags, and put them into bloodgulch or a campaign level as vehicles. Is Sapien the right program, and am i going about it right?

btw, someone said i might have a problem with my globals? if that makes sense to you.


EDIT:
12.16.11 06:36:39 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'

is this something to do with it?
Also when i open guerrilla it says you need to set a working directory, and gives error that also reads
12.16.11 06:54:18 guerilla pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
12.16.11 06:54:18 reference function: _write_to_error_file
12.16.11 06:54:18 reference address: 4011a4
12.16.11 06:54:18 Couldn't read map file './guerillabeta.map'
12.16.11 06:54:37 you need to set your working directory.

Tool also has problems:12.16.11 07:02:42 tool pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
12.16.11 07:02:42 reference function: _write_to_error_file
12.16.11 07:02:42 reference address: 42ca20
12.16.11 07:02:42 Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'
Edited by nmesoviet on Dec 16, 2011 at 07:02 AM
Edited by nmesoviet on Dec 16, 2011 at 07:03 AM

Yea make sure when you extract a level make sure you extract all the files in the levels or it will do that :p

when i try to extract all the files, this pops up:


An Exception occured within the program, it is advised to contact a developer
so this issue can be fixed.
Include the generated 'error.log' file created in the main mscorlib directory
and use the addresses provided in the about dialog to email the log

System.IO.IOException: The process cannot access the file 'F:\Computer Stuff\Halo\Halo Custom Edition\tags\levels\test\icefields\icefields.bitmap' because it is being used by another process.

--- STACK TRACE ---
at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
at System.IO.File.Delete(String path)
at TagExtractor.Script_Parser.ScriptParser.BeginConversion()
at TagExtractor.TagConverterPlugin.tceq_ExtractStart(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at TagExtractor.TagConverterExtractQueue.OnExtractStart(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at TagExtractor.TagConverterExtractQueue.button6_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


Here is the error log


--Exception log--

Date: 12/16/2011
Assembly Name: mscorlib
Product Version: 1.0.2.0
Exception: The process cannot access the file 'F:\Computer Stuff\Halo\Halo Custom Edition\tags\levels\test\icefields\icefields.bitmap' because it is being used by another process.


--Stack Trace--

at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
at System.IO.File.Delete(String path)
at TagExtractor.Script_Parser.ScriptParser.BeginConversion()
at TagExtractor.TagConverterPlugin.tceq_ExtractStart(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at TagExtractor.TagConverterExtractQueue.OnExtractStart(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at TagExtractor.TagConverterExtractQueue.button6_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.Con


btw i did this to bloodgulch, but pressed continue, and apparently all tags did not extract

You had another process using the icefields.bitmap.
Try re extract all the files in icefields.map again (dont extract the scorpion)
If that results in the same error shown in debug.txt then you may want to re extract icefields.bitmap and check the overwrite box when extracting.
Always remember to uncheck that box when you are finished extracting.

After more thought, i see you dont have halo installed in the default directory.
When the "use original folder paths" is checked, it will extract to c/prog files/msoft games/haloce/tags/where ever the are located in the tags folder.

I have no experience with having halo installed in another location, but i would imaging you have to cup/copy paste the tags from c/prog files/msoft games/haloce/tags/where ever the are located in the tags folder, or where ever you extracted the tags to, paste them into the install location/tags/where ever the are located in the tags folder.

Edited by Maniac1000 on Dec 16, 2011 at 07:50 PM

It just stops extracting when i reahc the bitmap. I click extrac all, and the text at the bottom says

levels\test\icyfields\icyfields.bitmap

and it never extracts
this happens for all maps

try deleting that file and extracting only it again.

all right, i reinstalled halo ce into program files, and now sapien works. I tested it on death island.

Now, however, how do i add the "heavy scorpion" tags i downloaded into a map.

also, i made a map called overload, do i just extract those tags to the same place?

EDIT: i tried to open another map, and this happened:

12.17.11 16:51:32 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
12.17.11 16:51:32 reference function: _write_to_error_file
12.17.11 16:51:32 reference address: 401b13
12.17.11 16:51:32 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
12.17.11 16:51:33 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
12.17.11 16:51:33 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
12.17.11 16:51:33 file_open('tags\ui\editor\markers\normal\normal.gbxmodel') error 0x00000003 'The system cannot find the path specified. '
12.17.11 16:51:33 couldn't open gbxmodel tag 'normal.gbxmodel'.
12.17.11 16:51:33 EAX: 0x00000000
12.17.11 16:51:33 EBX: 0x706C6101
12.17.11 16:51:33 ECX: 0x00000000
12.17.11 16:51:33 EDX: 0x00000000
12.17.11 16:51:33 EDI: 0x0018F2A0
12.17.11 16:51:33 ESI: 0x00000000
12.17.11 16:51:33 EBP: 0x0018F178
12.17.11 16:51:33 ESP: 0x0018F168
12.17.11 16:51:33 EIP: 0x77360C32, 83 C4 04 C2 ?????
12.17.11 16:51:33 EXCEPTION halt in .\editor_renderer.cpp,#189: marker.model_index!=NONE

btw, some of my tags were corrupted, so i deleted all the files in that folder, and reextracted the timberland map.
Edited by nmesoviet on Dec 17, 2011 at 04:53 PM

you are missing or have corrupted ui/renderer files

ALRIGHT SAPIEN WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now how do i put heavy scorpion tags in bloodgulch

I fixed it by extracting tags from Halo Full Verison, not CE.
Edited by nmesoviet on Dec 17, 2011 at 06:34 PM

Open Sapien, and in the Hierarchy Window you should see "Mission" and a plus sign beside it. Click on that and it will show more stuff. Open "Objects", then "Units", then click on "Vehicles". Now click on the "Edit Types" button. You should see that the object class is vehicles. Now click the "Add" button and open the heavy scorpion.vehicle tag. Then click OK and right-click where you want the heavy scorpion to be. After placing that, go to the Properties window and select the heavy scorpion as the type. Type a name for it because Halo CE doesn't spawn custom vehicles.
To spawn the thing, use a script or while you are in-game type in the console "object_create_anew <vehicle name>"