I tried to take everyone's advice by trying out Halo Custom edition to mod some maps, I downloaded Halo Editing Kit, only to realize how bull this program is by the way it works.

Guerilla: Guerilla is a program that does not make any sense at all. You can't even open a map. All you do is edit tags. Plus, I don't know what the hell these settings do. Do they expect me to figure out how to edit these tags but not give me any information on what the settings do?

Halo Editing Kit Plus: This is absolutely the WORST program I have EVER used to mod Halo. Everytime I try to open a map, it stops responding. I have to run it in Windows Vista Classic to get it to work. Why do I have to go through all that JUST to run a program? Plus, there's no actual way to 'swap' metas or even edit them. All I can do is 'extact' tags which is BS considering the fact I don't even know what I am extracting it to. The actual biped tag for an elite on <insert map here> is not in the tag. Plus, this is a really unoriginal program.

Sapien: This program is next to worse. Everytime I open it, it halts and then closes by itself. I have to open the task manager to end some sort of CPU Process under 'Set Affinity' to get it to work. Then, the program lacks any information on controls. Plus, this program also have settings that are very confusing and hard to use.

These three programs are terrible programs I have ever used to mod Halo. In addition, you have to go through ALOT of work and alot of computer adjusting and changes to get these things to work. Halo PC is very easy to mod because of how easy HMT, HHT and eschaton is to mod Halo.

Sounds like you might just know what you are doing, none of the programs are awesome but they aren't difficult to use.

HEK+ Is not an official tool

HEK comes with a tutorial, and many others availabe.
Not our fault your computer can't run it. It's a modding program, not a full fledged engine SDK.
We don't care for your little rant on how much you hate the only viable tools availabe to mod Halo Custom Edition to date. Take it, or leave it.
Go big, or go back to HMT and HHT.

the first time i used hek i never had problems, its easy to use, so i dont know whats the problem, and hek is much better than hmt etc.

So instead raging about the programs like an idiot you should learn to use them or go back to halo pc modding (which is more complicated sometimes than halo ce in my opinion) .

tm_updates told me to come here and that you guys would be nice!!

Making maps,or mods for that matter, shouldn't be easy. But then again. If people manage to upload hundreds of blood gulch mods, it can't be that hard? I hope you do understand that knowledge is the key to succeed. I assume you are unfamiliar with that concept. Also don't run around thinking you can act like a spoiled kid and have everything served on a silver platter.
Edited by Wolf_ on Dec 1, 2011 at 04:53 PM
Edited by Wolf_ on Dec 1, 2011 at 04:55 PM

tm_updates isn't nice. I'm sorry, you have to face the cold truth.

Looks like you had not researched anything about these programs in the editing kit and instantly jumped to a conclusion. No one's going to help you if your attitude and patience is like this.

These programs combined are far more superior than the fail meta swapping HMT and HHT considering all the possibilities, but it's nothing you would know.

If you haven't known already, HEK is probably one of the easiest set of tools that can be used to mod "A" game (talking about all moddable games here in general). Other modding tools for other games that are comparable to HEK are much harder to use (talking about the capability of the modding tool that can be compared to HEK's).
Edited by XlzQwerty1 on Dec 1, 2011 at 06:21 PM

this thread was a set-up

forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=39428

You should have a hat and pipe.

yes, it was rather elaborate, wasn't it

Pathetic was the term i used in that other thread.

opinions brah.

you have to admit though, I put more thought into the set-up than many users here are capable of

Everyone was nice in Marcus' project thread, you didn't "prove" anything?

lol.

modacity was nicer. I believe I did. ;)



love u bro

No, no not really. Especially once he started reacting hostile to advice, you people didn't remain calm and kept on flaming him. Anyways, nice that yound a good way to fill in your thursday evening, you should be proud. I watched an exciting soccer game with my best friends.

yeah it took twelve threads spammed on the CE section of modacity for any hostility to occur

took this place five posts

and yeah I've been doing art on the side. you know, fun stuff
Edited by HaloIsAHorribleGane on Dec 1, 2011 at 08:35 PM

Halo Editing Kit Plus Vista Fix:

1. Right-click on your Halo Editing Kit Plus icon

2. Click properties

3. Click the compatibility tab

4. Check "disable desktop composition"

Sapien crashes for you because you are using broken maps (you would have to fix them in Guerilla)

Although I do agree that it would be nice if there was a centralized official tutorial that taught you about the settings in Guerilla and Sapien. The official tutorial only talks about basic mapping.

MARCUSSSSS! You have been wrong about so many things that…I’m not even going to say something’s wrong anymore, instead I’m just going to say that it's MARCUSSSSS!

That then only proves you are worse than those you are trying to expose since you should know better and could have instead taken the time to actually help others instead of causing trouble. All you have done is prove that 13-16 year old's are not as mature as 17-19 year old's, which has been known for centuries, and give us really old folks another reason to to shake our heads.

opinions, which you are entitled to



and I have from time to time assisted people around these forums, if you can recall. not only have I assisted people having trouble, I've contributed to requests made. this "trouble causing" I do every now and again, consider it anonymous vigilante/mercenary "life lessons" work.



well yes. that fact should be blatantly obvious, shouldn't it? most members don't seem to grasp this idea. which is where I come in.



damn whippersnappers

I just felt this had to be quoted. Read it again.

what

sorry I'm dyslexic

could you quote it one more time for me

Just keep reading it until you understand it.

I simply don't have the brain power.

I'm still amazed how seriously people take this rivalry between Modacity and Halomaps.

Not to a 13-16 year old or it wouldn't be the case.
You were not appointed to the task and even if you felt a need for self appointed it still requires my consent to do so in this forum and consent was definitely not given.

If you feel the need to troll go somewhere else otherwise continue assisting others in a mature fashion.

There isn't one. To my knowledge the owners of the respective websites have no issues with each other or the websites. As far as I know they are all on very good terms.

Individual forum members, however, I cannot speak to.


Edited by Dennis on Dec 1, 2011 at 09:35 PM

perhaps I can indeed tone down the hostility/"trolling" aspect of my approach a tad, but as people's heads are embedded in their bowels, I will continue to have full intentions of speaking up and correcting them. I will try to mold my approach to be more fitting.

Definitely not between you and TheGhost, but there are a lot of members from both sites that hate the other with a passion.
Edited by Timo on Dec 1, 2011 at 10:00 PM

LOL at OP your an idiot... Halo PC modding tools are there to change basic values and make minor changes...

HEK is a full editing kit which Bungie used to create the levels... you use it to make custom maps instead of crappy mods of the same map... Get your facts straight, dumb...

lol hunter, you should check Posted: Today @ 06:21 PM, check last post of first page, and think about what you just said

Just to be clear either you can or I will for you. But you of course knew that.

I laughed at this. Firstly, the quote from me saying he shouldn't get into game development is NOT trolling. It's simply a fact. If he doesn't want to take the time to use HEK, then he won't want to take the time to use UDK.

And you may wish to note that the Covenant Campaign Mod got off to a bad start in the first place here, whereas on Modacity it instantly had constructive criticism.

Additionally, Marcus's comment on that tm_updates telling him we were nice gave me the realisation that he was faking the whole thread. Nobody in their right mind would actually care about what tm_updates says. Ridiculous. However, I had no evidence, so I simply allowed the thread to continue, as I'm not paranoid enough to randomly accuse.

So, though I do agree that Modacity's maturity exceeds that of most of halomaps's members;

I disagree with both your motives and your planning. This was not a fair test and I have based the above conclusion on previous knowledge from before the test. If you wish to try to create a fair test some time, I'd be happy to comply. :)
Edited by Jaz on Dec 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM