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 Spree10 Joined: Sep 21, 2011 
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Posted: Sep 21, 2011 04:50 AM
Msg. 1 of 20
Hey, im making a map and ive been struggling to fix the errors. the error is..
C:\Program Files\Halo Stuff>tool2 structure levels\X63Z X63Z Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map' building intermediate geometry... building collision geometry... reducing collision geometry... building collision bsp... ### ERROR couldn't build bsp because of overlapping surfaces (orange). ### ERROR couldn't build bsp2d. ### ERROR couldn't build leaf. ### ERROR failed to import collision bsp. (im using the new tool) What can i do to fix this or can someone fix it for me :) Thanks |
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Maniac1000 -Helpful Poster- Joined: Feb 24, 2007 
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Posted: Sep 21, 2011 09:57 AM
Msg. 2 of 20
import nameoflevel.wrl
look for and fix the orange marked parts. |
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XlzQwerty1 Joined: Aug 6, 2009 
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Posted: Sep 21, 2011 04:14 PM
Msg. 3 of 20
what is the new tool that you are talking about? Tool2?
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SlappyThePirate Joined: Aug 24, 2009 
You are irritating, I'll release nothing |
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 04:36 PM
Msg. 4 of 20
Perhaps the new tool that 'lets' you use bad geometry.
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Spree10 Joined: Sep 21, 2011
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Posted: Sep 21, 2011 05:28 PM
Msg. 5 of 20
Tool link: http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=38668
The tool let's you have errors, without this tool I have like 50 errors (orange) I have imported the wrl file and it just shows errors outside of the map. |
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SlappyThePirate Joined: Aug 24, 2009
You are irritating, I'll release nothing |
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 09:44 PM
Msg. 6 of 20
Quote: --- Original message by: Spree10 You should fix those errors. You have overlapping surfaces, in editable mesh find the faces that overlap each other and delete them/make new ones that don't overlap.Tool link: http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=38668 The tool let's you have errors, without this tool I have like 50 errors (orange) I have imported the wrl file and it just shows errors outside of the map. |
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Spree10 Joined: Sep 21, 2011
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Posted: Sep 22, 2011 02:00 AM
Msg. 7 of 20
Trust me, i've tried but I still can't manage to find then. Also when I use chimp to find errors it shows a random plane that's not even on my map.
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Spartan314 Joined: Aug 21, 2010 
Former biped rigger & FP animator |
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 02:50 AM
Msg. 8 of 20
If it's not a part of your map, and you don't need it, delete it.
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Spree10 Joined: Sep 21, 2011
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Posted: Sep 22, 2011 08:08 AM
Msg. 9 of 20
That's the thing, nothing's there! But somehow there's like 3 errors...
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CAG Gonzo Joined: Apr 2, 2009 
Retreat? Hell! We just got here! |
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 11:02 AM
Msg. 10 of 20
Hey...this looks familiar. Most of my errors did correspond to geometry, but every now and then I did encounter errors that clearly were just sitting there. Oh yeah, all the 'hacked' tools I used still found errors, despite the fact that they supposedly tolerate errors. Long story short? If you can endure getting raked across miles of coals, you can overcome this with a small victory such as getting it into Max so you can use Blitzkrieg (people tell me it should work, but Blitzkrieg hates me or something).
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Spartan314 Joined: Aug 21, 2010
Former biped rigger & FP animator |
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 03:59 PM
Msg. 11 of 20
I suggest using the most reliable... regular tool?
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Spree10 Joined: Sep 21, 2011
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Posted: Sep 23, 2011 04:19 AM
Msg. 12 of 20
with normal tool i get this:
C:\Program Files\Halo Stuff>tool structure levels\X63Z X63Z Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map' building intermediate geometry... building collision geometry... ### ERROR couldn't update edge #14 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #181 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #181 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #402 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #245 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #404 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #410 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #249 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #454 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #554 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #640 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #688 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #704 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #704 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #705 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #593 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #590 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #813 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #814 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #774 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #821 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #657 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #756 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1016 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #453 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #383 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #255 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #241 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1020 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #775 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #775 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1020 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #930 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1021 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #934 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1021 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1013 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #767 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1013 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #767 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #819 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1030 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1030 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #688 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1029 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #909 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1029 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #815 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1023 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #815 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1033 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1033 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1043 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #381 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #21 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #205 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #382 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1048 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #240 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1050 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #419 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #18 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1052 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #538 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #267 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1053 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #538 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #21 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #539 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #984 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1015 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #984 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1016 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1078 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #987 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #688 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #688 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #987 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #454 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1014 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #982 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1014 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #982 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #985 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1078 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1080 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1022 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1044 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1083 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1044 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #246 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #983 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1042 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #689 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1047 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #539 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #252 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1046 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1042 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1083 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1084 (red). ### ERROR couldn't update edge #1076 (red). ### ERROR failed to build collision geometry. ### ERROR failed to import collision bsp. :( its not even a complicated level. |
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afD2345 Joined: Apr 2, 2011 
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Posted: Sep 23, 2011 12:21 PM
Msg. 13 of 20
try this: convert to editable mesh and go to smoothing groups press "clear all" and then press "auto smooth" and weld
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SlappyThePirate Joined: Aug 24, 2009
You are irritating, I'll release nothing |
Posted: Sep 23, 2011 05:07 PM
Msg. 14 of 20
No, no... listen to me. The errors say update edge errors, you need to fix the update edge errors.
 Maybe three faces are hitting the same edge for your skybox. The whole map, including the skybox, should be like the inside of a balloon: just one big surface, with no 'pockets' or 'holes'. |
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Spree10 Joined: Sep 21, 2011
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Posted: Sep 24, 2011 12:36 AM
Msg. 15 of 20
Gah! i have tried so hard to fix it but still the same thing :( is there anyone who is willing to fix it for me?
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Spree10 Joined: Sep 21, 2011
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Posted: Sep 24, 2011 07:34 AM
Msg. 16 of 20
I just tried that and it says:
Weld No vertices within threshold. |
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Spree10 Joined: Sep 21, 2011
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Posted: Sep 24, 2011 08:50 PM
Msg. 17 of 20
:( just tried it and i still get the no vertices within threshold.
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SlappyThePirate Joined: Aug 24, 2009
You are irritating, I'll release nothing |
Posted: Sep 25, 2011 04:07 PM
Msg. 18 of 20
Quote: --- Original message by: mastur cheef I think I know why that doesn't work... because that's not the solution.Strange. Make sure that the edges pointed out in the wrl are the edges between two and only two faces. Also, post a picture with the wrl imported. |
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Maniac1000 -Helpful Poster- Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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Posted: Sep 25, 2011 06:09 PM
Msg. 19 of 20
Basically you have to import the wrl and locate an edge by selecting by name then pressing z to zoom in on it. Select the edge on the model then select it again and again, you will see where it says which# edge you have selected (on the right) , it will change as you click the edge. Meaning that there are 2 edges in that space. Delete one, if it removes a face then go back and delete the other instead. Usually delete the longest or the most visible edge.
I dunno if that makes sense to you or not, but its a great way of fixing those errors. |
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CAG Gonzo Joined: Apr 2, 2009
Retreat? Hell! We just got here! |
Posted: Sep 25, 2011 06:17 PM
Msg. 20 of 20
Actually, what I've found to be useful is, when you are zoomed in on the error in question, instead of selecting edges, simply determine by which corner (i.e. which edges) the error is and select the faces that contain that edge/corner. Hide them. If you have any edges remaining, then it's most likely your error. Now this doesn't work in every case, and sometimes you may find you have an error that requires you to delete a face.
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