ok well i've been working on this map for 2 straight days (because it's actually turning out really good) and i wanted to see what the community thinks (basically i want feedback). right now im working out the kinks and thinking of anything else that i could add.
Flythrough:
http://www.xfire.com/video/4d3bfa/

Red base:

The bridges are inaccessible btw.





Neutral:


I'm debating whether or not to take the poa out, get a better model or switch it to a frigate.


Blue base:





Edited by darkassassin14 on Sep 5, 2011 at 07:32 AM

Looking alright. Get rid of the tree's on the top area and instead add filer tree's, it will look better and the map wont lag to hell and back becuase of how much scenery there is.

I can't tell if those bridges or whatever are scenery or not (if so you should make them BSP), and do they serve any gameplay purpose?

The POA looks way to tiny in there, if I were you i would just get rid of it and instead add some natural bueaty like some tall cliffs and maybe a waterfall, or pehaps a forerunner wall.

Your grass and dirt in your ground map are very wierd. Make the dirt more brown - as of now its yellow. The grass is also way to green, maybe make it a bit darker.

yea i was gonna get some tree sprites and do that lol.

the bridges are bsp and are inaccessible.

that's why i was thinking of switching it to a frigate but that's a great idea.

and yea i'll fix that.


Anything else you might wanna add?

Yeah, fix the shader on the bridges. If you look the lightmaps all messed up, try checking simple parametrizations at the top of whatever shader its using.

Make it night time, snowy, and have those small covenant illuminative glow stick things? Would look nice... it looks liek a good map for Ghost vehicle combat or even SP

i kinda like it. it reminds me of the old halo maps people use to make

Ok here's an update. i pretty much did everything higuy told me.

Blue side:



Neutral:



Red side:



i'm gonna make the waterfall faster. I also wanna add a forrunner wall but i don't know how to model forrunner things. i was thinking of asking CAG Gonzo for a portion of his lol.
Edited by darkassassin14 on Sep 5, 2011 at 09:05 PM

Work on your colour's for the ground... make the grass colour and sand colour realistic. You never have lain green grass, not natural anyway usually. Mixed tones of green with other colours like brown ect...

and sand isn't a vibrant yellow..

it looks not bad at all, anything that needs done, i think has already be mentioned.
also: remember to credit nexus for the bases in there.

The cliffs are almost perfectly uniform, and the ground looks almost entirely flat.

Make some more interesting natural features, and make the terrain more interesting.

For the most part though it doesn't look all that bad.
Edited by SeL on Sep 5, 2011 at 11:24 PM

hmm i'll try that out for the colors. and i know the ground is flat, that's temporary. I think the cliffs are ok so they'll stay.

i modeled a sentinel wall similar to the one in H2 and i wanna know what you think and maybe some techniques you use:

Doesn't look forerunner but it still looks cool. Really, the map looks enjoyable.

ok so what about this color sand?

Far better imo.

Question: What tagset(s) are you going to be implementing in your map?

You can only see the vehicles, which, as you said, is classic. But he can use a different tagset for weapons, etc.

Looks really good!
One thing i might suggest is to have each of the bases around a different theme, so one is a more lush type area, while the other is more forerunner, with different walls and colours.

You should be able to distinguish what side of the map you're on with out having to turn around.
Use more than just a Blue base sign to distinguish between them.

Yes, use blue and red landing lights (scenery) to help distinguish where each base begins/ends as well.

yep i did that. one question though. How do i add fog to a pool of water?

I still think the sand should be a bit lighter in color, but that's just me, and also maybe make the sand a mixed tone of yellow?

HOW DO I ADD FOG TO A POOL??? I made a nice pool for the waterfall and i added a fog plane right under the water but i don't know what to do now. Oh and how do i 'Mix' tones?

You can just apply a shader called Water!$ to the water plane, and then add a fog pallate (and then apply it), which will in turn give you fog to the water.

ok i got the fog but it extends down too much and covers my entire map. i just want it in the pool how do i do that?

Looks really enjoyable, although the cliffs do look a bit unnatural...maybe jag up the top edges a bit, make it look like it's eroding? Hundreds of years worth of erosion?

EDIT: Are you going to put in Halo 3 weapons?
Edited by Bottletopman on Sep 7, 2011 at 03:35 AM

How do i localize the fog to the water pool? this is what keeps happening:



And update on stuff:







Red base:



Blue base:

If you can't see the water, don't add it?

no i mean the fact that it extends across the whole map. how do i keep the fog in the water only?
you can see what im talking about in the first picture.

He's using 'A hobo' which is a modified version of Sapien.

lol yea.



i did that and that's what happens. i tried making a box but tool wouldn't let it through. i'm just gonna say screw the fog nobody's suppose to be able to get up there anyways.