
Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Jul 30, 2017 08:38 PM
Msg. 10536 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: R93_Sniper Yes. I'd rather just download the maps once and be done with it. It simply alerts you to the updates, there is no requirement that you download anything once you play. In order to get the full expierence.
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Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010
Former biped rigger & FP animator
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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 04:34 AM
Msg. 10537 of 10646
Question: DLMs?
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tillice
Joined: Jan 30, 2016
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 05:10 AM
Msg. 10538 of 10646
directional lightmaps 
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 11:59 AM
Msg. 10539 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 Question: DLMs? Outside of TSC:E and the exterior of Keyes, no. To much work for all our BSPs. Last I counted we have around 60-70 of them.
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Halonimator
Joined: Dec 15, 2014
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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 02:06 PM
Msg. 10540 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 Question: DLMs? Outside of TSC:E and the exterior of Keyes, no. To much work for all our BSPs. Last I counted we have around 60-70 of them. stfu get out. CLASSIC MAPPING TEAM UPDATEMaybe in the next HMU they will show all the stuff I have released for free.
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XxPopeAK49xX
Joined: Jan 31, 2016
It's better being a jerk.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 03:33 PM
Msg. 10541 of 10646
Yeah, but nobody wants free cancer.
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Halonimator
Joined: Dec 15, 2014
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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 04:12 PM
Msg. 10542 of 10646
Thanks, but if you want cancer, just play spv3 or h5g
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Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010
Former biped rigger & FP animator
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Posted: Aug 2, 2017 05:42 AM
Msg. 10543 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 Question: DLMs? Outside of TSC:E and the exterior of Keyes, no. To much work for all our BSPs. Last I counted we have around 60-70 of them. Dang. It really was one of the cooler parts of Open Sauce. Any reason for the exterior of Keyes in particular?
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pablolinkone
Joined: Feb 15, 2015
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Posted: Aug 2, 2017 11:58 AM
Msg. 10544 of 10646
you can't win this fight haloanimator, just let it be Edited by pablolinkone on Aug 2, 2017 at 11:59 AM
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Aug 2, 2017 04:32 PM
Msg. 10545 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 Question: DLMs? Outside of TSC:E and the exterior of Keyes, no. To much work for all our BSPs. Last I counted we have around 60-70 of them. Dang. It really was one of the cooler parts of Open Sauce. Any reason for the exterior of Keyes in particular? It to bad we can't get the normals to show up on BSPs like they did on XBox... even if DLMs are better. For reasons, and we don't know why, the d20 exterior, and control room exterior can't have their lightmaps re run. Tool spits errors about degenerate triangles... even though it makes no sense as to why that could happen. We presume an older version of tool was used, or that when the BSPs were automated to PC format something broke (although using moses converter didnt fix this issue, so this is less likely). For the D20 exterior, it has few light sources and doesn't have any actual transition to another BSP, which made doing DLMs for it a quick and dirty task, compared to other areas of the game. Plus the original lighting there really sucked.
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DeadHamster
Joined: Jun 8, 2014
https://discord.gg/Neu4EJM
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Posted: Aug 2, 2017 11:37 PM
Msg. 10546 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 Question: DLMs? Outside of TSC:E and the exterior of Keyes, no. To much work for all our BSPs. Last I counted we have around 60-70 of them. Original post is 2011. Cant take a few more months to render dlm. 
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MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010
TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com
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Posted: Aug 3, 2017 12:51 AM
Msg. 10547 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: DeadHamsterQuote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 Question: DLMs? Outside of TSC:E and the exterior of Keyes, no. To much work for all our BSPs. Last I counted we have around 60-70 of them. Original post is 2011. Cant take a few more months to render dlm. https://media.giphy.com/media/iSxPmDWr97248/giphy.gif It took a "few months" to render the dlms just for TSC:E iirc Edited by MatthewDratt on Aug 3, 2017 at 12:51 AM
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Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010
Former biped rigger & FP animator
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Posted: Aug 3, 2017 01:29 AM
Msg. 10548 of 10646
By that count... is that an extra year for just DLMs? At least?
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MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010
TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com
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Posted: Aug 3, 2017 01:43 AM
Msg. 10549 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 By that count... is that an extra year for just DLMs? At least? New release in 2020
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MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013
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Posted: Aug 3, 2017 04:59 AM
Msg. 10550 of 10646
All that time rendering DLMs could be used to expose "alt right (+ white supremacist for credibility) trolls". Far more important.
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lolslayer
Joined: Mar 21, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMHbAKvPJkU
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Posted: Aug 3, 2017 05:19 AM
Msg. 10551 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDrattQuote: --- Original message by: DeadHamsterQuote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 Question: DLMs? Outside of TSC:E and the exterior of Keyes, no. To much work for all our BSPs. Last I counted we have around 60-70 of them. Original post is 2011. Cant take a few more months to render dlm. https://media.giphy.com/media/iSxPmDWr97248/giphy.gif It took a "few months" to render the dlms just for TSC:E iirc Edited by MatthewDratt on Aug 3, 2017 at 12:51 AM So THAT explains why I had to wait for that long... Edited by lolslayer on Aug 3, 2017 at 05:21 AM
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Aug 3, 2017 11:40 AM
Msg. 10552 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: MEGA_VKNG All that time rendering DLMs could be used to expose "alt right (+ white supremacist for credibility) trolls". Far more important. Or play with legos.
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xnx
Joined: Feb 12, 2013
h2 marine anims or i detonate the vest
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Posted: Aug 4, 2017 12:51 PM
Msg. 10553 of 10646
The plural of LEGO is LEGO smh.
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Jobalisk
Joined: Feb 8, 2014
The haiku master。
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Posted: Aug 4, 2017 04:59 PM
Msg. 10554 of 10646
wouldn't a solution be to use a BSP exporter on the map to make an OBJ file then import it into 3ds Max and redo from there?
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Aug 4, 2017 05:09 PM
Msg. 10555 of 10646
It doesn't exactly work that well, and even after work is done, there is no guarantee you will be able to get the portals to work as well as it did before. It's like swapping out a solid foundation for a more rickety one, which is why we never edit stock areas. With the exception of the end of AOTCR which was just to cool an area to pass up.
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Halonimator
Joined: Dec 15, 2014
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Posted: Aug 4, 2017 05:45 PM
Msg. 10556 of 10646
Another Classic Mapping Team Update cuz the other CMT stinks!
My Bungie classic non-343i effects are almost as good as me... heres some progress, I don't know why the fist untested pack still isn't in the HMU update. Maybe the other fake CMT did something, I don't care I will upload another but with more FREE and Classic Fixed tags. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udvLZ6M3Gpc&feature=youtu.be Ughh that leader of the other CMT... his a baby who likes to block everyone with better arguments, ideas and everything than him. He knows nothing about TRUE CLASSIC HALO BALANCE AND THINGYS! I don't know why that bigot is the CMT leader, why? Because im a true classic halo fan I will continue my classic mod to show how true a modder can make a classic halo ce experience. damn. -Halonimator the OP team leader of Classic Mapping Team "i need more members!"
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Jobalisk
Joined: Feb 8, 2014
The haiku master。
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Posted: Aug 4, 2017 09:29 PM
Msg. 10557 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 It doesn't exactly work that well, and even after work is done, there is no guarantee you will be able to get the portals to work as well as it did before. It's like swapping out a solid foundation for a more rickety one, which is why we never edit stock areas. With the exception of the end of AOTCR which was just to cool an area to pass up. Yeah, I know what you mean, I never said it was a great idea, but if push really comes to shove it is an option.
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il Duce Primo
Joined: Apr 22, 2007
CMT Team Leader
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Posted: Aug 5, 2017 01:11 PM
Msg. 10558 of 10646
Halonimator you are a fool. You have nothing on the Community Mapping team and we create the best content around.
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Jobalisk
Joined: Feb 8, 2014
The haiku master。
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Posted: Aug 5, 2017 07:09 PM
Msg. 10559 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: il Duce Primo Halonimator you are a fool. You have nothing on the Community Mapping team and we create the best content around. As much as I consider you somewhat of an idiot yourself after that net neutrality debuncle I agree. No one cares about what Halonimator thinks.
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EmmanuelCD
Joined: Jan 7, 2015
End my suffering
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Posted: Aug 5, 2017 07:47 PM
Msg. 10560 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 Question: DLMs? Outside of TSC:E and the exterior of Keyes, no. To much work for all our BSPs. Last I counted we have around 60-70 of them. Dang. It really was one of the cooler parts of Open Sauce. Any reason for the exterior of Keyes in particular? It to bad we can't get the normals to show up on BSPs like they did on XBox... even if DLMs are better. For reasons, and we don't know why, the d20 exterior, and control room exterior can't have their lightmaps re run. Tool spits errors about degenerate triangles... even though it makes no sense as to why that could happen. We presume an older version of tool was used, or that when the BSPs were automated to PC format something broke (although using moses converter didnt fix this issue, so this is less likely). For the D20 exterior, it has few light sources and doesn't have any actual transition to another BSP, which made doing DLMs for it a quick and dirty task, compared to other areas of the game. Plus the original lighting there really sucked. If your using the original bsps, the problem is shaders that use the "simple parametrization" feature, if a uvm is stretched tool cant run lightmaps since it uses the uvm allocated in the bsp rather than building new uvms for the lightmap mesh. To solve this is as easy to unmark that specific feature.
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Aug 6, 2017 12:22 PM
Msg. 10561 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: EmmanuelCDQuote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 Question: DLMs? Outside of TSC:E and the exterior of Keyes, no. To much work for all our BSPs. Last I counted we have around 60-70 of them. Dang. It really was one of the cooler parts of Open Sauce. Any reason for the exterior of Keyes in particular? It to bad we can't get the normals to show up on BSPs like they did on XBox... even if DLMs are better. For reasons, and we don't know why, the d20 exterior, and control room exterior can't have their lightmaps re run. Tool spits errors about degenerate triangles... even though it makes no sense as to why that could happen. We presume an older version of tool was used, or that when the BSPs were automated to PC format something broke (although using moses converter didnt fix this issue, so this is less likely). For the D20 exterior, it has few light sources and doesn't have any actual transition to another BSP, which made doing DLMs for it a quick and dirty task, compared to other areas of the game. Plus the original lighting there really sucked. If your using the original bsps, the problem is shaders that use the "simple parametrization" feature, if a uvm is stretched tool cant run lightmaps since it uses the uvm allocated in the bsp rather than building new uvms for the lightmap mesh. To solve this is as easy to unmark that specific feature. Are you sure about that? Some of the shaders that use it are used in other BSPs, which do have tool compiled lightmaps. Interesting none the less. Quote: --- Original message by: snark567 SPV3 Part 2 looks like a downgrade compared to the visuals of the first part. But at least it's coming out so I have nothing to complain about. In some ways yes, in some ways no. We were right up against the model data limit are various points, and had to work around it for quite a whole until Michelle fixed the issue. That said we also didn't really have that much time to iterate with art assets as before either, given that part 2 was basically done in 8 months (we didn't seriously get back to work until december/january). However, we did look at a lot of our assets and got rid of some compressed textures for things in first person, and those do look noticeably better now than they did before, the shotgun and FP arms for instance. Texture filtering has also been improved, thanks to Chimera. Edited by Masters1337 on Aug 6, 2017 at 12:26 PM
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EmmanuelCD
Joined: Jan 7, 2015
End my suffering
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Posted: Aug 6, 2017 03:25 PM
Msg. 10562 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Are you sure about that? Some of the shaders that use it are used in other BSPs, which do have tool compiled lightmaps. Interesting none the less. Edited by Masters1337 on Aug 6, 2017 at 12:26 PM The problem is not the shader, its the bsp itself that has f@#%k up UVM's. (Specially planar uvm maps) No, im not sure but when Tool displays that error you can bypass it unmarking that option (usually a cliff shader) and continue to run lightmaps. That why I ask if its the original bsp.
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Aug 6, 2017 03:50 PM
Msg. 10563 of 10646
We have DLMs. For it now, but maybe in the future I will re run the standard light maps just to see what happens.
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Jobalisk
Joined: Feb 8, 2014
The haiku master。
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Posted: Aug 6, 2017 04:44 PM
Msg. 10564 of 10646
On a side note, Matt, are you ever planning on finishing Sierra 117 or is it on permanent hiatus these days? Edited by Jobalisk on Aug 6, 2017 at 04:45 PM
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MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010
TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com
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Posted: Aug 6, 2017 05:06 PM
Msg. 10565 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Jobalisk
On a side note, Matt, are you ever planning on finishing Sierra 117 or is it on permanent hiatus these days? Edited by Jobalisk on Aug 6, 2017 at 04:45 PM yes
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lolslayer
Joined: Mar 21, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMHbAKvPJkU
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Posted: Aug 7, 2017 07:34 PM
Msg. 10566 of 10646
At least Matt responded... Edited by lolslayer on Aug 7, 2017 at 07:35 PM
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Oskarmandude
Joined: Mar 16, 2013
Bosnia
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Posted: Aug 13, 2017 04:46 AM
Msg. 10567 of 10646
I'm late for this Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337of course you couldn't be more wrong. There was no disagreement, it was in response to an alt right white supremacist troll. Why don't you post the full context of that? Quote: 19/m/white, Alt-Right for life, Trump Supporter, Devils Advocate, owner of unpopular opinions, known for triggering liberal dumbasses, Xbox GT: Halo Archivist. Edited by Masters1337 on Jul 30, 2017 at 02:28 PM oh no, not the alt right white supremacist trolls! the guys in charlottesville are dangerous, sure, but not this dude crapposting on twitter whose profile picture is a bloody meme. and nothing about the context you gave even suggested that he's a white supremacist, you're just making crap up. idk if it's to make yourself seem like less of a bad guy for the disgusting tweet you made, which didn't come to fruition btw if that was the intended effect. so based on the context, one or a combination of these things are why you think this person should get cancer and his family be met with a crippling healthcare bill: 1. Him being white-If this is your reason, you're just racist on genocidal levels 2. Him being Alt-Right-"Alt-Right" is a really vague term because it literally just means right wingers who oppose the right-wing establishment. If this is why he deserves cancer, then you're just an elitist of establishment politics. But I know that's not the definition of Alt-Right you're using, you're using the umbrella term for young conservatives who have a hard line traditional stance on social values and are opposed to demographic replacement. If these are your reasons, I'm letting you know that having the "wrong opinion" is not a reason for someone to deserve cancer. 3. Him being a Trump supporter-62,984,825 people voted for Trump, and there are many additional Trump supporters abroad. This is a huge death toll that would have catastrophic effects on the world. Again, having the "wrong opinion" is not a reason for someone to deserve cancer. 4. Him being a devil's advocate-Maybe Masterz really hates devil's advocates, idk. I don't know why anyone would hate them, and I know this isn't Masterz' reason for thinking that this guy should get cancer, but I'm still writing this short paragraph to say that it is yet another attribute that is not a reason for someone to deserve cancer. 5. Him being an owner of unpopular opinions-If this is your reason for thinking he deserves cancer then you're actually a psycopath. Not being the lowest common denominator isn't a sin. 6. Him being known for triggering (liberal) dumbasses-Is this really a reason for someone to deserve cancer? Dumbarses will get triggered either way, this kid is just an agent of everyone else's (not Masterz') entertainment. Or does Masterz not like that liberal dumbarses are the dumbarses that this kid triggers? Well, again, having "the wrong opinion" is not a reason for someone to deserve death, Big Brother. 7. His Xbox Live Gamertag being Halo ArchivistI know it's not a good GT, but come on. "you've already proven to not understand the reaction your words have. Don't flush your reputation down the drain further than you have." Haha, Masterz, what is wrong with you? Edited by Oskarmandude on Aug 13, 2017 at 04:50 AM
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MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010
TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com
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Posted: Aug 13, 2017 08:19 AM
Msg. 10568 of 10646
Lol who defends someone that identifies as Alt Right? Like welcome to the eighth grade
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SeL
Joined: Dec 15, 2010
twitter.com/TeamFalldog
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Posted: Aug 13, 2017 10:39 AM
Msg. 10569 of 10646
GIVE US THE TAGS
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DeadHamster
Joined: Jun 8, 2014
https://discord.gg/Neu4EJM
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Posted: Aug 13, 2017 11:34 AM
Msg. 10570 of 10646
lol @ all you liberal crybabies still upset your girl didn't win.
@SeL don't get too excited; the tagset is incredible complex to implement into a mod
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