I think it would be cool to be able to play AI trainers.

Basically what I want to do:

Use all 19 original CE maps and make AI versions of them.

I will have smart spartan AI fighting on them and will try my best to simulate online play.

spartan 0-0 has done this with his trainers.

However I want to make better ones than these, and for every single map.

Trainer8
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=4367

Here's some pics of trainer8

As you see in these two pictures, the AI aren't all that great.






It's cool, but the it isn't that balanced and doesn't feel as authentic as it could.
I want to fix that. (As well as not use the boring h1 tagset).

Create different .actor_varients with different weapons and have a few of them have the ability to get in and use vehicles. This actually isn't that hard, as I've managed to do both (the .actor_varients in a beta of AoTCR, and the AI driving a Spectre in a prototype of Desert_Battleground_V3), so it's going to be easy for you to do as well.

I would help you out more, but I only have a few days off each week to relax and map modding isn't at the top of my list.

Yeah, I was planning on making different actor varients, because it would make the gameplay more interesting, besides, online, people behave differently from other people. There are also different skill levels when playing online. So I will integrate those in too. thanks

Like I said, I'd help out more, but I only have one or two days off per week (work, you know >.>) to relax and have as much fun (and sleep >XD) as I can possibly cram in one day.

On my next off day, however, I'll see if I can slap something together as a beta for you to test and generally have fun with. No promises on how good it'll be - I think I'll just throw it all in a BG map for starters, and you can take it from there.

Well, I have already started battle creek, working on environments first: then ill do my amazing actor and actor_varients. gather weapons and bipeds, reskin vehicles etc.

here's battle creek (done with environment)

















there's me in the corner

Nice jobs man i work on this me to i can help yo for new spartans actors by me ;) I work with them on sali creek, bloodgulch chillout :D

Xd I imporved my lasted spartans actors. I'll just have to change one thing about them ^ ^ And it will be good enough: D
Edited by darksoldier on Feb 12, 2011 at 06:42 AM

Yes this is not good when it's a noob who made the map! But if you're doing well you can make a good mod or you play against the AI smarter. Look at the profile of gamma (gamma knowing that is certainly the best in scripting) and you will be seeing what has been crazy to do with them. And that is specified! this is not for resale to play with other players: D

Yeah here was gamma's one, but I want to make it super good and for all of the maps


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hgIIYUCiNw

My actors are good for combat and firing distance too. He can beat you etc... just they need more life. Just It can be a more intelligent because sometimes they are idiots xd

Old.

http://www.xfire.com/video/18dc06/

Got it set up to use FFA AI for free for all gametypes, and team AI for team gametypes.

o_0 I'm working on that too XD and on the same map: D You still working on it?



New udapte for spartans actors man ;) [WIP] http://fr.xfire.com/video/40f3ca/ :D
Edited by darksoldier on Feb 12, 2011 at 04:26 PM

WOW, that is exactly what I wanted to do, except that the shader_environments like way better, and the BSP is way better too. I think I will use that as a model for what I want to achieve. thanks gamma.

you too dark soldier
Edited by Xoronatus on Feb 12, 2011 at 05:33 PM

No probs man ^^ for the bsp its sali creek ^^ you can donwload this on halomaps. No download sali creek v2 ! download sali creek :D And remake the lightmap i can help fot that ^^

Alright, I guess I might use maps based off of the original h1 maps too as well as the originals. I'll look into sali creek.

Alright, I'm doing Bloodgulch now, these pictures aren't as good as the ones from battle creek, but here they are:













Lumoria sky for the win!!!
Edited by Xoronatus on Feb 12, 2011 at 06:07 PM

Yeah, strategical AI would make the game feel more like you're playing against smart humans. (usually when people play online, there is very little team strategizing


And another update: Derelict (probably could be brighter)















Edited by Xoronatus on Feb 12, 2011 at 07:51 PM

If they could grab flags, that would be even more interesting, since the side-seater can hop out and grab the flag while the other two drive around in circles. And if they die, you end up with the side-seater running all the way back on foot. Or he could get run over by the driver when he comes to pick him up...

Also, is there a specific limit to the amount of AI the engine can handle? We could have 30~ AI in a large map like BG which never seems to have enough players.

Oh and since this is meant for 1 player you can also have automated defense turrets are certain points that can shoot and be destroyed.
Edited by IcePhoenix on Feb 12, 2011 at 07:52 PM

I don't think AI can carry flags, unless directly assigned as a weapon. I might be wrong???

And what if it is a weapon? Can AI even pick up a weapon other than the one in their hands?
And can they score the flag?

If not, make it some variant of Generator Defense instead, and have AI focused on attacking the enemy generator, and have some defense as well.

ffs, Halo:CE and AI = Fail. I'm sick of seeing threads about it.

"OH, LETS MAKE THE 10000000TH AI MODDZZZ AND PLAY OIN OUR OWWN11!!1!"

They are pointless, bored and don't sync.

That's a cool idea, I might consider that. Yeah, that sounds cool. Yeah, because while I want this to simulate, and maybe even surpass online play, I also want it to be unique.


Edited by Xoronatus on Feb 12, 2011 at 08:37 PM

someone made a trail mod just like this but with VERRRYYYY smart ai

go troll somewhere else u nob

Alright here's Danger Canyon, not closed to finished, but it's gonna be snowy

WOW, how did you make them for both FFA and team gametypes?

I doubt it will ever surpass decent online play, but it might be better than playing against nade spammers, aimbotters, and idiots who wave their mouse around in vehicles and somehow get retarded vehicle kills on ill-equipped people after half a minute of fishtailing.
Oh, and team-killers.

Danger canyon and derelict look Nice...

QFT. Doesn't get more annoying than those >.>

Wow nice jobs man i love it ;) For you [DAT]ai_bloodugulch project :D new lightmap, bitmaps etc... but need scenery ^^











A.I. spatans are in this map but they need little improvements ^^
Edited by darksoldier on Feb 13, 2011 at 05:39 AM

Has the fp been redone to look like the spartan?

What I'm thinking about doing, is putting elites in too. But with human weapons (not just plasma rifles). And also I'm thinking about giving the AI names, so when you kill one it will say:

***SERVER***: bsoejd9245 was killed

You know how when you get that awesome headshot with that sniper rifle, and the messages popup on the side. That actually adds to the experience. (It gives you a mini-reward, which is really satisfying).

Alright, I'm gonna make some actor and actor_varients from scratch. Nice bloodgulch, with the fog and cool stuff.
Edited by Xoronatus on Feb 13, 2011 at 01:36 PM

It's funny, because your attempting to "insult" me about modelling a high res mesh, which is what all game companies do in-order to create such realistic and professional looking assets.

Your also joining a wagon of people who use this phrase without knowing what they are talking about, and also the people who seem to think that turbosmooth is a win button.

Your an idiot. Please show more logic in your statements next time as well, because how would I use a tool from a computer which is digital on a physical organic object of which you do not have? Keep trying.



Look up the definition of troll. Which i believe involved following someone on a website just to insult them or throw abuse at them. Which I'm not doing here as I do not know who the OP is.

Fact of the matter is that this is pointless as AI do not sync and are dumb in this old engine. Simple fix is to go to ut3 or something.

Keep trying.

The problem with that is that with most maps, it is pretty much impossible to find any servers online. (Let alone finding a specific gametype that you want to play). Also all of them are laggy. How about playing on Bloodgulch, with plenty. of other players, with custom weapons, bipeds, and textures? (It always sucks when there is a server you want to join, and there's 1 person in it).

Xd what the ... ! :D