gent007 hello again but this time I come to help me with something and searched everywhere as both a protective order to remove a map protector and protect my maps is that there is a map that I liked their tags the phantom h3 aibots well done and halo 3 and want to help me please

Any respectable person is not going to help you.
That is all.
Protection is used for a reason.

Yes, most likely nobody will help you, and i am also not sure if a map un-protector even exists.

They do, but they just don't work exactly the way you might think.

someone will eventually help you. don't listen to anybody who won't, you'll get help.

It doesn't work right if you don't know how to actually use it. Though its not that hard to figure out. So while I hate protectors heres how to work it.
1. Use the programmy on the map
2. Take whatever tag in Hek Plus and check the checkbox next to it
3. Extract
4. Look at the tag
5. Now that you have it put it in bloodgulch
6. Now upload to halomaps
7. Get 20 downloads total
8. Play with 1 friend once and then never play it again

Edited by MatthewDratt on Nov 24, 2010 at 03:49 PM

so you are for having millions of mods on one map and the original WELL THOUGHT OUT maps being devalued by random placement of brand new or overused tags that new users splooge themsselves over?

Sadly this is true.

as if anybody's going to play this guy's map anyway.

no offense to OP. just, nobody plays this game anymore.

There are still very many that play regular halo actually. But yes, this is true relatively. I may end up moving strictly to console sometime. Or I may just get another job to get rid of this free time.

Aren't all the tags worth unprotecting public already? And protection isn't some sort of legal contract which you are morally and legally obliged to follow. It's some way of renaming tags which used to prevent people from extracting them.

Tags yes. I couldn't agree with you more there, but it is the BSP that should always be protected. You can't ruin a tag other than having a more current one replace it, but a map can be ruined with a million different variations.
Also, some people want to just rip a map with a tag or few tags in it to not have to go through the hassle of actually taking the released tags and putting them in their tags folder.

Maybe there is a REASON that those tags are protected...
Maybe you should find something ORIGINAL to create instead of shoving a bunch of tags into a crap ass bloodgulch mod. Dumbass.
Herp Derp
Derpudy Herp Derp.
Edited by MoooseGuy on Nov 20, 2010 at 03:23 AM

sorry guys, but rippers gonna rip. maybe if you didn't bawww over it so much, they wouldn't do it as much.

deal with it.

SCUM!! - Just gtfo, seriously. How about ask the author for their permission to use the tags and show some respect, your the kind of person we don't want in the community. Just frigging ask and use respect then you will also gain respect.

WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU DONE?!?!?!?!?!
Edited by 032 Mendicant Bias on Nov 20, 2010 at 10:15 AM

You forgot 'complain on halomaps forum' for when you don't read the HEK tutorial and don't know how to recursively extract.
Edited by SlappyThePirate on Nov 20, 2010 at 08:31 PM

lol...
This thread went off topic after the first reply

Topic: "Can you tell me how to rip a protected map"
BSP and tag maker's reactions: "**** NO!!!"
Necessary topic change immanent
New topic: "Why people protect their stuff, and if you want it so bad ask the creator"

@032: i thought you said those elites were really old?
Edited by d4rfnader on Nov 20, 2010 at 01:43 PM

yes I know but im saying, eternal lightning is a program that ISN'T for CE, it unprotects the maps for conversion to Halo for the mac.

but not what I'm on this subject is that it is not fair that the creators of new tags new tags we give them as weapons of Halo 3 and the new things that make us no longer use their tags osea this website is to share designs not for our own use that I now also is that if he did that of solitude, having tags firefigth halo 3 phantom and aibots of halo 3 to let us use their tags if we do not want to leave their tags removed at least raise the minimum tags

As one of the actually first users of Eternal Lightening, i can pretty much tell you what it is, what it does and why its here. It was created for a few Halo PC modders to extract tags for protected CE Maps, why? to make epic without learning CE tools. It unprotects maps, there have been a few release version, however this version is a leak. When unprotecting the tags, it gives them their location name, instead of tag name. This is public on some sites (friends of creator and previous users).

Back in spring, i shared this with a few Mangenkyo... within 3 days, most of Salvo had it. I gave it to Mangenkyo on the term that he did not share it with anyone. Of course, my trust with Mangenkyo became lower that it used to be... Blah. Using Eternal lightening to rip tags will ruin whats left of CE. Instead of people releasing, you'll be lucky to see 1 bitmap tag released and this site wont have an upload purpose anymore.

If you are wanting a tag, ask the original creator for it... after all, we don't need anymore H3 Mods from Sphinx or anymore CMT wannabe maps.

Please don't ruin this community out of greed.

True. I will say it sucks in some cases that people protect maps. I just believe in credit where credit is due. I think that if people want to use your tags and they ask you, credit is MUCH more likely to be given to the original creators rather than a person who says, I want to rip this so I can use the tags then their readme just says. "A map I made blah blah blah" with no credit to people who inadvertently aided.

I'd rip just to piss someone like you off and laugh at how much of a dramastorm they'd throw
Edited by HaloIsAHorribleGane on Nov 20, 2010 at 08:29 PM

I agree with El Grunto.
Edited by SlappyThePirate on Nov 20, 2010 at 08:37 PM

Your mature, aren't you.

sorry just giving an honest opinion

your just an ass though and need a life LOL

says the guy bawwwing over people ripping models from a video game

WARNING College computer ethics and copyright knowledgeable person coming through.
While this is all stupid anyway, guess what I found out actually. DENNIS IS WRONG in some ways about content related issues in custom edition.

Just because you put something into a game already created by by a corporation does NOT mean that what you have made is not actually LEGALLY yours. While no one is actually dealing in money here, everything you PUT YOUR TIME INTO is legally yours and credit should be given to the rightful owners. It's just like if you don't cite your work in a essay in college. You most likely WILL be expelled if it is intentional (which ripping is). Does this not make not giving people credit where they are due, as well as ripping map.... dare I say it ILLEGAL?! Well no one has taken a ripper of others tags to jail yet so you may say no, but in actuality, mental and digital knowledge that you created and is stolen by others is TRULY stealing ESPECIALLY when proper methods have been put into place and others have used external programs to crack your security code which is your map protector.

in shorter words.
If I make a bitmap. It is mine legally.
If i make a model. It is mine legally.
If I look off of some source code available to public eye from any cororation, see what they did to make it, and implement the same thing in my own way. It is mine legally.

Where am I going with this?
Quit ripping and quit whining.

Will Dennis most likely remove this post because I am right?
Yes.

If he says I am wrong how long will it take to get PDFs up.
Not long.
I am a cocky college student and like to prove the higher man wrong as often as possible.

Halo is NOT srs business, but people really need to just STFU about ripping and just not rip. I'm sure that a lot of people, if their tag is completed of course, are willing to share with others if you just ask. And people who post stuff on here for showing off, (I'd like to think there are none) please stop posting here. It leads to these kinds of threads.

Did you notice the thing about me being in college, having access to the legal documents, and having read said legal documents because it is one of my classes?

What I said wasn't an opinion.

Ripping software, IS illegal because it undermines code established by the corporation. Just because people don't enforce things does not make it legal.
Edited by eliteslasher on Nov 20, 2010 at 09:41 PM

@Juan
Yes Dennis IS wrong. I mean, he REALLY is. He has said many times that what we make here caries no legal ownership bearing. Therefore, he is wrong. That is all he is really wrong about but still.

That doesn't even make sense. And seriously, this thread is really over anyway since no one is going to give any more help really in this topic than what has been given.

@ assassinchief
This is retarded. Talk to me when your brain decides to function. ***Leaves thread***
Edited by eliteslasher on Nov 20, 2010 at 09:47 PM
Edited by eliteslasher on Nov 20, 2010 at 09:49 PM

yes the model is legally yours, but, the .gbxmodel tag or the .bitmap tag legally belongs to microsoft, and gearbox.

from unprotecting maps to whining about rips to uselessly bantering about opinions with a person who went from crap grammar to super awesome grammar in the space of 5 days.

this forum sucks.

oh:



which most likely includes all maps compiled through tool. so ripping from hce maps breaks the eula.


Edited by AGLion on Nov 20, 2010 at 10:02 PM